PG: Need some Dark(o) Magic (1-2)

[YogurtProducer]

IQ actually looks better than last year. His shot needs to go down though. He has missed everything so far.

He has been getting to the rim a lot more and finishing with contact and also making some great passes out there. There's even some added explosiveness there.

I definitely agree - people are seeing him brick 3's and just being unreasonable with IQ.

15/5/7, and only 2 to's, while shooting 11% on 3's right now. If was even shooting his 3's at an average % (for him - so like 37%) he would be at roughly 20/5/7 on 61TS%. The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like offensively from him right now, and that is despite his best offensive skill being non-existent he has been quite good everywhere else.

It really seems to me like people are not doing much analysis other than "low ppg, bad 3pt%, must be bad" and not actually watching lol. His game inside-the-arc to start the year has been terrific.

I think people are just pissed we have gotten roasted by backup PG's in B2B games and putting all the blame on IQ.

Probably. Critical thinking is not our strong suit here

[YogurtProducer]

It's a good sign but he's a core player who has to shoot well. The same goes for Dick. If neither of them are hitting shots we are losing. RJ and Ingram aren't very reliable there.

The Ingram scoring is cool to watch but I don't think it's effective. He need to make advantage opportunities. I think if he can fit in similar to RJ and find spot up opportunities he'd look better.

We need 3pt volume from Ingram and RJ. Less from Barnes but if he's open that's fine.

Yep, but I am confident IQ is not gonna shoot 11% all year.

[ConSarnit]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch.

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

We lost to the Mavs bench so IDK how either of those things are relevant really. We got crushed by Dlo and Christie

Oh, I don’t know, could it be VanWest commenting that “we got beat by 2 guys more talented than anyone on our roster”. Surely he was talking about DLo and Christie right?

[HeadtopChunes]

immanuel quickley loses another matchup with a minimum PG

[PushDaRock]

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

Well yeah, but it was the bench that did all the damage. They had 63 bench points on 34 FGA.

Not exactly a vote of confidence for our team defense.

Well, you're probably not switching up your coverages to emphasize stopping bench players. But yes, the Team D right now isn't sharp. It doesn't look connected. Similar to last year, we were awful to start but we got better as the year went on. We will have to see how it looks with more reps.

[YogurtProducer]

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

We lost to the Mavs bench so IDK how either of those things are relevant really. We got crushed by Dlo and Christie

Oh, I don’t know, could it be VanWest commenting that “we got beat by 2 guys more talented than anyone on our roster”. Surely he was talking about DLo and Christie right?

yeah, and i said to you IDK why either of your complaints are relevant.

it wasnt AD or Flagg that beat us tonight.

[ConSarnit]

Well yeah, but it was the bench that did all the damage. They had 63 bench points on 34 FGA.

Not exactly a vote of confidence for our team defense.

Well, you're probably not switching up your coverages to emphasize stopping bench players. But yes, the Team D right now isn't sharp. It doesn't look connected. Similar to last year, we were awful to start but we got better as the year went on. We will have to see how it looks with more reps.

It’s not a connection issue. It’s a lack of talent issue. We all knew the only way our defense would hold up is if Barnes and Poeltl carried us. Poeltl is hurt and can’t fully contribute right now.

Poeltl hurt/out = defense bad

Poeltl healthy = defense average

That’s the formula for this team.

[PhilBlackson]

We desperately need a legit backup C (not PF masquerading as one ie/ Mamu or Mogbo, we should’ve at least tried developing Chomche) and a point guard 6’3+ to not get abused defensively (too bad we traded for Thad or we’d probably have Nembhard on our roster right now).

It’s sad irony we paid too much for both of the starters at those positions but especially PG.

[ConSarnit]

We lost to the Mavs bench so IDK how either of those things are relevant really. We got crushed by Dlo and Christie

Oh, I don’t know, could it be VanWest commenting that “we got beat by 2 guys more talented than anyone on our roster”. Surely he was talking about DLo and Christie right?

yeah, and i said to you IDK why either of your complaints are relevant.

it wasnt AD or Flagg that beat us tonight.

AD had 25 points (led the Mavs in scoring) on 79% FG. Just another ho hum 79% shooting night.

[DemHeavyHands]

IQ is a 6th man type player, like he was in New York

Even if he’s hitting 3s, he has like none of the intangibles a guy like Lowry had. He isn’t a starting pg on a legit team

Would like to see shead get more meaningful mins in the 4th with the starters, him and Scottie guarding pick n rolls would cause chaos

IQ actually looks better than last year. His shot needs to go down though. He has missed everything so far.

He has been getting to the rim a lot more and finishing with contact and also making some great passes out there. There's even some added explosiveness there.

I definitely agree - people are seeing him brick 3's and just being unreasonable with IQ.

15/5/7, and only 2 to's, while shooting 11% on 3's right now. If was even shooting his 3's at an average % (for him - so like 37%) he would be at roughly 20/5/7 on 61TS%. The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like offensively from him right now, and that is despite his best offensive skill being non-existent he has been quite good everywhere else.

It really seems to me like people are not doing much analysis other than "low ppg, bad 3pt%, must be bad" and not actually watching lol. His game inside-the-arc to start the year has been terrific.

Now give me some analysis on his defense vs Dlo and Cole Anthony

This team is fine on offense, even with IQ bricking it up. We need STOPS, and our main pg is getting lit up by bench players

[ItsDanger]

This starting lineup costs $156M per year. That's **** disgusting to look at.

[FrozenLeafz]

they've been preaching defence but were still giving up 130pts smh

[PushDaRock]

Not exactly a vote of confidence for our team defense.

Well, you're probably not switching up your coverages to emphasize stopping bench players. But yes, the Team D right now isn't sharp. It doesn't look connected. Similar to last year, we were awful to start but we got better as the year went on. We will have to see how it looks with more reps.

It’s not a connection issue. It’s a lack of talent issue. We all knew the only way our defense would hold up is if Barnes and Poeltl carried us. Poeltl is hurt and can’t fully contribute right now.

Poeltl hurt/out = defense bad

Poeltl healthy = defense average

That’s the formula for this team.

Or it's just a small sample size with not enough data to know for sure

[Purple Fever]

DeAngelo Russell makes 5.5 M... can someone please convince me that Quickley is worth 30 M more than him?

The sad part is that Russell wanted to come play here and would have likely taken a lot less

[YogurtProducer]

IQ actually looks better than last year. His shot needs to go down though. He has missed everything so far.

He has been getting to the rim a lot more and finishing with contact and also making some great passes out there. There's even some added explosiveness there.

I definitely agree - people are seeing him brick 3's and just being unreasonable with IQ.

15/5/7, and only 2 to's, while shooting 11% on 3's right now. If was even shooting his 3's at an average % (for him - so like 37%) he would be at roughly 20/5/7 on 61TS%. The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like offensively from him right now, and that is despite his best offensive skill being non-existent he has been quite good everywhere else.

It really seems to me like people are not doing much analysis other than "low ppg, bad 3pt%, must be bad" and not actually watching lol. His game inside-the-arc to start the year has been terrific.

Now give me some analysis on his defense vs Dlo and Cole Anthony

This team is fine on offense, even with IQ bricking it up. We need STOPS, and our main pg is getting lit up by bench players

Sure, according to NBA.com IQ matched up with Cole Anthony for 2:58, and scored 2 points on 1/2 shooting, and had 2 assist and 1 turnover. From watching all of Anthonys makes it looks like they were on:

Shead (IQ not even on floor)
Sandro (IQ not even on floor)
Shead and Mogbo (IQ not even on floor)
IQ and Sandro (Pnr - real good one by Turner tbh)
Oreb (IQ not even on floor)
Ingram (IQ guarding Rollins)
IQ (but like... a real good reverse finish over the help, sometimes gotta give a guy credit lol)
IQ + Jak (switch)
Ingram + Yak

So like at most we are talking 6 points, and TBH they included some real good plays by Cole.

Unfortunately, no stats for tonight yet, but from the video,

RJ (IQ not even on floor)
IQ (real tough floater - IQ really couldnt have played it better)
Agbaji (IQ not even on floor)
IQ + Agbaji (looks to me like Ochai messed up coverage here as there is no way IQ should have had to fight 2 screens here)
Shead (IQ not even on floor)
IQ (piss poor screen nav)
IQ (good shot by Dlo - zero help from Jak)
RJ? (open C+S)

so like.. at most 8 points but hard to pin those all on IQ

Soooo of Dlo and Anthony IQ was not even on the floor for about half the makes, and was only guarding him for half of the ones he was on the floor.

[YogurtProducer]

Oh, I don’t know, could it be VanWest commenting that “we got beat by 2 guys more talented than anyone on our roster”. Surely he was talking about DLo and Christie right?

yeah, and i said to you IDK why either of your complaints are relevant.

it wasnt AD or Flagg that beat us tonight.

AD had 25 points (led the Mavs in scoring) on 79% FG. Just another ho hum 79% shooting night.

Sure, and was a 0 in the +/- categor. We lost this game when Russell was on the floor vs our bench. We held our own vs AD/Flagg.

[HumbleRen]

This defence is cooked lol. Hope people understand why they wanted Derrick White so badly at the draft lol.

[tdotrep2]

This defence is cooked lol. Hope people understand why they wanted Derrick White so badly at the draft lol.

we need defensive guards around scottie and ingram. teams are getting in the paint at will

[Got Nuffin]

yeah, and i said to you IDK why either of your complaints are relevant.

it wasnt AD or Flagg that beat us tonight.

AD had 25 points (led the Mavs in scoring) on 79% FG. Just another ho hum 79% shooting night.

Sure, and was a 0 in the +/- categor. We lost this game when Russell was on the floor vs our bench. We held our own vs AD/Flagg.

I really thought our bench unit would be nice this season, but it's not looking good.

- Gradey is loveable but inconsistent and this needs to be a break out year for him, that's all i'll say.
- Shead is just..nothing.. i don't know. Can we try Hepburn?
- CMB let's face it he looked terrible out there. Like a deer in headlights. The only way is up.
- Agbaji looks irrelevant out there
- Walter? Is he injured?

I would love to try moving RJ Barrett to the bench as an experiment to let him feast on 2nd units and give us some identity there, because you know he will be aggressive offensively attacking the rim regardless and he has been solid this season. I know it will sound like demotion for him, but he would probably end up with higher usg% and our bench play is killing us.

Let Walter slide into the starting line up in a 3&D role. RJ Barrett can be our flamethrower off the bench.

[dballislife]

my gawd poeltl with 6, 5, and another 5 fouls first 3 games playing 22 min of action...hes either been fouling, getting blown by, or scored on...honestly if he just played like last season we might have won these games