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ash_k wrote:Boogie! wrote:ash_k wrote:No doubt that we should be 25-11 at the very worst now; meaning 2nd seed in the East. Darko is being carried by the amount of talent. From one game to the other we just do not know what to expect under that coach.
What could Darko do better other than not playing scrubs?
Darko has never demonstrated the ability to maximize the talent of any player.
YogurtProducer wrote:ash_k wrote:Boogie! wrote:
What could Darko do better other than not playing scrubs?
Darko has never demonstrated the ability to maximize the talent of any player.
I guess if you ignore the guys having their best years under Darko you could believe that.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
JCP11 wrote:ash_k wrote:No doubt that we should be 25-11 at the very worst now; meaning 2nd seed in the East. Darko is being carried by the amount of talent. From one game to the other we just do not know what to expect under that coach.
I'm not so sure about that. The lineup construction is clearly flawed, they need a big C that does the dirty work and a PG that can organize the offense and go downhill. When they miss one of these elements or both (Poeltl injured and IQ struggling) they can lose to anyone.
Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
Syd-TK3 wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:
The Hawks broadcast was raving about the fan noise, "said it was non stop loud in there"
People seem to think TV broadcasts should drown out commentary and just be crowd noise lol
To be fair Raptors broadcast is notorious for lowering the crowd way more than basically every other team
HiJiNX wrote:Ngl I think I could pull Savanna Hamilton.
ash_k wrote:JCP11 wrote:ash_k wrote:No doubt that we should be 25-11 at the very worst now; meaning 2nd seed in the East. Darko is being carried by the amount of talent. From one game to the other we just do not know what to expect under that coach.
I'm not so sure about that. The lineup construction is clearly flawed, they need a big C that does the dirty work and a PG that can organize the offense and go downhill. When they miss one of these elements or both (Poeltl injured and IQ struggling) they can lose to anyone.
not sure about what ? YOu did watch the games though right? despite all the injuries.. The 2 losses against Charlotte, the inexplicable(coaching cant prepare the team properly) no-shows against BKN and Washington..
Boogie! wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:ash_k wrote:Darko has never demonstrated the ability to maximize the talent of any player.
I guess if you ignore the guys having their best years under Darko you could believe that.
There’s really only a couple of things that annoy me about Darko… number 1 is not using quickley as a scorer and instead trying to expect him to facilitate the offense/“develop” him into a traditional pg. and 2, playing guys like gradey dick undeservedly. Now it’s arguable this decision is coming from the top, which in that case is a bobby webster problem. Other than that, I don’t really have any other issues.
YogurtProducer wrote:Boogie! wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:I guess if you ignore the guys having their best years under Darko you could believe that.
There’s really only a couple of things that annoy me about Darko… number 1 is not using quickley as a scorer and instead trying to expect him to facilitate the offense/“develop” him into a traditional pg. and 2, playing guys like gradey dick undeservedly. Now it’s arguable this decision is coming from the top, which in that case is a bobby webster problem. Other than that, I don’t really have any other issues.
Regarding IQ the fact of the matter is he’s kind of our best choice to facilitate the offence. Barnes isn’t that guy consistently as he gets way to erratic to often.
I think IQ has ran our offence fairly well. Keeps care of the ball, and the ball tends to get to the right places typically. I do wish we could get his 3 point volume up but on the other hand this is such an extended poor shooting stretch for him I don’t know what the answer is there.
He is getting 5.2 wide open shots a night and is only shooting 34% on them. He is due for a huge 2nd half of the year if he gets those numbers back up to his career figures
YogurtProducer wrote:ash_k wrote:Boogie! wrote:
What could Darko do better other than not playing scrubs?
Darko has never demonstrated the ability to maximize the talent of any player.
I guess if you ignore the guys having their best years under Darko you could believe that.
links135 wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:ash_k wrote:Darko has never demonstrated the ability to maximize the talent of any player.
I guess if you ignore the guys having their best years under Darko you could believe that.
barnes literally turns into a dpoy candidate, 4th best defense, taking away Garrett makes us tied for youngest team in the league
It's too bad for Jaks back issues, he'd still miss some games for sure, otherwise yeah we could easily be 25-11.
That and we had like 5 back to backs in a month at the same time. So while it's a bit up and down in terms of performance or match up, man imagine being the Cavs with their 60 whatever wins last year and barely out of the play in.
We ain't in a bad spot, still took 5 years of retooling before we won it before. When you factor everything in, it's fine.
YogurtProducer wrote:Boogie! wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:I guess if you ignore the guys having their best years under Darko you could believe that.
There’s really only a couple of things that annoy me about Darko… number 1 is not using quickley as a scorer and instead trying to expect him to facilitate the offense/“develop” him into a traditional pg. and 2, playing guys like gradey dick undeservedly. Now it’s arguable this decision is coming from the top, which in that case is a bobby webster problem. Other than that, I don’t really have any other issues.
Regarding IQ the fact of the matter is he’s kind of our best choice to facilitate the offence. Barnes isn’t that guy consistently as he gets way to erratic to often.
I think IQ has ran our offence fairly well. Keeps care of the ball, and the ball tends to get to the right places typically. I do wish we could get his 3 point volume up but on the other hand this is such an extended poor shooting stretch for him I don’t know what the answer is there.
He is getting 5.2 wide open shots a night and is only shooting 34% on them. He is due for a huge 2nd half of the year if he gets those numbers back up to his career figures
Tripod wrote:You may not believe it, but Gradey came in and played great defensively. They were going after him but he stood his ground on most possessions.
Godaddycurse wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Boogie! wrote:
There’s really only a couple of things that annoy me about Darko… number 1 is not using quickley as a scorer and instead trying to expect him to facilitate the offense/“develop” him into a traditional pg. and 2, playing guys like gradey dick undeservedly. Now it’s arguable this decision is coming from the top, which in that case is a bobby webster problem. Other than that, I don’t really have any other issues.
Regarding IQ the fact of the matter is he’s kind of our best choice to facilitate the offence. Barnes isn’t that guy consistently as he gets way to erratic to often.
I think IQ has ran our offence fairly well. Keeps care of the ball, and the ball tends to get to the right places typically. I do wish we could get his 3 point volume up but on the other hand this is such an extended poor shooting stretch for him I don’t know what the answer is there.
He is getting 5.2 wide open shots a night and is only shooting 34% on them. He is due for a huge 2nd half of the year if he gets those numbers back up to his career figures
IQ has nobody to set a proper screen for him (when poeltl is out), he thrived on those pull up 3s when defenders go under the screen.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Brinbe wrote:They've clearly found something good with this Ingram/Barnes/Barrett grouping and it's clear how important RJ is to the alchemy of this team. I think that's clearly someone they need to be locking up long-term and the FO's next roster-building goal should be figuring out who to really surround them with going forward as they seek to take the next step to real contendership.
I know people might hate it, but if the Bucks and Giannis get a divorce then Turner would still potentially be a very good complementary piece as a rim defending/stretch big but making that work salary wise is pretty much impossible unless we're sending someone important out. And as far IQ goes, it's frustrating because he should be taking better advantage of this situation as the 4th option. All he has to do is hit his 3s. That they're still winning despite Quick not being at his best is a good sign though.
And while I don't know if Mamu will ultimately be the best or most ideal choice as the primary starting big but as an off-the-bench option he's been just about perfect. Shead's also been very good as the backup point. Everything else is in flux.
Right now they're looking like a 2nd round playoff team at best, which isn't terrible. But it's clear they'll have to figure out the big situation and improve on their guards if they wanna really compete with the best.
Boogie! wrote::cry:Godaddycurse wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Regarding IQ the fact of the matter is he’s kind of our best choice to facilitate the offence. Barnes isn’t that guy consistently as he gets way to erratic to often.
I think IQ has ran our offence fairly well. Keeps care of the ball, and the ball tends to get to the right places typically. I do wish we could get his 3 point volume up but on the other hand this is such an extended poor shooting stretch for him I don’t know what the answer is there.
He is getting 5.2 wide open shots a night and is only shooting 34% on them. He is due for a huge 2nd half of the year if he gets those numbers back up to his career figures
IQ has nobody to set a proper screen for him (when poeltl is out), he thrived on those pull up 3s when defenders go under the screen.
He’s had plenty of good looks without poeltl. He’s just in his head/in a slump.
It’s so odd how on a team starved for shooting, they turn on their most proven and consistent shooter because he’s in a slump. Since a rookie his percentages from 3 are as follows: 39%, 34%, 40%, 37% and this year currently 36%…
That doesn’t take into account the types of shots he takes either. He’s not just a stand in the corner catch and shoot guy. He takes shots off the dribble, relocate catch and shoot on the move as well as being a stationary catch and shoot guy. He makes the difficult 3s, he’s not just a Jamison battle shooter. And that’s not a knock on battle.
Boogie! wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:Boogie! wrote:Just upgrade the bench scoring and I’ll be happy. Bring in a proven wing that can make open 3s and just not be completely useless. Who is realistically attainable?
Perhaps a BATTLE tested player?
(See what I did there)
A wing off the bench that can consistently hit open 3s changes a lot for this team.
I’ve been a battle supporter since last season. That being said, it’s obvious that for whatever reason he’s lower on the depth chart than everyone else. So as much as we hoot and holler about playing him he’s not gonna play over dick and company. If that’s the case, Webster needs to make a move for a proven guy that’s objectively better than what we have now in the eyes of Darko.
ash_k wrote:No doubt that we should be 25-11 at the very worst now; meaning 2nd seed in the East. Darko is being carried by the amount of talent. From one game to the other we just do not know what to expect under that coach.
TorontoBaller wrote:lobosloboslobos wrote:bballsparkin wrote:It would be nice if they talked about the game more. Did you hear it was someone's birthday? What about the other? Well birthday weekend anyway. It would be nice if just once while I'm in the kitchen they would describe the game so I had an idea what's actually happening. Anyway, fun game.
i haven't listened to those guys in years for that reason. if you listen to other broadcasts you find that none of them talk about their breakfast and old hit songs from their youth and their socks and that time someone picked his nose like they do. can't take it.
great win tho
I’ve been saying this for years!
Why do we have announcers?
I’d like an option where it’s just bball without 2 guys chirpin the whole damn time. It’s insulting, infuriating and unnecessary.
Kingsway_fan wrote:TorontoBaller wrote:lobosloboslobos wrote:
i haven't listened to those guys in years for that reason. if you listen to other broadcasts you find that none of them talk about their breakfast and old hit songs from their youth and their socks and that time someone picked his nose like they do. can't take it.
great win tho
I’ve been saying this for years!
Why do we have announcers?
I’d like an option where it’s just bball without 2 guys chirpin the whole damn time. It’s insulting, infuriating and unnecessary.
They are horrible.