Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired

[Suga2Panda]

Someone please make me a BC Sig with the caption "Doing Everything, Accomplishing Nothing"

[hillbilly hare]

Does anyone think it'll be Clownangelo instead of Casey who gets tossed first?

I mean, the assembled players are a sorry bunch and that's on Lyin' Bryan. But under pressure from the guys who pay him, the Clown can always lay the blame on Casey, maybe even point to the unfortunate injury to his "star FA signing".

What do you think? Casey first? Any bets?

[BBS22]

" As a teenager, he starred on his high school basketball team. In 1983, he was named the school’s best-dressed male, the beginning of a lifelong reputation as a dandy. He also drove his own Ford pickup, a hulking thing with big wheels that his mother hated. The licence plate read “SUNS SON.”


"Six years with the Raptors has been hard on Colangelo. His hair has thinned and greyed; his face is creased with wrinkles. He no longer enjoys the sports media’s scrutiny. In the midst of the 2010–2011 season, by far the Raptors’ worst since Colangelo arrived in Toronto, he had to renegotiate his contract. He reportedly had the nerve to ask for another five-year contract, at the same $4-million annual salary. MLSE agreed to renew for just two more years."

Amazing article.
http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/from-print-edition-informer/2012/11/16/dunkonomics-bryan-colangelo-raptors/#more-176114

[Dr Positivity]

If BC is going to panic fire Casey, the opportune time is tomorrow. 3 of the next 4 days are off before a west coast road trip next week, and the game we play is a home game against Phoenix, a game we should win. Firing Casey tomorrow gives the interm some practice days before the road trip and a possible win his first game which would make the firing look like the right decision (for like 2 days until DEN rips our a**holes apart, but shh)

[J Dilla]

If Casey gets fired first, Mlse will fire Bryan Colangelo the next day. 4 coaches in how long exactly? Unless if its SVG of course, which is the Lenny Wilkins type of hiring. Svg made it clear that he would rather stay in Florida close to his daughter. I just dont see him choosing Toronto but god he would be an excellent hire.

The only thing is both of these coaches (SVG , Casey) will require a team with good vets. I don't know about SVGs rook development record, but having coached Shaq, Dwight, he could be the perfect coach for Choonas. I don't want to overrate him though.

Even if BC can convince a really good coach to come here, he still needs to gtfo. The Landry Fields signing did it for me. There better be a book out about this signing, really what the **** happened?

[BBS22]

If BC is going to panic fire Casey, the opportune time is tomorrow. 3 of the next 4 days are off before a west coast road trip next week, and the game we play is a home game against Phoenix, a game we should win. Firing Casey tomorrow gives the interm some practice days before the road trip and a possible win his first game which would make the firing look like the right decision (for like 2 days until DEN rips our a**holes apart, but shh)

I doubt BC has the authority to fire Casey since he just picked up his option and will have him on the books another year. It would be cheaper for MLSE to get rid of BC before paying 2 coaches ... again (Triano + Smitch)

Edit: Hell didn't the Maple Leafs extend, fire and hire a brand new coach last season?

[fatal9]

Trades draft picks to make "win now" moves for the playoffs aaaaaaaaaaand.....second worst record in the league.

[Scase]

" As a teenager, he starred on his high school basketball team. In 1983, he was named the school’s best-dressed male, the beginning of a lifelong reputation as a dandy. He also drove his own Ford pickup, a hulking thing with big wheels that his mother hated. The licence plate read “SUNS SON.”


"Six years with the Raptors has been hard on Colangelo. His hair has thinned and greyed; his face is creased with wrinkles. He no longer enjoys the sports media’s scrutiny. In the midst of the 2010–2011 season, by far the Raptors’ worst since Colangelo arrived in Toronto, he had to renegotiate his contract. He reportedly had the nerve to ask for another five-year contract, at the same $4-million annual salary. MLSE agreed to renew for just two more years."

Amazing article.
http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/from-print-edition-informer/2012/11/16/dunkonomics-bryan-colangelo-raptors/#more-176114

This right here is why I think he won't be lasting much longer. MLSE had a product to sell, Rogers and Bell have a product and CHANNELS to sell. With the Raps flying they stand to make more money than MLSE would have period.

Advertisers don’t buy space on shows no one watches, which is especially a concern when you’re the Raptors and you’re owned by Rogers and Bell. In the modern NBA, having stars, preferably stars who get a kick out of performing windmill dunks and 360 layups, is just as important for selling as it is for winning.

And this pretty much sums up his entire tenure here. Get criticism/question you don't like/can't answer? Ignore it.

Get one you don't like but CAN "answer" it, spin some BS and never really answer it or be accountable for your mess.

At the start of the pre-season, I asked Colangelo where he put the team’s odds of making the playoffs. “Next question” was his exasperated response. I asked him what, if anything, he’d change if he could start over as Raptors GM. He didn’t want to answer that, either, and instead offered his version of basketball philosophy: “The beauty of my job is that you can’t look back and say I would do this differently,” he said. “In our business, you can’t be afraid. And I’ve never been afraid.”

God I'll be so glad when this joke is gone.

[daleface]

Does anyone think it'll be Clownangelo instead of Casey who gets tossed first?

I mean, the assembled players are a sorry bunch and that's on Lyin' Bryan. But under pressure from the guys who pay him, the Clown can always lay the blame on Casey, maybe even point to the unfortunate injury to his "star FA signing".

What do you think? Casey first? Any bets?

My guess is BC.

Though it really depends on how the media views it. If they focus on Casey, you can bet BC will use him as the scapegoat. But as it is, everyone pretty much knows that this team is horrible and that's on him. BC firing Casey now would look bad on him cause we all know coaching isn't the only problem with this team. BC is like the mad king that people in Game of Thrones talk about. He's completely insane.

It's up to ownership to make the next move but since they don't even remotely pay any attention to this team, who knows.

Either way, I got to believe BC's firing is inevitable cause there's really no way he can improve this crappy team. No cap, no draft pick and no one who we don't want on this team has any value in a trade.

[hillbilly hare]

Does anyone think it'll be Clownangelo instead of Casey who gets tossed first?

I mean, the assembled players are a sorry bunch and that's on Lyin' Bryan. But under pressure from the guys who pay him, the Clown can always lay the blame on Casey, maybe even point to the unfortunate injury to his "star FA signing".

What do you think? Casey first? Any bets?

My guess is BC.

Though it really depends on how the media views it. If they focus on Casey, you can bet BC will use him as the scapegoat. But as it is, everyone pretty much knows that this team is horrible and that's on him. BC firing Casey now would look bad on him cause we all know coaching isn't the only problem with this team. BC is like the mad king that people in Game of Thrones talk about. He's completely insane.

It's up to ownership to make the next move but since they don't even remotely pay any attention to this team, who knows.

Either way, I got to believe BC's firing is inevitable cause there's really no way he can improve this crappy team. No cap, no draft pick and no one who we don't want on this team has any value in a trade.

Improve the team ASAP might not be his focus. Rather, make a "splash" with a treadmill trade involving a couple of well-known names, e.g. Bargnani and ???. That's divert attention for 10 games or so, might boost ratings and ticket sales, and might save his job even if the team continues to be a joke. That's the pessimistic scenario. The optimistic one is that both Andrea and Bryan set sail into the sunset and we go back to yet ANOTHER wait till next year season.

[Purple+Black]

Officially on the fire B.C. Bandwagon

[KnickerBonkerz]

Vince Carter and Chris Bosh were charismatic—they howled after making tough buckets and they dunked hard and often. You could put them on billboards. By contrast, Bargnani, even in the heat of a game, often looks like he just woke up from a nap. His most prominent endorsement deal is with Primo pasta, which produced a cringe-inducingly low-budget commercial starring a gawky, bearded Bargnani eating spaghetti in his Raptors uniform.

lol

[Chaos Engine]

" As a teenager, he starred on his high school basketball team. In 1983, he was named the school’s best-dressed male, the beginning of a lifelong reputation as a dandy. He also drove his own Ford pickup, a hulking thing with big wheels that his mother hated. The licence plate read “SUNS SON.”


"Six years with the Raptors has been hard on Colangelo. His hair has thinned and greyed; his face is creased with wrinkles. He no longer enjoys the sports media’s scrutiny. In the midst of the 2010–2011 season, by far the Raptors’ worst since Colangelo arrived in Toronto, he had to renegotiate his contract. He reportedly had the nerve to ask for another five-year contract, at the same $4-million annual salary. MLSE agreed to renew for just two more years."

Amazing article.
http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/from-print-edition-informer/2012/11/16/dunkonomics-bryan-colangelo-raptors/#more-176114

Vince Carter and Chris Bosh were charismatic—they howled after making tough buckets and they dunked hard and often. You could put them on billboards. By contrast, Bargnani, even in the heat of a game, often looks like he just woke up from a nap. His most prominent endorsement deal is with Primo pasta, which produced a cringe-inducingly low-budget commercial starring a gawky, bearded Bargnani eating spaghetti in his Raptors uniform.

[suntzuballin]

8-9 thats when sam mitchell got canned if there is nothing done in 17 games that better record then right now so in a couple of games from now somethings should happen....

[Ukulele]

Fire Colangelo and all the euros that he brings to our team (also Valanciunas)!

[Edumacated]

Does anyone think it'll be Clownangelo instead of Casey who gets tossed first?

I mean, the assembled players are a sorry bunch and that's on Lyin' Bryan. But under pressure from the guys who pay him, the Clown can always lay the blame on Casey, maybe even point to the unfortunate injury to his "star FA signing".

What do you think? Casey first? Any bets?

My guess is BC.

Though it really depends on how the media views it. If they focus on Casey, you can bet BC will use him as the scapegoat. But as it is, everyone pretty much knows that this team is horrible and that's on him. BC firing Casey now would look bad on him cause we all know coaching isn't the only problem with this team. BC is like the mad king that people in Game of Thrones talk about. He's completely insane.

It's up to ownership to make the next move but since they don't even remotely pay any attention to this team, who knows.

Either way, I got to believe BC's firing is inevitable cause there's really no way he can improve this crappy team. No cap, no draft pick and no one who we don't want on this team has any value in a trade.

I think BC is done as well. Firing Casey would just be another example of his ineptitude as GM and give the new owners more reason to fire him. I'm not going to lump the new MLSE owners with the past owners and call Rogers/Bell idiots when they haven't done anything yet to set the franchise back. I'm interested in seeing how the new owners deal with this situation. If they fire BC then we can breathe a little easier and hope that they can make the right decisions to turn this franchise around.

[mirrornick]

Weird, BC has been very quiet in the past few weeks.. Or maybe it's just me.

[daleface]

I think BC is done as well. Firing Casey would just be another example of his ineptitude as GM and give the new owners more reason to fire him. I'm not going to lump the new MLSE owners with the past owners and call Rogers/Bell idiots when they haven't done anything yet to set the franchise back. I'm interested in seeing how the new owners deal with this situation. If they fire BC then we can breathe a little easier and hope that they can make the right decisions to turn this franchise around.

Yeah your right. I take that back, I forgot that Rogers/Bell owns Raptors now.

Hopefully when BC is fired and they hire a new GM, they give him complete control of management. Let him pick his own scouting staff, advisor, etc. Otherwise, it would seem like a lame duck type GM being brought in.

Improve the team ASAP might not be his focus. Rather, make a "splash" with a treadmill trade involving a couple of well-known names, e.g. Bargnani and ???. That's divert attention for 10 games or so, might boost ratings and ticket sales, and might save his job even if the team continues to be a joke. That's the pessimistic scenario. The optimistic one is that both Andrea and Bryan set sail into the sunset and we go back to yet ANOTHER wait till next year season.

That's a possibility that could definitely happen. Though I just can't see BC trading Bargs. I think BC knows that by trading Bargs that it'll show to everyone that he was wrong in drafting him 1st overall and having him as the next franchise player after Bosh left. It's come to the point where I think his ego and being stubborn, that he won't admit being wrong. The next GM will be the one to get rid of Bargs.

[daleface]

It would be cool to hear what offers BC was getting for Bargs when he was at the peak of his trading stock.

Same with Jose, when he had alot of people thinking he was a top 10 point guard in the league.

[Anatomize]

The better thread title would be: Why isn't Bryan Colangelo being fired?