Official Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[anon2222]

So maybe some of you remember I had posted a few weeks ago about my father who contracted Covid-19 and he spent 15 weeks on a ventilator but finally on Friday he was able to go home! He even made the local news lol (even though it's a small Caribbean island but they should be proud!). He is one of the longest patients in the world to have been on a ventilator with this coronavirus. Hopefully some good news that we are making some medical progress in the treatment of this disgusting virus:

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[NinjaBro]

Congrats man, I can't imagine a happier feeling

[Pointgod]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

[junot111]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

Were they in the same position? I haven't looked at the data but anecdotally I remember Italy being a complete hotbed for Corona, as bad or worse than China. Now that I think about it, that may have been 4 months ago. The US really blew a 3-1 lead on this pandemic.

[GordanFreeman]

So maybe some of you remember I had posted a few weeks ago about my father who contracted Covid-19 and he spent 15 weeks on a ventilator but finally on Friday he was able to go home! He even made the local news lol (even though it's a small Caribbean island but they should be proud!). He is one of the longest patients in the world to have been on a ventilator with this coronavirus. Hopefully some good news that we are making some medical progress in the treatment of this disgusting virus:

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I'm happy for you brother. God bless your pops.

[MikeMars]

Thats good news, seeing the old overcome covid makes me feel better, im more likely as a healthy male to get raped than an old man is to die from covid, cool, wait....

[lolwut]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

Were they in the same position? I haven't looked at the data but anecdotally I remember Italy being a complete hotbed for Corona, as bad or worse than China. Now that I think about it, that may have been 4 months ago. The US really blew a 3-1 lead on this pandemic.

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[MikeMars]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

Were they in the same position? I haven't looked at the data but anecdotally I remember Italy being a complete hotbed for Corona, as bad or worse than China. Now that I think about it, that may have been 4 months ago. The US really blew a 3-1 lead on this pandemic.

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Could that be a result of more testing? Either way seems normal, once the virus takes hold it'll run its coarse, the good news is the mortality rate is going down, its actually less then the flu now i heard, but i know i know you want this to be the worst virus ever, go team doom and gloom!

[TheRealDeal]

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these guys are way safer in the bubble right now

[SFour]

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these guys are way safer in the bubble right now

the doomsdayers are mad right now

[RoLo]

Were they in the same position? I haven't looked at the data but anecdotally I remember Italy being a complete hotbed for Corona, as bad or worse than China. Now that I think about it, that may have been 4 months ago. The US really blew a 3-1 lead on this pandemic.

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Could that be a result of more testing? Either way seems normal, once the virus takes hold it'll run its coarse, the good news is the mortality rate is going down, its actually less then the flu now i heard, but i know i know you want this to be the worst virus ever, go team doom and gloom!

all it took was a 40 second youtube video to be your tw? damn

[gei]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

You might want to pay less attention to sensationalized media headlines and actually look at data once in a while. Your assertions here are grossly out of touch with reality.

Italy has a death rate of 580 per million people from COVID, vs 434 in the USA. Meaning Italy has fared about 33% worse than the US has - and this is not a small difference. Yes the US has more people dying from COVID than Italy does at the moment, but the number of deaths in the US will likely continue to trend downward and this gap will not come even close to closing.

When all is said and done, vastly more people per capita have died from COVID in Italy than in the US.

[beanbag]

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these guys are way safer in the bubble right now

the doomsdayers are mad right now

As someone who doesn't support what they are doing right now, this is great news. The whole point of not wanting them to do this was always about people staying safe. Hopefully it continues.

At the same time, the discrepancy between the testing and results being achieved in the NBA bubble versus in the surrounding community is still something that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[jaymeister15]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

You can’t really compare timelines for a country of 60 million vs a country of 328 million. Not to mention how vastly larger the U.S. is in terms of land size, they are naturally going to have an extended time period of high amounts of cases and different peaks and valleys. But, if you want to try to compare them, the U.S has fared far better than Italy by the most important metric (deaths per capita)

I’m also far from a trump fan, however I don’t really understand where this idea that democratic lead states are doing better than republican lead ones comes from. When you rank states by deaths per capita, only 2 of the 10 highest have Republican governors.

[GooniesNeverDie]

1) Deaths lag behind, let's see where we're at in 2 weeks

2) I don't trust republican states death stats anyways (not that I trust dems, but I trust Republicans less since they've openly tried to suppress this info)

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[OAKLEY_2]

Were they in the same position? I haven't looked at the data but anecdotally I remember Italy being a complete hotbed for Corona, as bad or worse than China. Now that I think about it, that may have been 4 months ago. The US really blew a 3-1 lead on this pandemic.

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Could that be a result of more testing? Either way seems normal, once the virus takes hold it'll run its coarse, the good news is the mortality rate is going down, its actually less then the flu now i heard, but i know i know you want this to be the worst virus ever, go team doom and gloom!

There is no sugarcoationg the U.S. response to this SARS 2 virus. There are two nations south of the border. The New Confederacy of interference running yahoos and then states like Colorado that because of changing demographics more resemble Canada in how they govern themselves. So the virus is only as doom and gloom as a society's ability to fund and implement emergency response and pandemic spread prevention. Somebody termed the United States as a fractured nation with a broken sense of common purpose. This is as much the disease, a profound illness, as is Corona.

[OAKLEY_2]

Doomsayers reduces this to normalizing the Disney bubble. This so far from normal. The NBA with its resources is creating a sealed bubble experiment whereas the population at large is realtively unsafe with ever increasing rates of infection. Next season is in danger too.

[Fairview4Life]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

You can’t really compare timelines for a country of 60 million vs a country of 328 million. Not to mention how vastly larger the U.S. is in terms of land size, they are naturally going to have an extended time period of high amounts of cases and different peaks and valleys. But, if you want to try to compare them, the U.S has fared far better than Italy by the most important metric (deaths per capita)

I’m also far from a trump fan, however I don’t really understand where this idea that democratic lead states are doing better than republican lead ones comes from. When you rank states by deaths per capita, only 2 of the 10 highest have Republican governors.

NY and California, where the outbreaks in the US initially hit, should have been seen as warning signs and used as examples to learn from. Cuomo's terrible decision with nursing homes, de blasio's general idiocy and abdication of power, Newsom opening things up against the advice and numbers of the plans they had come up with, should have been used by other states as an example of what not to do. Instead, absolute frothing morons like Ron DeSantis wanted everyone to apologize to him, and Brian Kemp decided that fudging the numbers was the best way forward. If someone reaches into a sink and gets their hand mangled by a garburator, yes, you are doing worse if you walk up behind him, tell him what an idiot he is, and then do the exact same thing.

[Vaclac]

Newsom opening things up against the advice and numbers of the plans they had come up with, should have been used by other states as an example of what not to do.

I'm not sure what you think he should have done, since I understand from a previous discussion that you don't actually take the position that we should remain shut down until there's a vaccine. But if reopening is what causes cases to increase, and you accept that you can't just stay shut down indefinitely, then the approach of staying closed a little longer, as you apparently suggest Newsom should should have done, just delays the spike, but doesn't avoid it.

[Fairview4Life]

Newsom opening things up against the advice and numbers of the plans they had come up with, should have been used by other states as an example of what not to do.

I'm not sure what you think he should have done, since I understand from a previous discussion that you don't actually take the position that we should remain shut down until there's a vaccine. But if reopening is what causes cases to increase, and you accept that you can't just stay shut down indefinitely, then the approach of staying closed a little longer, as you apparently suggest Newsom should should have done, just delays the spike, but doesn't avoid it.

They had a plan that said we should open up X, Y and Z when we hit metrics A, B and C, and then they ignored them and are seeing the results. You can absolutely open things up, I am living in a province that is doing just that currently, when you have cases under control. Get cases really low. Mandate masks, keep social distancing rules for air conditioned indoor places like dining and movie theaters, etc etc etc. The economy will not recover if the virus isn't under control. It is very simple. They are inextricably linked. You can't just open back up and then accept the virus exploding again and shrug your shoulders and say welp, them's the breaks.