Official Scottie Barnes Thread 2

[KO7]

18 points in the 2nd half after being ignored the entire first half. 90% of it was iso attempts.

Players should get fined if they don't look for Scottie if he has a mismatch on him in the paint. It's one of our most efficient plays in the half court.

Damn shame that Thaddeus robbed Scottie of 2 additional points by ignoring him wide open beside the rim and passing to Precious coming in from the top of the key instead (who didn’t convert).

[WaltFrazier]

Recently there was talk here of a ranking that had Scottie up to #2 behind Mobley. But now this:

Kia Rookie Ladder: Cade Cunningham climbs to No. 2 with 1 month left

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-9-2022-edition

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[GreatWhiteStiff]

Recently there was talk here of a ranking that had Scottie up to #2 behind Mobley. But now this:

Kia Rookie Ladder: Cade Cunningham climbs to No. 2 with 1 month left

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-9-2022-edition

It's kinda rough because a guy has a worse than .500 TS and a lot of turnovers, and isn't known for defence/surely isn't very good at defence.

[HumbleRen]

Recently there was talk here of a ranking that had Scottie up to #2 behind Mobley. But now this:

Kia Rookie Ladder: Cade Cunningham climbs to No. 2 with 1 month left

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-9-2022-edition

It's kinda rough because a guy has a worse than .500 TS and a lot of turnovers, and isn't known for defence/surely isn't very good at defence.

his defence has been actually good tbh

I think it's easy to look at the percentages and kinda miss the actual stuff that your eyes show you.

Whenever I've seen Cade play, he's easily the most polished rookie in the league and has always looked like the best rookie on the court whenever he's played Mobley or Barnes.

[OakleyDokely]

Recently there was talk here of a ranking that had Scottie up to #2 behind Mobley. But now this:

Kia Rookie Ladder: Cade Cunningham climbs to No. 2 with 1 month left

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-9-2022-edition

Cade has a 49 TS%. Playing on a tanking team has it advantages because you can jack up shots at will, put up nice raw numbers and nobody cares about your efficiency.

The only players who should be in contention for ROY are Mobley and Barnes. Both combine great raw stats with solid efficiency and both are contributing to winners.

[OakleyDokely]

TS%, Top 6 picks:

Barnes: .553
Mobley: .545
Green: .530
Cade: .496
Giddey: .478
Suggs: .459

[HumbleRen]

TS%, Top 6 picks:

Barnes: .553
Mobley: .545
Green: .530
Cade: .496
Giddey: .478
Suggs: .459

I think this is why scouts or the media don't get too wrapped up about TS. Cade is getting completely different looks compared to any of those rookies, teams are actively trying to shut him down because he's become the engine of the team.

I think Mobley and Barnes should be top 2 because consistency should be rewarded but I wouldn't fault anyone for putting Cade at 2 if he continues this level of play for the rest of the season.

[Madhouse]

Suggs 46% TS?

wtf lol

[Kingsway_fan]

Very good rookie crop... indeed... case can be made for Cade, Barnes, Mobley ROY.... will be close...

[Dude-niagara]

Yeah I'd give him the greenlight over Trent now. Clearly better player. #2 option behind Siakam, #3 when Fred returns.

No more 5th option ****. Those days are over.

Pathetic he had 2 attempts in first half and then when he looks unstoppable in second half you had some players looking him off. Masai will need to clean this mess up if he wants Scottie to grow into the star they want him to be. You have 3 stars Siakam/Fred and Trent taking turns jacking 25 shots a night even if they don't have it going. Like yesterday, Scottie smoking hot in the 4th quarter and Trent goes ISO. When you factor in role player ball hogger like Boucher/Precious and even Banton, there needs to be changes and players need to understand. Not suggesting he be our top option next season but no way can he be 4th or 5th option and some sixth

[Dude-niagara]

So painfully obvious that he's ready to be moved up in the pecking order. The only player in our starting lineup who actually becomes more efficient with a bigger usage.

Some players missed the memo and looking to get their own, Trent is the worse. Shooting for his next contract no matter how many bricks he is tossing up.Then you have Siakam who only passes when he has no options and its a freaking mess for Scottie playing with some of these guys. Still say OG lines up best with Scottie because he is not ball dominant and works best off of catch and shoot that Scottie can set him up with. This allows Scottie to play down in the post and he is our best power post player, only going to get better

[aminiaturebuddha]

So painfully obvious that he's ready to be moved up in the pecking order. The only player in our starting lineup who actually becomes more efficient with a bigger usage.

Some players missed the memo and looking to get their own, Trent is the worse. Shooting for his next contract no matter how many bricks he is tossing up.Then you have Siakam who only passes when he has no options and its a freaking mess for Scottie playing with some of these guys. Still say OG lines up best with Scottie because he is not ball dominant and works best off of catch and shoot that Scottie can set him up with. This allows Scottie to play down in the post and he is our best power post player, only going to get better

I've seen you mention this a few times in various threads, and I really don't know where you're getting this from because it's simply not true. Pascal has become a very good passer and facilitator.

Have you honestly not seen that Pascal frequently seeks out opportunities to attract double-teams so that he can pass to an open man? Do you really not notice this happening during games?

[Madhouse]

since the ASB
8 games, 19/9/3/2/1, 65% TS

[vulture]

Having re-watched the game this morning, I thought this was Scottie's best defensive game in a while. He had some possessions against Murray where he made him shoot over the top. If he can be solid and just make guys shoot over him then that is making strides.

[Psubs]

So painfully obvious that he's ready to be moved up in the pecking order. The only player in our starting lineup who actually becomes more efficient with a bigger usage.

Some players missed the memo and looking to get their own, Trent is the worse. Shooting for his next contract no matter how many bricks he is tossing up.Then you have Siakam who only passes when he has no options and its a freaking mess for Scottie playing with some of these guys. Still say OG lines up best with Scottie because he is not ball dominant and works best off of catch and shoot that Scottie can set him up with. This allows Scottie to play down in the post and he is our best power post player, only going to get better

I've seen you mention this a few times in various threads, and I really don't know where you're getting this from because it's simply not true. Pascal has become a very good passer and facilitator.

Have you honestly not seen that Pascal frequently seeks out opportunities to attract double-teams so that he can pass to an open man? Do you really not notice this happening during games?

If they can make a trade for like a Sabonis level C I would package Trent. When FVV and OG are in the lineup, they play like they can beat any team in the East.

PG FVV
SG OG
SF Barnes
PF Siakam
C ?

[Madhouse]

Truthfully what I hope he works on hard is drawing fouls. How to invite contact and finish through it has to be a big part of his game.

[WaltFrazier]

Recently there was talk here of a ranking that had Scottie up to #2 behind Mobley. But now this:

Kia Rookie Ladder: Cade Cunningham climbs to No. 2 with 1 month left

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-9-2022-edition

Cade has a 49 TS%. Playing on a tanking team has it advantages because you can jack up shots at will, put up nice raw numbers and nobody cares about your efficiency.

The only players who should be in contention for ROY are Mobley and Barnes. Both combine great raw stats with solid efficiency and both are contributing to winners.

Well, it's not Cade's fault he's on a worse, or younger team than the other two. And he is the 2 way tall wing scorer prototype that has star potential.

Also I don't think ROY puts the same weight on being on a winning team, as the MVP does.

All three are great rookies, it' close anyway.

[Raps in 4]

Suggs 46% TS?

wtf lol

He sucks. I've never been so wrong about a prospect. Wagner was a great pick by the Magic, but Suggs has bust written all over him.