2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[OAKLEY_2]

Predictions: say goodbye to Boucher (FA). At 9 Khaman Maluach is gone probably to Brooklyn. Kon Knueppel gone too. Hello Colin Murray-Boyles at 9. Ochai Agbaji is dealt for a pick that lands us Hansen Yang. Raps take Bogoljub Markovic (more Mega Basket) with pick 2.

Roster. Scottie Barnes, Brandon Ingram, Jakob Poetl, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Jamal Shead, Gradey Dick, Jonathan Mogbo, Jakobe Walter, Colin Murray-Boyles, Jamison Battle, AJ Lawson, Jared Rhoden, Ulrich Chomche, Hansen Yang, Garrett Temple.

On to Summer League.

[bballsparkin]

Maybe I am a Sabonis hater, but I dont see this team having more upside with Sabonis instead of Poeltl.

Sabonis sucks at everything that you need a center to be good at (namely, defense)

I think if you really want Sabonis than Scottie is the player to move. I don't see the fit with those two.

[CazOnReal]

Maybe I am a Sabonis hater, but I dont see this team having more upside with Sabonis instead of Poeltl.

Sabonis sucks at everything that you need a center to be good at (namely, defense)

I think if you really want Sabonis than Scottie is the player to move. I don't see the fit with those two.

Moving Scottie Barnes to make room for Sabonis is the sort of front office malpractice that turns you into the Kings

[bballsparkin]

Maybe I am a Sabonis hater, but I dont see this team having more upside with Sabonis instead of Poeltl.

Sabonis sucks at everything that you need a center to be good at (namely, defense)

I think if you really want Sabonis than Scottie is the player to move. I don't see the fit with those two.

Moving Scottie Barnes to make room for Sabonis is the sort of front office malpractice that turns you into the Kings

I'm not saying do it. I'm saying if someone wants Sabonis that badly that's the move as they don't fit.

[Rapsfan07]

I think Toronto is going to trade Grady Dick to Utah. Theres alot of ways this trade could work. We could trade up from 9 to 5. We could trade for Walker Kessler who is on the last year of his contract. They also have picks number 21, 43 and 53 and plenty of picks in 2027 and 2028 to add to the deal. Grady Dick probably becomes a star on that Utah team and probably wont have that oppurtunity here in Toronto.

I don't think Dick is enough to take you from #9 to #5 in this draft and even if it could, I'm not sure I'd want to make that move. Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe and Bailey will all be gone by then, which means we'll end up with Johnson at best and I'm not sure how I feel about him. He's a decent player with a reasonably high ceiling but we could say the same about guys we could grab later in the draft.

Not sure what happened with Kessler and why people are assuming he's available but if he can be had for Dick, it's absolutely a move a would make. We're pretty logjamed in the wings anyway and desperately need a quality big that can eventually replace Poeltl.

[TGM]

Raps need to do a consolidation trade. We have sufficient depth. Raps haven’t had an alpha scorer since Kawhi and in the history of the team outside of him and Vince we’ve only had secondary scoring options.

Ingram can maybe be that guy, but not totally sold.

[Saul Goodman]

Is there any way to turn Dick onto Jabari Smith JR? If so the Raptors should do it. Smith is odd man out in Houston but is a perfect 5 to pair with Barnes in the front court.


Dick
#9
Portland 2nd

For

Smith jr
#10

[DreamTeam09]

Is there any way to turn Dick onto Jabari Smith JR? If so the Raptors should do it. Smith is odd man out in Houston but is a perfect 5 to pair with Barnes in the front court.


Dick
#9
Portland 2nd

For

Smith jr
#10

Now this is a good deal I'd like to make.

[OhCanada]

I think Toronto is going to trade Grady Dick to Utah. Theres alot of ways this trade could work. We could trade up from 9 to 5. We could trade for Walker Kessler who is on the last year of his contract. They also have picks number 21, 43 and 53 and plenty of picks in 2027 and 2028 to add to the deal. Grady Dick probably becomes a star on that Utah team and probably wont have that oppurtunity here in Toronto.

I don't think Dick is enough to take you from #9 to #5 in this draft and even if it could, I'm not sure I'd want to make that move. Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe and Bailey will all be gone by then, which means we'll end up with Johnson at best and I'm not sure how I feel about him. He's a decent player with a reasonably high ceiling but we could say the same about guys we could grab later in the draft.


Not sure what happened with Kessler and why people are assuming he's available but if he can be had for Dick, it's absolutely a move a would make. We're pretty logjamed in the wings anyway and desperately need a quality big that can eventually replace Poeltl.

Your assuming those 4 will be going top 4 guaranteed. The drafts full of surprises. Tre Johnson is a stud, He's a lights out shooter the dude is no joke. Alot of people have him ranked as the 3rd best prospect in this draft. Theres also a ton of wildcards like Maluach, Bryant and Demin. Demin changed his shooting form since the college season ended and fixed his jumpshot according to reports. Teams have been drooling over him in workout settings, take that for what its worth but theres people who believe he's a top 5 pick. Theres also people who still believe in Queen and tbh I'm a big fan of what I seen from him playing at Maryland. He was very rarely not the best player in the game.

I think the theory behind the Kessler trade rumors is Danny Ainge is in full tank mode until he acquires a franchise altering talent he can rebuild around. Kessler is a good young player however in three seasons hes averaged 54% from the free throw line so you can't have him on the floor to close out games and hes always a target for the hack and shaq which is a real tough tactic because you can use that to stop transition oppurtunities and ruin a teams momentum. In the playoffs he would get exploited unless he gets above 60%-65% from the free throw line. He's on the last year of his contract, is a restricted free agent and is probably going to cost around $20-$25 mil per year to retain. So if you don't think hes the Center of your future and don't think he fits the assumed "franchise altering talent's" timeline then you need to cycle him for another asset.

As far as Grady goes its kind of just the fit here in Toronto hasn't suited his skillset. Toronto drafted him to be your typical off the ball movement shooter like a Klay Thompson but thats not what he is. Dick wants the ball in his hand, he wants to slash to the rim and create but playing with RJ, Ingram and Barnes those oppurtunities will be few and far between. Agbaji is really starting to develop into a high level off the ball shooter, he was a late bloomer and it took him 3 to 4 years to develop into an impact player at the college level and the same thing has happened in the NBA now entering his 4th year. I'm not saying he's a better talent than Grady Dick but he's a better fit for sure if we are really trying to make this current roster competitive. I think Dick can be a legit second option in the league and borderline allstar in the right situation.

[NotMyKawhi]

RJ and ocahi for Derozan, JV and a 1st

[gerrit4]

Raps need to do a consolidation trade. We have sufficient depth. Raps haven’t had an alpha scorer since Kawhi and in the history of the team outside of him and Vince we’ve only had secondary scoring options.

Ingram can maybe be that guy, but not totally sold.

I think you're right, but we should probably be a bit more patient, considering how poorly the team has performed so far. I think we need to figure out what works before we start consolidating.

Yes, I'm purposefully avoiding the word "evaluate."

I think the time to make a consolidation move will be once we see how these guys work together, as nobody knows how Ingram fits with any of these guys yet. He might be this group's "Rudy Gay," and maybe we'll move on from him sooner, or he could be this group's "Ibaka" and is an important piece in some playoff runs. I think they need to actually play to figure it out. But hey, if there is a great move available, we should go for it.

[LoveMyRaps]

Hot take - acquire Porzingis.

He also wanted to be a Raptor a few years ago so he'll be easy to re-sign.

[PhilBlackson]

Hot take - acquire Porzingis.

He also wanted to be a Raptor a few years ago so he'll be easy to re-sign.

Problem is finding expiring contracts of the same value because the whole reason the Cs want to trade him is $avings.

Is there any way to turn Dick onto Jabari Smith JR? If so the Raptors should do it. Smith is odd man out in Houston but is a perfect 5 to pair with Barnes in the front court.


Dick
#9
Portland 2nd

For

Smith jr
#10

I don't think Jabari is really a 5 but nonetheless I'd still do that deal assuming Maluach is off the board by 9.

[vanhill]

I hope we can take a look of Kenneth lofton Jr if he is available. He is coming off a MVP season which could be our key player on the bench or even starting.

He can score, rebound and has decent passing skills.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Is there any way to turn Dick onto Jabari Smith JR? If so the Raptors should do it. Smith is odd man out in Houston but is a perfect 5 to pair with Barnes in the front court.


Dick
#9
Portland 2nd

For

Smith jr
#10

Now this is a good deal I'd like to make.

There’s a reason they say Better call Saul !

[Psubs]

Hot take - acquire Porzingis.

He also wanted to be a Raptor a few years ago so he'll be easy to re-sign.

Problem is finding expiring contracts of the same value because the whole reason the Cs want to trade him is $avings.

Is there any way to turn Dick onto Jabari Smith JR? If so the Raptors should do it. Smith is odd man out in Houston but is a perfect 5 to pair with Barnes in the front court.


Dick
#9
Portland 2nd

For

Smith jr
#10

I don't think Jabari is really a 5 but nonetheless I'd still do that deal assuming Maluach is off the board by 9.

1. Sign Luke Kornet instead of trading for Porzingis

2. I would trade #9, Dick and Agbaji for #10 and Smith Jr, then draft Carter Bryant.

PG IQ - Shead - JaKobe
SG RJ - JaKobe - Battle
SF Ingram - Mogbo/Bryant
PF Barnes - Smith - Mogbo
C Poeltl - Smith - Chomche

[CazOnReal]

Yeah i'm cool not having an alleged rapist on the team...https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26401287/report-porzingis-accused-rape-new-york

In March 2019, it was publicly revealed that a woman accused Porziņģis of raping her at the Sky building in February 2018, hours after he tore his ACL. The woman reportedly told police she waited more than a year to come forward because she had discussed getting a $68,000 payout from Porziņģis to keep quiet.

Also Tingus Pingus has shown he literally cannot be relied upon given his health the past 2 season. Celtics more or less won without him the prior season and this season? Him succumbing to an unknown illness is one of the main reasons Boston went out earlier than anticipated (Though losing Tatum didn't help of course).

re: Dick - I still maintain they're not going to trade him given there's no rush to move on from him and he's literally coming off of an injury which will hurt his trade value (And again, I don't think the "untouchable" label is some smokescreen 5D Connect 4 move when this FO has demonstrated they see RJ as the odd man out as far as their current SG rotation is concerned - and yes RJ is a SG unless you plan on turning him into a larger PG since he doesn't have the defensive chops to be a 3) but if you can swap him for Jabari Smith - perhaps as a 3-way trade for whichever star Houston acquires - then it wouldn't be the worst swap given Jabari fills a very specific role as a stretch 4 who can play the role of a small ball 5.

Only issue is you need to extend Smith and I think he'll be more costly to extend than one would assume.

[Psubs]

Yeah i'm cool not having an alleged rapist on the team...https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26401287/report-porzingis-accused-rape-new-york

In March 2019, it was publicly revealed that a woman accused Porziņģis of raping her at the Sky building in February 2018, hours after he tore his ACL. The woman reportedly told police she waited more than a year to come forward because she had discussed getting a $68,000 payout from Porziņģis to keep quiet.

Also Tingus Pingus has shown he literally cannot be relied upon given his health the past 2 season. Celtics more or less won without him the prior season and this season? Him succumbing to an unknown illness is one of the main reasons Boston went out earlier than anticipated (Though losing Tatum didn't help of course).

re: Dick - I still maintain they're not going to trade him given there's no rush to move on from him and he's literally coming off of an injury which will hurt his trade value (And again, I don't think the "untouchable" label is some smokescreen 5D Connect 4 move when this FO has demonstrated they see RJ as the odd man out as far as their current SG rotation is concerned - and yes RJ is a SG unless you plan on turning him into a larger PG since he doesn't have the defensive chops to be a 3) but if you can swap him for Jabari Smith - perhaps as a 3-way trade for whichever star Houston acquires - then it wouldn't be the worst swap given Jabari fills a very specific role as a stretch 4 who can play the role of a small ball 5.

Only issue is you need to extend Smith and I think he'll be more costly to extend than one would assume.

Bring Jabari off the bench.

Anyway, I would sign Luke Kornet to the full MLE. His first 2 seasons in the league with NY he was taking four 3's per game and hitting at 35%, then going to Chicago lost it. His A/T is 3 and given around 20 mpg I think he'd be just as effective as Poeltl. The MLE is a bargain, as he should be getting paid $15-20 million per year.

[Morris_Shatford]

Anyone want to float a guess as to what Ochai Agbaji's extension looks like?

[CoinTossRoss31]

Anyone want to float a guess as to what Ochai Agbaji's extension looks like?

3 year 40 million