2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

[Dukenukem23]

Poor Bogdanovic he looked terrified when his coach grabbed his neck. If a coach did that in North America he would be charged. I don't see how this hurts bogs stock since he just walked away after being humiliated.

[Risk101]

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All picks around our range at #20

[lemons321]

Anderson's movements with the ball in his hands and his jump shot remind me of Hedo, a lot. I'm intrigued because I think having another player who can get shots for others is always great, especially when they can grab a rebound and make an outlet pass down the court like he can. But I'm worried that he's one of those players who'll take 2-3 years to push his body in to NBA conditioning and by then he'll be on another team.

I'm also not sold on him playing with DeRozan at the same time because of how bad the wing D would be, you'd have to almost exclusively play him with Ross and whatever Vet we bring in to replace Salmons. He may not be as easy to hide on this team as you'd think.

Fun guy to watch either way, he's a total wizard with the ball for a guy his size.

[m83588333]

Having a tall passing big man helps to feed JV in the post. Watching Diaw in San Antonio shows the benefits of a point forward. However Anderson has never played the forward position.

[m83588333]

Also Diaw is a Free Agent. If Toronto wanted that type of player its better to sign Diaw.

[Throwback24]

I've never felt so disinterested about a draft before, I'm going into it hoping our 20th pick can crack the top 9 or 10 in year 3.

Second round picks.. meh. I really don't know haha. My expectations can only go up from here seeing as how I have none.

Really? I'm stoked. A lot of nice players. Pretty sure Anderson would be a fit with us. I think Payne will be a player as well. Just haven't heard if we are working out Payne.

To be fair a lot of it has to probably do with the fact I haven't been keeping up with any of the draft prospects > 10. This is uncharted territory for me and the Raptors

[ballislife]

Tyler Ennis is a guy that's more and more looking like our pick. Masai said he'd be surprised if he was available at 20, so it's likely he'd take him as BPA.

Orlando is the main team that would take him at 12, but if they take Exum at 4, they won't want another PG in the lottery. The teams following have great PG play already, and there's a good chance they won't want Ennis with their pick with all the SG/SF's available in this draft:

Timberwolves at 13: Rubio is the PG for them... they need a SG/SF.
Suns at 14: They have Dragic and Bledsoe playing PG.
Hawks at 15: They have Teague/Shroder. Also have a lot of interest in Anderson (bringing him in for a 2nd workout).
Bulls at 16: They have Rose, and they want shooters on the wings.
Celtics at 17: They have Rondo and Bradley. Pick might also be dealt to the Wolves for Love.. they have Rubio.
Suns at 18: Again, Dragic and Bledsoe.
Bulls at 19: Again, looking for shooters on the wings. And they have Rose coming back.

Toronto at 20: Tyler Ennis could be our first Canadian draftee and the PG of our future. A Lowry/Vassquez/Ennis combo at PG is the best in the league, and GV can easily play SG at 6'6".

[CPT]

Tyler Ennis is a guy that's more and more looking like our pick. Masai said he'd be surprised if he was available at 20, so it's likely he'd take him as BPA.

Orlando is the main team that would take him at 12, but if they take Exum at 4, they won't want another PG in the lottery. The teams following have great PG play already, and there's a good chance they won't want Ennis with their pick with all the SG/SF's available in this draft:

Timberwolves at 13: Rubio is the PG for them... they need a SG/SF.
Suns at 14: They have Dragic and Bledsoe playing PG.
Hawks at 15: They have Teague/Shroder. Also have a lot of interest in Anderson (bringing him in for a 2nd workout).
Bulls at 16: They have Rose, and they want shooters on the wings.
Celtics at 17: They have Rondo and Bradley. Pick might also be dealt to the Wolves for Love.. they have Rubio.
Suns at 18: Again, Dragic and Bledsoe.
Bulls at 19: Again, looking for shooters on the wings. And they have Rose coming back.

Toronto at 20: Tyler Ennis could be our first Canadian draftee and the PG of our future. A Lowry/Vassquez/Ennis combo at PG is the best in the league, and GV can easily play SG at 6'6".

I actually agree there's a chance Ennis is available, and I think he's the no brainer pick if he's there (unless there's someone better [/hedge]), BUT it's a bit of a logical fallacy to assume other teams will draft for need while we take the BPA.

I mean, if you were a fan of another team, wouldn't you just add Toronto to this list, since we have Lowry and Vasquez? I guess both could be gone, and there's the Toronto connection with Ennis specifically, but PG is hardly a need for us either.

[Dukenukem23]

Ennis is Kendall Marshall 2.0. Can't finish in traffic, can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at #20 and I hope Masai passes him over for someone with more upside then D league all star.

[Jermaine OBosh]

Tyler Ennis is a guy that's more and more looking like our pick. Masai said he'd be surprised if he was available at 20, so it's likely he'd take him as BPA.

Orlando is the main team that would take him at 12, but if they take Exum at 4, they won't want another PG in the lottery. The teams following have great PG play already, and there's a good chance they won't want Ennis with their pick with all the SG/SF's available in this draft:

Timberwolves at 13: Rubio is the PG for them... they need a SG/SF.
Suns at 14: They have Dragic and Bledsoe playing PG.
Hawks at 15: They have Teague/Shroder. Also have a lot of interest in Anderson (bringing him in for a 2nd workout).
Bulls at 16: They have Rose, and they want shooters on the wings.
Celtics at 17: They have Rondo and Bradley. Pick might also be dealt to the Wolves for Love.. they have Rubio.
Suns at 18: Again, Dragic and Bledsoe.
Bulls at 19: Again, looking for shooters on the wings. And they have Rose coming back.

Toronto at 20: Tyler Ennis could be our first Canadian draftee and the PG of our future. A Lowry/Vassquez/Ennis combo at PG is the best in the league, and GV can easily play SG at 6'6".

Bulls will use one of their pick to get a PG and other to get a Shooters on the wings. Rose is having injuries issues they need a backup.

[TheDunc]

Ennis is Kendall Marshall 2.0. Can't finish in traffic, can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at #20 and I hope Masai passes him over for someone with more upside then D league all star.

You know nothing! It was also his first year in the NCAA and he performed pretty damn well for a freshman. Not athletic in any sense? why because he doesn't throw down 360 dunks?

He's easily the BPA at 20

[LoveMyRaps]

Seems like Bogan has a bad temper. He got ejected from a game and choked by his coach.

He may slip to the second round!

Bogdan Bogdanović is projected as a second-round pick in the 2014 NBA draft. A 21-year-old shooting guard from Serbia, he has quality size and a solid skillet, but he lacks the athleticism necessary to put his draft stock over top.

He can also slightly lose his temper after an, admittedly bad, foul call.

That doesn’t excuse the “coaching” that followed (ha

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That's f*cked up man.
The coach is probably one of the main reasons why he declared.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Tyler Ennis is a guy that's more and more looking like our pick. Masai said he'd be surprised if he was available at 20, so it's likely he'd take him as BPA.

Orlando is the main team that would take him at 12, but if they take Exum at 4, they won't want another PG in the lottery. The teams following have great PG play already, and there's a good chance they won't want Ennis with their pick with all the SG/SF's available in this draft:

Timberwolves at 13: Rubio is the PG for them... they need a SG/SF.
Suns at 14: They have Dragic and Bledsoe playing PG.
Hawks at 15: They have Teague/Shroder. Also have a lot of interest in Anderson (bringing him in for a 2nd workout).
Bulls at 16: They have Rose, and they want shooters on the wings.
Celtics at 17: They have Rondo and Bradley. Pick might also be dealt to the Wolves for Love.. they have Rubio.
Suns at 18: Again, Dragic and Bledsoe.
Bulls at 19: Again, looking for shooters on the wings. And they have Rose coming back.

Toronto at 20: Tyler Ennis could be our first Canadian draftee and the PG of our future. A Lowry/Vassquez/Ennis combo at PG is the best in the league, and GV can easily play SG at 6'6".

Bulls will use one of their pick to get a PG and other to get a Shooters on the wings. Rose is having injuries issues they need a backup.

Yep, I can't see the Bulls not taking a PG with one of their picks. Yes, they believe that Rose is coming back, but they're too smart of an organization not to have a back-up plan with Rose's health not exactly being reliable the past couple of years.

[Dukenukem23]

Ennis is Kendall Marshall 2.0. Can't finish in traffic, can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at #20 and I hope Masai passes him over for someone with more upside then D league all star.

You know nothing! It was also his first year in the NCAA and he performed pretty damn well for a freshman. Not athletic in any sense? why because he doesn't throw down 360 dunks?

He's easily the BPA at 20

This isn't just my opinion, All the scouting reports on Ennis say he's very unathletic. Have a read and see

[cammac]

Anderson's movements with the ball in his hands and his jump shot remind me of Hedo, a lot. I'm intrigued because I think having another player who can get shots for others is always great, especially when they can grab a rebound and make an outlet pass down the court like he can. But I'm worried that he's one of those players who'll take 2-3 years to push his body in to NBA conditioning and by then he'll be on another team.

I'm also not sold on him playing with DeRozan at the same time because of how bad the wing D would be, you'd have to almost exclusively play him with Ross and whatever Vet we bring in to replace Salmons. He may not be as easy to hide on this team as you'd think.

Fun guy to watch either way, he's a total wizard with the ball for a guy his size.

It is obvious that if we get Anderson he will be in effect our back-up PG playing SF. If that is the case I don't see Vasquez coming back but a players like Livingston and maybe Vince. Lineups with Livingston, Vince and Ross playing 1 & 2 with Anderson at 3, Patterson or Amir and Jonas or hopefully Bachynski would dominate any second unit in the NBA. I'm still extremely high on Anderson but would take Porzingis ahead of him.

[Raptorfan2012]

Tyler Ennis is a guy that's more and more looking like our pick. Masai said he'd be surprised if he was available at 20, so it's likely he'd take him as BPA.

Orlando is the main team that would take him at 12, but if they take Exum at 4, they won't want another PG in the lottery. The teams following have great PG play already, and there's a good chance they won't want Ennis with their pick with all the SG/SF's available in this draft:

Timberwolves at 13: Rubio is the PG for them... they need a SG/SF.
Suns at 14: They have Dragic and Bledsoe playing PG.
Hawks at 15: They have Teague/Shroder. Also have a lot of interest in Anderson (bringing him in for a 2nd workout).
Bulls at 16: They have Rose, and they want shooters on the wings.
Celtics at 17: They have Rondo and Bradley. Pick might also be dealt to the Wolves for Love.. they have Rubio.
Suns at 18: Again, Dragic and Bledsoe.
Bulls at 19: Again, looking for shooters on the wings. And they have Rose coming back.

Toronto at 20: Tyler Ennis could be our first Canadian draftee and the PG of our future. A Lowry/Vassquez/Ennis combo at PG is the best in the league, and GV can easily play SG at 6'6".

Bulls will use one of their pick to get a PG and other to get a Shooters on the wings. Rose is having injuries issues they need a backup.

Yeah the most likely candidate to take Ennis is probably the Bulls since they need back up insurance for Rose. Question is whether they want Payton or Ennis. Maybe Masai can pull a trade to get one of their picks in exchange for some salary cap relief (since the Bulls seem to be hunting for a big name player this offseason).

[aminiaturebuddha]

Ennis is Kendall Marshall 2.0. Can't finish in traffic, can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at #20 and I hope Masai passes him over for someone with more upside then D league all star.

Kind of funny that your criticisms of Ennis are that he "can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense" and yet you have Anderson listed as your top draft priority.

[cammac]

Tyler Ennis is a guy that's more and more looking like our pick. Masai said he'd be surprised if he was available at 20, so it's likely he'd take him as BPA.

Orlando is the main team that would take him at 12, but if they take Exum at 4, they won't want another PG in the lottery. The teams following have great PG play already, and there's a good chance they won't want Ennis with their pick with all the SG/SF's available in this draft:

Timberwolves at 13: Rubio is the PG for them... they need a SG/SF.
Suns at 14: They have Dragic and Bledsoe playing PG.
Hawks at 15: They have Teague/Shroder. Also have a lot of interest in Anderson (bringing him in for a 2nd workout).
Bulls at 16: They have Rose, and they want shooters on the wings.
Celtics at 17: They have Rondo and Bradley. Pick might also be dealt to the Wolves for Love.. they have Rubio.
Suns at 18: Again, Dragic and Bledsoe.
Bulls at 19: Again, looking for shooters on the wings. And they have Rose coming back.

Toronto at 20: Tyler Ennis could be our first Canadian draftee and the PG of our future. A Lowry/Vassquez/Ennis combo at PG is the best in the league, and GV can easily play SG at 6'6".

Bulls will use one of their pick to get a PG and other to get a Shooters on the wings. Rose is having injuries issues they need a backup.

Yeah the most likely candidate to take Ennis is probably the Bulls since they need back up insurance for Rose. Question is whether they want Payton or Ennis. Maybe Masai can pull a trade to get one of their picks in exchange for some salary cap relief (since the Bulls seem to be hunting for a big name player this offseason).

Still think that Masai might trade Ross +59th to Chicago for Dunleavy + 16th + 49th Chicago gets a player Thibs would love plus save about 2 million in cap space. Dunleavy is a savvy veteran who is 6ft9 SF on a good contract $3 million and could successfully play substantial minutes. We would then have 4 picks 16th, 20th, 37th and 49th.
With 16th and 20th we have a chance of getting 2 out of 4 players Anderson. Porzingis, Ennis or Payton. With 37th opportunity to possibly get Inglis and 49th get Bachynski

[Raptorfan2012]

Bulls will use one of their pick to get a PG and other to get a Shooters on the wings. Rose is having injuries issues they need a backup.

Yeah the most likely candidate to take Ennis is probably the Bulls since they need back up insurance for Rose. Question is whether they want Payton or Ennis. Maybe Masai can pull a trade to get one of their picks in exchange for some salary cap relief (since the Bulls seem to be hunting for a big name player this offseason).

Still think that Masai might trade Ross +59th to Chicago for Dunleavy + 16th + 49th Chicago gets a player Thibs would love plus save about 2 million in cap space. Dunleavy is a savvy veteran who is 6ft9 SF on a good contract $3 million and could successfully play substantial minutes. We would then have 4 picks 16th, 20th, 37th and 49th.
With 16th and 20th we have a chance of getting 2 out of 4 players Anderson. Porzingis, Ennis or Payton. With 37th opportunity to possibly get Inglis and 49th get Bachynski

Not sure if the Raptors would trade Ross to get a 16th pick and Dunleavy. Plus Ross will be a duplicate of Butler for the Bulls.

[cammac]

Yeah the most likely candidate to take Ennis is probably the Bulls since they need back up insurance for Rose. Question is whether they want Payton or Ennis. Maybe Masai can pull a trade to get one of their picks in exchange for some salary cap relief (since the Bulls seem to be hunting for a big name player this offseason).

Still think that Masai might trade Ross +59th to Chicago for Dunleavy + 16th + 49th Chicago gets a player Thibs would love plus save about 2 million in cap space. Dunleavy is a savvy veteran who is 6ft9 SF on a good contract $3 million and could successfully play substantial minutes. We would then have 4 picks 16th, 20th, 37th and 49th.
With 16th and 20th we have a chance of getting 2 out of 4 players Anderson. Porzingis, Ennis or Payton. With 37th opportunity to possibly get Inglis and 49th get Bachynski

Not sure if the Raptors would trade Ross to get a 16th pick and Dunleavy. Plus Ross will be a duplicate of Butler for the Bulls.

Worst case one would play 6th man and if the Bulls got Melo some time at SF.