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[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1221 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:04 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:OG not on the trading block.

[url][https://hoopshype.com/2022/06/13/og-anunoby-not-on-the-trading-block//url]

The Toronto Raptors are not looking to trade OG Anunoby, league sources told HoopsHype.


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The Toronto Raptors are not looking to trade OG Anunoby, league sources told HoopsHype. For Toronto to consider trading Anunoby, it would have to be a substantial trade package for the soon-to-be 25-year-old forward along the lines of a noteworthy upgrade at center or a top-10 draft pick.


Substantial package, true of any player, so not news. The key is he's not on the block, and Fischer's "reporting" is just aiming to stir up stuff.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1222 » by SHFT » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:14 pm

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"I know scottie is a rookie and being authentic trying to defended his teammate but hes further instigating and making people send hatefull stuff to me by saying stuff
He also directly says OGs people are calling teams to guage his market value. So this is 100% him being a mouthpiece for Klutch.

He seemed to take issue with the word sickening, but Scottie being him isn't going to stop and online fools saying hateful stuff (anything that crosses the line) pre dates Scottie Barnes.

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Raps fans are crazy. Dude isnt even reporting anything negative. He's saying that OG might want a bigger role (is there any decent player that doesnt?), other teams want him and Raps arent hanging up the phone. That chit deserves hate?
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1223 » by XTC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:03 pm

Watching what Wiggins did in the finals, makes me not want to trade OG anymore.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1224 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:16 pm

XTC wrote:Watching what Wiggins did in the finals, makes me not want to trade OG anymore.


cept Wiggins is way more coordinated, has handles on the offensive end.

OG change my mind lol if he can handle the ball like an NBA guard and not lose his balance all the time, sure, he would be an all star right now.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1225 » by ConSarnit » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:51 pm

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CANsportsguru wrote:This has Klutch written all over it. To say OG might want a bigger roll and is concerned about his future going into contract seasons isn't a stretch but that's a far cry from saying there's mutual interest on both sides facilitating a change of scenery. He's literally being attached to every possible trade scenario out there right now. Our front office doesn't leak anything and Fisher doesn't have that kind of pull. This is Rich Paul trying to play King maker.


The Raptors don't leak anything, unless it's in our interest to leak stuff. Here's a scenario - the team's target has long been SGA. It doesn't make sense for OKC to keep him AND Giddey. If Dort is being moved to upgrade a lottery pick (in a weak draft), then at a certain point Shai (and his max contract) just doesn't make sense for the Thunder to keep around.

Shai for OG was a pipe dream last summer. But if the Raps can drive OG's value up around the league, is it crazy to suggest that OKC may make a move to balance their roster? OG would look really good catching passes from Giddey.


I gotta say, this makes no sense. We have no idea if Shai is a target. All those rumors are from nobodies on sites like Raptors Rapture. Literally the only reason Shai gets tied to Toronto is because he’s Canadian.

Also, Shai is a pg/sg and Giddey is a sf. They will almost certainly draft a 4 or 5 at #2. OKC also has no salary tied up so Shai on a max means nothing to them. He’s also 23. How does he possibly not fit on the current OKC roster?

Finally, Presti is not dumb. He’s not going to see PDX lusting after OG and think “damn, maybe I’m under valuing OG”. He’s too smart for that.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1226 » by Kreamy » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:57 pm

Based on the rumors, sounds like Portland's 7th pick or Deandre Ayton are possible options in a trade for OG.
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Post#1227 » by Spida888 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:07 pm

As per wiretap, POR is talking to OKC - #7 for Dort + #12. Giving up Dort for just moving up 5 spots seems like an overpay, but he is an expiring and OKC has worked out Sharpe and is supposedly pretty high on him.

Sharpe likely isn't there by #12 but may be there at #7. I could see this happening more so than an OG deal for #7. My wish is Trent + sweeteners will somehow land us one of Sharpe/Mathurin :pray:.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1228 » by Slackstring701 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:42 pm

I don't want to see OG traded ...

What's Portlands best offer

Josh Hart
Nassir Little
Keon Johnson
2022 #7 pick
2022 #36 pick
2025 Bucks 1st Rd pick

for

OG Annunoby


Does anyone here like that? OG is such a unique piece. Hope he is around for the long haul.
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Post#1229 » by Jcity08 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:01 pm

Scottie was being real about how he felt, you got a reporter putting out that one of his teammates is dissatisfied and you expect silence from Scottie?
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1230 » by HumbleRen » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:09 pm

Jcity08 wrote:Scottie was being real about how he felt, you got a reporter putting out that one of his teammates is dissatisfied and you expect silence from Scottie?


He's gotta learn how to ignore the noise as he gets more mature. If someone wants to clear the air, OG is more than welcome to speak up.
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Post#1231 » by NotMyKawhi » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Slackstring701 wrote:I don't want to see OG traded ...

What's Portlands best offer

Josh Hart
Nassir Little
Keon Johnson
2022 #7 pick
2022 #36 pick
2025 Bucks 1st Rd pick

for

OG Annunoby


Does anyone here like that? OG is such a unique piece. Hope he is around for the long haul.

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you should be fired on the spot if you don't accept that offer
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1232 » by pagal » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:19 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:Scottie was being real about how he felt, you got a reporter putting out that one of his teammates is dissatisfied and you expect silence from Scottie?


He's gotta learn how to ignore the noise as he gets more mature. If someone wants to clear the air, OG is more than welcome to speak up.


I agree with you but Fisher is just speculating based on no evidence whatsoever and knowing how fragile a lot of young players are, last thing you need is to have disgruntled players on a young team.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1233 » by Jcity08 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:24 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:Scottie was being real about how he felt, you got a reporter putting out that one of his teammates is dissatisfied and you expect silence from Scottie?


He's gotta learn how to ignore the noise as he gets more mature. If someone wants to clear the air, OG is more than welcome to speak up.


He didnt say anything that crossed a line though. I prefer his candidness personally.

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I personally see nothing wrong with what he said, he's not a robot, he can feel some type of way about it.

Theres instances where I'd agree a player should ignore the noise but in this particular instance I see nothing wrong.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1234 » by Ell Curry » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:24 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
Slackstring701 wrote:I don't want to see OG traded ...

What's Portlands best offer

Josh Hart
Nassir Little
Keon Johnson
2022 #7 pick
2022 #36 pick
2025 Bucks 1st Rd pick

for

OG Annunoby


Does anyone here like that? OG is such a unique piece. Hope he is around for the long haul.

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you should be fired on the spot if you don't accept that offer


The Median draft picks from the Ringer:

6 7.7 Nerlens Noel, Willie Cauley-Stein
7 7.2 Corey Brewer, Randy Foye
8 6.8 Stanley Johnson, Frank Ntilikina

Add in literally any of those guys, even with a slight bump for Masai drafting, and the trade looks kinda bad now!

Ultimately I trust Masai. If he is in love with someone available at 7 AND thinks OG wants to explore free agency in 2 years rather than sign his 120% max extension next summer (I think starts at only 22M so he might not) than I could see it. This is probably the high point of OG's value with teams like Portland and Sacramento having top 10 picks and desperate for a guy like him, though teams will always be desperate for a guy with OG's profile. Also may come down to what Masai could move the draft pick for. Like is Shai, Mitchell or another #2 scoring option possible?
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1235 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:01 am

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tecumseh18 wrote:Here's a scenario - the team's target has long been SGA. It doesn't make sense for OKC to keep him AND Giddey. If Dort is being moved to upgrade a lottery pick (in a weak draft), then at a certain point Shai (and his max contract) just doesn't make sense for the Thunder to keep around.

Shai for OG was a pipe dream last summer. But if the Raps can drive OG's value up around the league, is it crazy to suggest that OKC may make a move to balance their roster? OG would look really good catching passes from Giddey.


I gotta say, this makes no sense.


A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

ConSarnit wrote:We have no idea if Shai is a target. All those rumors are from nobodies on sites like Raptors Rapture. Literally the only reason Shai gets tied to Toronto is because he’s Canadian.


Everybody on this board (except you, apparently) knows that Masai tried to trade into the 2018 draft to grab SGA. You think he's less of a target now?


Also, Shai is a pg/sg and Giddey is a sf.


Giddey is listed as a PG/SG (same as Shai) on every major site - ESPN, Wikipedia, NBA.com. But forget that. In an era of positionless basketball, they both are primary ball handlers. Sure, you can't have too many of them, but sometimes too many cooks spoil the broth.

They will almost certainly draft a 4 or 5 at #2. OKC also has no salary tied up so Shai on a max means nothing to them. He’s also 23. How does he possibly not fit on the current OKC roster?


The issue is whether it makes sense to have redundancy at the position of long primary ball handler, when you could swap one for a guy like OG (plus draft capital) who brings a whole 'nother set of skills.

Finally, Presti is not dumb. He’s not going to see PDX lusting after OG and think “damn, maybe I’m under valuing OG”. He’s too smart for that.


This is the guy who gave away Harden (and a virtually certain championship) for nothing because he wanted to avoid the tax, then went into the tax anyway. People make mistakes. Also, some execs hate whiners - e.g. if SGA through his agent starts complaining about the Thunder's continued focus on development and tanking. That's how the Jays got JD from the A's for nothing - after he pissed off the great Billy Beane. Hell, Presti has never even had a book or movie made about him.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1236 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:12 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
XTC wrote:Watching what Wiggins did in the finals, makes me not want to trade OG anymore.


cept Wiggins is way more coordinated, has handles on the offensive end.

OG change my mind lol if he can handle the ball like an NBA guard and not lose his balance all the time, sure, he would be an all star right now.


You think Wiggins impact was on the offensive end or the defensive end??

I haven't even looked at Wiggins % but last I read it was 45% range which is avg, slightly above avg. I can envision OG playing a similar role. Yes Wiggins is the better offensive player, so we agree there but they operate differently with similar results
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Post#1237 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:34 am

Portland wants him so bad lol. He's not going anywhere but lets see what these suckers pay up on draft night
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Post#1238 » by JustWin » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:14 am

I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down
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Post#1239 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:22 am

JustWin wrote:I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down


Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs
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Post#1240 » by deeps6x » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:48 am

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JustWin wrote:I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down


Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs


Agreed. You need guys who can create their own offence, like Gary, but you also need guys who can shut down those guys on the other team.

OG (and Gary) are both young and will improve. There is no need to trade either. Especially for draft picks.
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