2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[BoyzNTheHood]

It’s not just that this pick likely conveys, it’s also that next year’s presumably won’t be a high pick either.

We continue to throw away opportunities to draft higher end talent for minimal upgrades smh

The trade is amazing value. A starter calibre Centre plus a 2022 lottery pick for a scrub, a guy who has real estate in the hospital, and a late first round pick.

Again…what were sacrificing is a high pick in this draft AND next year’s, don’t forget that part and for what to be a mid team yet again and moving forward?!?

You think adding Olynyk cures all of our ills and makes us mid again? We’re trash and will be for the rest of this season. The 2024 Raptors first round pick will be made by the Raptors unless the lottery screws us.

[PhilBlackson]

The trade is amazing value. A starter calibre Centre plus a 2022 lottery pick for a scrub, a guy who has real estate in the hospital, and a late first round pick.

Again…what were sacrificing is a high pick in this draft AND next year’s, don’t forget that part and for what to be a mid team yet again and moving forward?!?

You think adding Olynyk cures all of our ills and makes us mid again? We’re trash and will be for the rest of this season. The 2024 Raptors first round pick will be made by the Raptors unless the lottery screws us.

Sooooo somehow you like this trade yet think at the same time it doesn’t improve us….that makes no sense.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Again…what were sacrificing is a high pick in this draft AND next year’s, don’t forget that part and for what to be a mid team yet again and moving forward?!?

You think adding Olynyk cures all of our ills and makes us mid again? We’re trash and will be for the rest of this season. The 2024 Raptors first round pick will be made by the Raptors unless the lottery screws us.

Sooooo somehow you like this trade yet think at the same time it doesn’t improve us….that makes no sense.

Did I say that? Reading is essential. I said Olynyk doesn’t make us a mid team again. He makes us better, but not THAT much better without additional pieces. It’s like how we sucked without Jak, then when he came back we were better but still aren’t a great, or even good team overall. The same applies here. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp.

[PhilBlackson]

You think adding Olynyk cures all of our ills and makes us mid again? We’re trash and will be for the rest of this season. The 2024 Raptors first round pick will be made by the Raptors unless the lottery screws us.

Sooooo somehow you like this trade yet think at the same time it doesn’t improve us….that makes no sense.

Did I say that? Reading is essential. I said Olynyk doesn’t make us a mid team again. He makes us better, but not THAT much better without additional pieces. It’s like how we sucked without Jak, then when he came back we were better but still aren’t a great, or even good team overall. The same applies here. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp.

Nor is it difficult to grasp that it still makes our pick worse in both years - the irony of saying reading is essential lol

[BoyzNTheHood]

Sooooo somehow you like this trade yet think at the same time it doesn’t improve us….that makes no sense.

Did I say that? Reading is essential. I said Olynyk doesn’t make us a mid team again. He makes us better, but not THAT much better without additional pieces. It’s like how we sucked without Jak, then when he came back we were better but still aren’t a great, or even good team overall. The same applies here. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp.

Nor is it difficult to grasp that it still makes our pick worse in both years - the irony of saying reading is essential lol

The irony is that you can’t grasp the simplest of concepts. Olynyk doesn’t automatically make us better than Memphis, Brooklyn, or Atlanta. We should still be the 5th or 6th worst team. The fact that you’re this salty about the 29th pick is wild. The guy we get at 29 won’t be better than Olynyk or Agbaji.

[Rapsfan07]

Did I say that? Reading is essential. I said Olynyk doesn’t make us a mid team again. He makes us better, but not THAT much better without additional pieces. It’s like how we sucked without Jak, then when he came back we were better but still aren’t a great, or even good team overall. The same applies here. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp.

Nor is it difficult to grasp that it still makes our pick worse in both years - the irony of saying reading is essential lol

The irony is that you can’t grasp the simplest of concepts. Olynyk doesn’t automatically make us better than Memphis, Brooklyn, or Atlanta. We should still be the 5th or 6th worst team. The fact that you’re this salty about the 29th pick is wild. The guy we get at 29 won’t be better than Olynyk or Agbaji.

To be fair to Phil, first of all - no one knows that yet. Second, that's not the point.

Even if you're right, this trade has the potential to make us better when that isn't what we need right now.

Not to mention that Olynyk is expiring.

[PhilBlackson]

Did I say that? Reading is essential. I said Olynyk doesn’t make us a mid team again. He makes us better, but not THAT much better without additional pieces. It’s like how we sucked without Jak, then when he came back we were better but still aren’t a great, or even good team overall. The same applies here. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp.

Nor is it difficult to grasp that it still makes our pick worse in both years - the irony of saying reading is essential lol

The irony is that you can’t grasp the simplest of concepts. Olynyk doesn’t automatically make us better than Memphis, Brooklyn, or Atlanta. We should still be the 5th or 6th worst team. The fact that you’re this salty about the 29th pick is wild. The guy we get at 29 won’t be better than Olynyk or Agbaji.

You’re adding to the irony of not reading lol not once did I complain about keeping the 29th pick to use it so this unnecessary “salty” claim which is again ironic to be calling someone that (which is actually salty lol) just because you’re getting in your usual feelings any time someone doesn’t agree with you.

You believe somehow us adding depth does or does not improve us?! Yes or no? Also you think this will be the only move we make to improve over the next year and half lol come on now, think this through more

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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He's so undersized as a combo-guard that doesn't shoot that well. His A/T isn't great for a guard. Is he going to be much better than Javon Freeman-Liberty? I'd go with JFL as the 3rd PG/SG next season.

I would consider Devin Carter with the late 1st but now that it's traded, definitely not using the Pacers pick on him.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Nor is it difficult to grasp that it still makes our pick worse in both years - the irony of saying reading is essential lol

The irony is that you can’t grasp the simplest of concepts. Olynyk doesn’t automatically make us better than Memphis, Brooklyn, or Atlanta. We should still be the 5th or 6th worst team. The fact that you’re this salty about the 29th pick is wild. The guy we get at 29 won’t be better than Olynyk or Agbaji.

You’re adding to the irony of not reading lol not once did I complain about keeping the 29th pick to use it so this unnecessary “salty” claim which is again ironic to be calling someone that (which is actually salty lol) just because you’re getting in your usual feelings any time someone doesn’t agree with you.

You believe somehow us adding depth does or does not improve us?! Yes or no? Also you think this will be the only move we make to improve over the next year and half lol come on now, think this through more

You’re literally too ignorant to discuss this with, but of course you’re more of an expert than Masai so we’ll just go with whatever you say from now on. Or, stay with me, maybe Masai had a longer term plan like the tank! You actually thought adding Olynyk made us SO much better that we’d lose our pick? Oh wait, we no longer have a backup point guard! Learn basketball and the business of basketball, and try your best to stay out of your feelings next time. Thanks.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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He's so undersized as a combo-guard that doesn't shoot that well. His A/T isn't great for a guard. Is he going to be much better than Javon Freeman-Liberty? I'd go with JFL as the 3rd PG/SG next season.

I would consider Devin Carter with the late 1st but now that it's traded, definitely not using the Pacers pick on him.

Honestly I wouldn't even worry about what his size is given how his wingspan appears long and how he's a good athlete with functional strength. I would definitely consider him with Pacers pick as it stands, most of the guards projected to go in that area of the draft are pretty short as well. None of the other guards I see really "play bigger" than they are, like Carter does.

[WuTang_CMB]

We likely lose our pick to SA

So we got 18-20 Indiana pick

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31st Detroit pick

I'll take Devin Carter. We need to replenish our guards

[RoteSchroder]

The trade is amazing value. A starter calibre Centre plus a 2022 lottery pick for a scrub, a guy who has real estate in the hospital, and a late first round pick.

Again…what were sacrificing is a high pick in this draft AND next year’s, don’t forget that part and for what to be a mid team yet again and moving forward?!?

You think adding Olynyk cures all of our ills and makes us mid again? We’re trash and will be for the rest of this season. The 2024 Raptors first round pick will be made by the Raptors unless the lottery screws us.

Team has already been pretty mid with a fully health roster. We enjoyed a large losing streak with Poeltl/RJ Barrett/Quickley out. But one of our tank commanders, Jontay, isn't even playing anymore and we can't get away with an undersized Thad at C anymore either.

Raptors are 4-2 when they have both Poeltl and RJ in the line-up. The losses include:

5 pt loss against SAC
OT loss against OKC

At the same time, the only win against a good team was versus Cleveland (other three were GSW, Memphis, Charlotte)

It would be hard for the Raps to out-suck the Grizzlies fully healthy, which means they could end up #7 before the lottery balls. Unless we do some active tanking, I would say go for the play-in and get our pick back next year.

[disoblige]

Our FO said today, we will be losing our pick to SA. They probably decided not to risk our pick for next year. TWO is dead for now.

edit: "its going to SA". May be I misunderstood. It was weirdly phrased.

[Psubs]

The NBA gave the Spurs Wemby when really they should've given him to Charlotte as they were the only bottom franchise to have zero championships. The Spurs already have their poor 1st pick; they should just give Toronto #4 again.

#1 Washington/Charlotte - Cody Wiliams
#2 Washington/Charlotte - Sarr/Risacher
#3 San Antonio - Sarr/Risacher
#4 Toronto - Topic, Reed Sheppard, Ron Holland, Rob Dillingham, Ja'Kobe Walter
#5 Detroit - Topic, Reed Sheppard, Ron Holland, Rob Dillingham, Ja'Kobe Walter
#6 Portland - Topic, Reed Sheppard, Ron Holland, Rob Dillingham, Ja'Kobe Walter
#7 Memphis - Topic, Reed Sheppard, Ron Holland, Rob Dillingham, Ja'Kobe Walter

I think after the top 8 it's more of a crap shoot. Maybe Stephon Castle, Matas Buzelis?

For the Pacers pick, I hope that one of Tidjane Salaun, Johnny Furphy, Kel'el Ware, Dalto Knect, Fillipowski, or Ivisic are still on the board. That's 16 players I've listed and the Pacers pick is #18 right now, so pretty good odds.

[Rapsfan07]

Our FO said today, we will be losing our pick to SA. They probably decided not to risk our pick for next year. TWO is dead for now.

I don't recall Bobby saying that.

What I heard was if we end up Top 6 then fine. If we don't, that's fine too. But they aren't going to play for lottery positions, they'll leave it up to the lotto balls.

My worry with the Olynyk trade is there is a non-zero chance that he improves our record enough to ensure that pick is conveyed, while not helping us be particularly competitive and could easily sign with a contender in the summer.

Now obviously the other part of the deal is getting Ochai but he really hasn't shown much so far, despite being a lottery pick. Not to mention our guard rotation is overstocked.

Just feels like if you were going to trade Schroeder and a 1st, you should have been able to get back better than Ochai and an expiring Olynyk.

[alpngso]

Give me Ryan Dunn from UVA. The only guy to match Thybulle and Herb Jones number as a sophomore in terms of STL+BLK
True POA defender next to Scottie. He can't shoot but that's who Masai and Bobby like usually

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[RoteSchroder]

The NBA gave the Spurs Wemby when really they should've given him to Charlotte as they were the only bottom franchise to have zero championships. The Spurs already have their poor 1st pick; they should just give Toronto #4 again.

Makes more sense to give Wemby to the Spurs. You don't want to risk the development of a potential superstar big and future face of the league that will rack in dough for years to come.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Are any of those guards mocked to us in the top 6 guys that can play next big next to IQ? If we're mocked to take a 6'3 guy because he's BPA then I'd rather trade the pick on draft day

Even in the Pacers range there are some C left, but no one that looks like a year 1 difference maker

[DG88]

Our FO said today, we will be losing our pick to SA. They probably decided not to risk our pick for next year. TWO is dead for now.

edit: "its going to SA". May be I misunderstood. It was weirdly phrased.

What he was saying was that regardless of getting worse or better you're still under the gun of the lottery balls. No point in playing a game of chicken. If we convey we convey if we don't we don't. I personally would rather get it over with. Not as enthused with this draft after looking at the prospects in the top 10. I think there are some good role players that can be had with the Pacers pick and project with the Detroit pick. Next year we're still going to be bad anyways so we'll still have a lottery pick to add to this core and whatever we get in a future Brown trade.