2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

TimeForChange · Post #1221 » by **TimeForChange** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:25 am

anotherhomer wrote:there's still a strong chance we give Spurs our top pick

we can only hope

XTC · Post #1222 » by **XTC** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:29 am

bballsparkin wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:Whoah, stats! Watch the game. He's barely noticeable against a tiny front line with no rim protection. No wonder you had to make a new account. lol

He seems like a safe pick. Like a sure fire 10 year career player. That's pretty good to get. Not sure how high he should go. And when I check mock drafts they are all over the place this year.

I really like his motor TBH, and he has underrated passing instinct, his length is worrisome however.

He's hard to read. He could be another Cody Zeller, or he could become another Sabonis. Heck he might even become a steal if he falls in between Zeller and Sabonis.

ill-Will03 · Post #1223 » by **ill-Will03** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:29 am

anotherhomer wrote:there's still a strong chance we give Spurs our top pick

Do you know what the percentages are? I been trying to look it up and can’t seem to get a definite answer.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1224 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:29 am

XTC wrote:
grant101 wrote:Tyon Grant-Foster is the type of player Miami drafts and turns into a star role-player. Not sure if anyone in this draft plays as hard. Great length and athleticism as well. Still rough around the edges and tries to do too much, but I'd love to buy a 2nd round pick and bring him onto the squad (he'll have his pick of the litter as a UDFA)

The typical Miami player is definitely Devin Carter and I've been wondering the past couple weeks if he's the move at #15.

He screams Danny Green to me. He's going to be an elite 3+D at the NBA level. Averaged 1.1 blocks last season, 1.0 blocks this year and he shot 38% from college at 7 attempts per game. He is a little bit older at 22, but he's exactly the type of guy who gets overlooked in every draft, and then teams go how did we miss this guy.

Devin Carter is definitely one of the most Heat type picks out there. I'd say McCain and Holmes are also Riley types.

Mark_83 · Post #1225 » by **Mark_83** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:39 am

I haven't watched Alabama this year, is Sears a player to follow? He's small and a Senior but shooting 50/43/86 and averaging 21/4/4/1.6 a game.

Watch on YouTube

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Watch on YouTube

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XTC · Post #1226 » by **XTC** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:41 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
XTC wrote:
grant101 wrote:Tyon Grant-Foster is the type of player Miami drafts and turns into a star role-player. Not sure if anyone in this draft plays as hard. Great length and athleticism as well. Still rough around the edges and tries to do too much, but I'd love to buy a 2nd round pick and bring him onto the squad (he'll have his pick of the litter as a UDFA)

The typical Miami player is definitely Devin Carter and I've been wondering the past couple weeks if he's the move at #15.

He screams Danny Green to me. He's going to be an elite 3+D at the NBA level. Averaged 1.1 blocks last season, 1.0 blocks this year and he shot 38% from college at 7 attempts per game. He is a little bit older at 22, but he's exactly the type of guy who gets overlooked in every draft, and then teams go how did we miss this guy.

Devin Carter is definitely one of the most Heat type picks out there. I'd say McCain and Holmes are also Riley types.

He's one of the guys I really want with the Pacers pick. Lots of Marcus Smart, Derrick White, and Danny Green in his game.

I'm a sucker for defenders however. I was pretty high on Davion Mitchell, but at the same time his defensive tools + playmaking was another huge reason why I wanted Barnes at #4.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1227 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:46 am

XTC wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
XTC wrote:
The typical Miami player is definitely Devin Carter and I've been wondering the past couple weeks if he's the move at #15.

He screams Danny Green to me. He's going to be an elite 3+D at the NBA level. Averaged 1.1 blocks last season, 1.0 blocks this year and he shot 38% from college at 7 attempts per game. He is a little bit older at 22, but he's exactly the type of guy who gets overlooked in every draft, and then teams go how did we miss this guy.

Devin Carter is definitely one of the most Heat type picks out there. I'd say McCain and Holmes are also Riley types.

He's one of the guys I really want with the Pacers pick. Lots of Marcus Smart, Derrick White, and Danny Green in his game.

I'm a sucker for defenders however. I was pretty high on Davion Mitchell, but at the same time his defensive tools + playmaking was another huge reason why I wanted Barnes at #4.

Davion's defense at Baylor was absolutely insane but the 3pt shooting relative to FT% was very concerning especially considering the sample size of 3's. It's the same reason why there should be considerable skepticism regarding the 3 point shooting of guys like Risacher and Cody Williams in that they could very well just be NBA average 3 point shooters.

grant101 · Post #1228 » by **grant101** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:48 am

XTC wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
XTC wrote:
The typical Miami player is definitely Devin Carter and I've been wondering the past couple weeks if he's the move at #15.

He screams Danny Green to me. He's going to be an elite 3+D at the NBA level. Averaged 1.1 blocks last season, 1.0 blocks this year and he shot 38% from college at 7 attempts per game. He is a little bit older at 22, but he's exactly the type of guy who gets overlooked in every draft, and then teams go how did we miss this guy.

Devin Carter is definitely one of the most Heat type picks out there. I'd say McCain and Holmes are also Riley types.

He's one of the guys I really want with the Pacers pick. Lots of Marcus Smart, Derrick White, and Danny Green in his game.

I'm a sucker for defenders however. I was pretty high on Davion Mitchell, but at the same time his defensive tools + playmaking was another huge reason why I wanted Barnes at #4.

Devin absolutely deserves to be drafted around 17, buy I don't love the fit with Quickley TBH. Two small combo guards is not ideal. Wouldn't be mad at the pick, but would definitely have questions about the vision for this roster

Mark_83 · Post #1229 » by **Mark_83** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:53 am

grant101 wrote:
Devin absolutely deserves to be drafted around 17, buy I don't love the fit with Quickley TBH. Two small combo guards is not ideal. Wouldn't be mad at the pick, but would definitely have questions about the vision for this roster

I've been a fan of his for a while but he's a lot like Bruce Brown, which as we've seen hasn't been a great fit so far. He's gonna have to prove the shooting improvement translates to NBA range, but he's a winning type player.

bballsparkin · Post #1230 » by **bballsparkin** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:59 am

ill-Will03 wrote:
Do you know what the percentages are? I been trying to look it up and can’t seem to get a definite answer.

https://tankathon.com/pick_odds

It looks like a 46 percent chance of keeping it at 6th according to my calculations based on tankathon.

XTC · Post #1231 » by **XTC** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:03 am

grant101 wrote:
XTC wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Devin Carter is definitely one of the most Heat type picks out there. I'd say McCain and Holmes are also Riley types.

He's one of the guys I really want with the Pacers pick. Lots of Marcus Smart, Derrick White, and Danny Green in his game.

I'm a sucker for defenders however. I was pretty high on Davion Mitchell, but at the same time his defensive tools + playmaking was another huge reason why I wanted Barnes at #4.

Devin absolutely deserves to be drafted around 17, buy I don't love the fit with Quickley TBH. Two small combo guards is not ideal. Wouldn't be mad at the pick, but would definitely have questions about the vision for this roster

Quickley has a 6-8 wingspan, and while there are no official reports Devin Carter appears to be quite lanky for his size, would not be surprised if he has a 6-10 wingspan. I think the pairing could work IF we selected Carter. I mean if Garland and Mitchell where the starting back court on one of the better eastern conference teams (6-5 wingspan and 6-10 wingspan respectively) IQ and Carter would be far from undersized.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1232 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:30 am

Ya i can see the poeltl comparison

Read on Twitter

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VanWest82 · Post #1233 » by **VanWest82** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:38 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Ya i can see the poeltl comparison
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter
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I have to disagree. Poeltl coming into the league as a ballerina of big men. Amazing feet. This guy moves in cement but had a moment. Nice game. I don't think that's going to work in NBA.

XTC · Post #1234 » by **XTC** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:49 am

VanWest82 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Ya i can see the poeltl comparison
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

I have to disagree. Poeltl coming into the league as a ballerina of big men. Amazing feet. This guy moves in cement but had a moment. Nice game. I don't think that's going to work in NBA.

I really thought I was the only one who noticed how light on his feet Poeltl is. I really do think if he was on a better team he would be getting DPOY consideration. Poeltl also has one of the best motors for any big man in the NBA.

I do see why Clingan gets the Poeltl comparisons, but he does lack the foot speed Poeltl has. A better comparison would be Kessler IMO.

bballsparkin · Post #1235 » by **bballsparkin** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:52 am

VanWest82 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Ya i can see the poeltl comparison
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

I have to disagree. Poeltl coming into the league as a ballerina of big men. Amazing feet. This guy moves in cement but had a moment. Nice game. I don't think that's going to work in NBA.

He's taller and already heavier than Jakob. I sure hope he works out in the NBA. We need more legit bigs. And with Wemby and Chet emerging size matters.

VanWest82 · Post #1236 » by **VanWest82** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:08 am

bballsparkin wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Ya i can see the poeltl comparison
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

I have to disagree. Poeltl coming into the league as a ballerina of big men. Amazing feet. This guy moves in cement but had a moment. Nice game. I don't think that's going to work in NBA.

He's taller and already heavier than Jakob. I sure hope he works out in the NBA. We need more legit bigs. And with Wemby and Chet emerging size matters.

Size definitely matters but if you look at what works now it's size + feet + skill. There are few if any big guys who can't move but are good.

bballsparkin · Post #1237 » by **bballsparkin** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:12 am

^^He moves better than Edey. We shall see. NBA pace is crazy fast. He might have to slim down. If he can.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1238 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:15 am

VanWest82 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Ya i can see the poeltl comparison
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

I have to disagree. Poeltl coming into the league as a ballerina of big men. Amazing feet. This guy moves in cement but had a moment. Nice game. I don't think that's going to work in NBA.

The current Poeltl is slower than his younger years

VanWest82 · Post #1239 » by **VanWest82** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:16 am

Edey isn't going to work either anymore than Boban did near the end. It works as a short-lived, change-of-pace move.

Indeed · Post #1240 » by **Indeed** » Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:19 am

bballsparkin wrote:
ill-Will03 wrote:
Do you know what the percentages are? I been trying to look it up and can’t seem to get a definite answer.

https://tankathon.com/pick_odds

It looks like a 46 percent chance of keeping it at 6th according to my calculations based on tankathon.

You mean 50% being 7th or 8th?
The chance of not having the pick is higher.