2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

And it's not like Edey is a 23 or 24 year old senior, he's a young 22 on draft night. There's room for development and there are solid reports on his shooting. If he starts popping off screens and adding in some 3 point shots here and there to keep defenses honest it's going to be awesome because the popping will keep defenders honest for the roll and lob catch at the rim. You can't put it past him because he has solid touch on his FT's with a nice high arc that usually increases the floor of the % of makes and should be indicative of at least the ability to be near average at hitting jumpers.

Edey is not a brick thrower he actually has some real touch on his shot, he needs to practice his ass off but there's something there unlike many centers who enter the league shooting 50-60% from the line with broken form.

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A lot of Edey's success will depend on the whistle at the NBA level. Raps haven't had a free throw merchant the likes of Edey since Demar and putting other bigs and wings in foul trouble is a very useful tactic if you have perimeter players who can put the ball on the floor and drive while the driving threat opens the distance shooting.

This is a 2x NPOTY, Purdue went 34-5 and his teammates weren't great, he's surrounded by legendary big men in the record books, has improved every year both in skill and conditioning, only started playing at 15, would be .25 inches short of the tallest/longest player in the entire league in Wemby, no injury history.

I don't care about what people think his defense will be like when his offensive production is insane. You win by scoring more points than you give up and that's exactly what Edey does. It's just a question of will he be able to bully NBA bigs and if he can, he might even be the answer to Wemby who is a paperweight.

Nothing is guaranteed but it's a bet worth making.

If he can be Boban with longevity on offense, and Jak on defense he’d be one of the best Centres in the league. Above Gobert, below the obvious guys like Joker, and the free throw merchant.

If he turns out like Zubac for example, that’s one hell of a pick at 19.

The way I see it, why would you take Edey who is an elite interior scorer and limit him in that regard to Zubac type of volume. I'm pretty confident Edey is a way better offensive rebounder and way more of a load inside with his +60 lb weight advantage which could have him at a career FTr +.100 greater than Zubac for sure. If you have weak defending wings or centers on your team forget it, he will destroy switches or destroy 1v1s vs the bigs in those scenarios and many players will need to hack him - think Pascal Siakam hand checking him in the low post - we know who is winning that matchup 7.5 times out 10. Edey is not going to fail in these matchups with his insane size and touch.

Also seems like he might have a better BLK rate than Zubac. Once you start adding it all up, better ORB%, BLK%, FTr., TS%, volume you start wondering why there are so many Zubac comps in the first place. I don't wanna place any limitations on what Edey can possibly achieve in the NBA.

He could be Yao with less touch around the basket.

Edey put up 37 pts 10 rebs on Clingan and co in the championship game. Clingan put up 11 pts 5 rebs with 4 fouls.

[BoyzNTheHood]

A lot of Edey's success will depend on the whistle at the NBA level. Raps haven't had a free throw merchant the likes of Edey since Demar and putting other bigs and wings in foul trouble is a very useful tactic if you have perimeter players who can put the ball on the floor and drive while the driving threat opens the distance shooting.

This is a 2x NPOTY, Purdue went 34-5 and his teammates weren't great, he's surrounded by legendary big men in the record books, has improved every year both in skill and conditioning, only started playing at 15, would be .25 inches short of the tallest/longest player in the entire league in Wemby, no injury history.

I don't care about what people think his defense will be like when his offensive production is insane. You win by scoring more points than you give up and that's exactly what Edey does. It's just a question of will he be able to bully NBA bigs and if he can, he might even be the answer to Wemby who is a paperweight.

Nothing is guaranteed but it's a bet worth making.

If he can be Boban with longevity on offense, and Jak on defense he’d be one of the best Centres in the league. Above Gobert, below the obvious guys like Joker, and the free throw merchant.

If he turns out like Zubac for example, that’s one hell of a pick at 19.

The way I see it, why would you take Edey who is an elite interior scorer and limit him in that regard to Zubac type of volume. I'm pretty confident Edey is a way better offensive rebounder and way more of a load inside with his +60 lb weight advantage which could have him at a career FTr +.100 greater than Zubac for sure. If you have weak defending wings or centers on your team forget it, he will destroy switches or destroy 1v1s vs the bigs in those scenarios and many players will need to hack him - think Pascal Siakam hand checking him in the low post - we know who is winning that matchup 7.5 times out 10. Edey is not going to fail in these matchups with his insane size and touch.

Also seems like he might have a better BLK rate than Zubac. Once you start adding it all up, better ORB%, BLK%, FTr., TS%, volume you start wondering why there are so many Zubac comps in the first place. I don't wanna place any limitations on what Edey can possibly achieve in the NBA.

Not saying he’s Zubac. I’m saying if his floor is Zubac then you’re winning with that pick at 19.

[C_Money]

It all comes down to Edey’s pick n roll defence. If he’s anything like JV on that end then it really limits how much you can play him.

[alpngso]

Damn Jaylon Tyson and Kolek at 19? holy..

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Edey can be a much more dominant offensive player than JV since JV doesn't get to the charity stripe a lot and if so his defense is more excusable.

As much as people want to think the modern NBA is all about 3 pointers the fact remains analytically that the FT line is #1, rim is #2 and 3 point line is #3 in terms of most efficient areas to score from and so there's no reason that a creative team can't find a way to make Edey their offensive centerpiece without compromising what mathematics tells you is necessary to win a game.

The question is how much gravity will Edey carry in the post and how proficient will he become at enabling perimeter shooters. But there HAS to be creative ways to use him just as all NBA teams find ways to enable their stars.

For one I think Edey would fit like a GLOVE in Portland and would synergize very well with Scoot Henderson given what Scoot is actually decent at on the court. You would need to then just surround them with some defensive minded wings and you're good to go IMO. Imagine a Scoot-Flagg-Edey lineup going forward. Edey could save Scoot's career with his screening and soft hands.

[Dalek]

Edey can be a much more dominant offensive player than JV since JV doesn't get to the charity stripe a lot and if so his defense is more excusable.

As much as people want to think the modern NBA is all about 3 pointers the fact remains analytically that the FT line is #1, rim is #2 and 3 point line is #3 in terms of most efficient areas to score from and so there's no reason that a creative team can't find a way to make Edey their offensive centerpiece without compromising what mathematics tells you is necessary to win a game.

The question is how much gravity will Edey carry in the post and how proficient will he become at enabling perimeter shooters. But there HAS to be creative ways to use him just as all NBA teams find ways to enable their stars.

For one I think Edey would fit like a GLOVE in Portland and would synergize very well with Scoot Henderson given what Scoot is actually decent at on the court. You would need to then just surround them with some defensive minded wings and you're good to go IMO. Imagine a Scoot-Flagg-Edey lineup going forward. Edey could save Scoot's career with his screening and soft hands.

Doesn't Portland have DeAndre Ayton who screens and boards and does all the big man things? He is not Edey's size but he is pretty close to it. I actually think it is worth bringing up Ayton as an example of how the dominant big man can fail to equal success. Ayton and guys like Nurkic all look physical and put up big numbers, but they just don't add up to wins. A guy like Klingan is thought to be number one because he can actually defend and pass beyond the offensive scoring in the paint.

I will give Edey props that he helped Purdue's shooters as people sucked into the paint, but the lack of three in the key is a factor. He will have to adjust to the rule in the NBA.

[Dalek]

Damn Jaylon Tyson and Kolek at 19? holy..

Both of those players are real options to me. I really want Kolek. Clearly the most skilled PG in the class. Super strong and high IQ, crafty and can shoot and has otherworldly pick and roll passing. He is going to be a great back-up for IQ and a change of pace.

Draft a short roll big like Oso Ighodaro, Flip, Missi, or Tyler Smith at 31 and you have a nice two man combo to fill the bench. My darkhorse is Josh Oduro who played with Kolek at George Mason. No shock to me that we worked out Oduro. Those two remain pretty close.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Damn Jaylon Tyson and Kolek at 19? holy..

Both of those players are real options to me. I really want Kolek. Clearly the most skilled PG in the class. Super strong and high IQ, crafty and can shoot and has otherworldly pick and roll passing. He is going to be a great back-up for IQ and a change of pace.

Draft a short roll big like Oso Ighodaro, Flip, Missi, or Tyler Smith at 31 and you have a nice two man combo to fill the bench.

And Tyson, the best bucket getter in this draft.

[deeps6x]

Just some perspective on this 'bad' draft.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/19th-overall-draft-picks-nba

If we land Edey, Filipowski, Ware, Bub, whatever at #19, the BEST we can likely hope for is that he winds up being as good as the top two players on this list. Odds are, #19 in this draft winds up looking closer like the bottom half of the players on this list.

So if someone thinks (Edey, Filipowski, Ware, Bub, whatever) can even be a good rotation player, or a great situational player, or a sixth or seventh man, then that should be good enough to take them. Don't cross your fingers and hope you are drafting a Gianis or Jokic at this level.

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[Johnston]

Edey can be a much more dominant offensive player than JV since JV doesn't get to the charity stripe a lot and if so his defense is more excusable.

As much as people want to think the modern NBA is all about 3 pointers the fact remains analytically that the FT line is #1, rim is #2 and 3 point line is #3 in terms of most efficient areas to score from and so there's no reason that a creative team can't find a way to make Edey their offensive centerpiece without compromising what mathematics tells you is necessary to win a game.

The question is how much gravity will Edey carry in the post and how proficient will he become at enabling perimeter shooters. But there HAS to be creative ways to use him just as all NBA teams find ways to enable their stars.

For one I think Edey would fit like a GLOVE in Portland and would synergize very well with Scoot Henderson given what Scoot is actually decent at on the court. You would need to then just surround them with some defensive minded wings and you're good to go IMO. Imagine a Scoot-Flagg-Edey lineup going forward. Edey could save Scoot's career with his screening and soft hands.

Doesn't Portland have DeAndre Ayton who screens and boards and does all the big man things? He is not Edey's size but he is pretty close to it. I actually think it is worth bringing up Ayton as an example of how the dominant big man can fail to equal success. Ayton and guys like Nurkic all look physical and put up big numbers, but they just don't add up to wins. A guy like Klingan is thought to be number one because he can actually defend and pass beyond the offensive scoring in the paint.

I will give Edey props that he helped Purdue's shooters as people sucked into the paint, but the lack of three in the key is a factor. He will have to adjust to the rule in the NBA.

What you forget to mention is Ayton hates basketball. He is there for the cheque. Edey has improved exponentially every year and seems very keen. Ayton with a good attitude is a franchis player. He is just disinterested.

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[OakleyDokely]

Potential undrafted FA.

Nae'Qwan Tomlin, 23 years old, 6'8.25 without shoes, 7'2.50 wingspan, 205 lbs
26.9 MIN, 14.0 PPG, 6.0 REB, 0.7 AST, 0.8 STL, 1.1 BLK, .601 FG, .393 3PT (2.5 ATT), .774 FT (3.0 ATT), .678 TS, 20.2 USG, 6.3 BPM

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Turrible...I’m just asking if we can go back to the world.

[CazOnReal]

And it's not like Edey is a 23 or 24 year old senior, he's a young 22 on draft night. There's room for development and there are solid reports on his shooting. If he starts popping off screens and adding in some 3 point shots here and there to keep defenses honest it's going to be awesome because the popping will keep defenders honest for the roll and lob catch at the rim. You can't put it past him because he has solid touch on his FT's with a nice high arc that usually increases the floor of the % of makes and should be indicative of at least the ability to be near average at hitting jumpers.

Edey is not a brick thrower he actually has some real touch on his shot, he needs to practice his ass off but there's something there unlike many centers who enter the league shooting 50-60% from the line with broken form.

Is "young 22" how people coped when Koloko was drafted at the same age? 22 is as close to as old as you can get before you no longer have to go through the draft to get in to the NBA.

There's only a handful of players who'll be older than Edey on draft night (Knecht is the only one that comes to mind).

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And it's not like Edey is a 23 or 24 year old senior, he's a young 22 on draft night. There's room for development and there are solid reports on his shooting. If he starts popping off screens and adding in some 3 point shots here and there to keep defenses honest it's going to be awesome because the popping will keep defenders honest for the roll and lob catch at the rim. You can't put it past him because he has solid touch on his FT's with a nice high arc that usually increases the floor of the % of makes and should be indicative of at least the ability to be near average at hitting jumpers.

Edey is not a brick thrower he actually has some real touch on his shot, he needs to practice his ass off but there's something there unlike many centers who enter the league shooting 50-60% from the line with broken form.

Is "young 22" how people coped when Koloko was drafted at the same age? 22 is as close to as old as you can get before you no longer have to go through the draft to get in to the NBA.

There's only a handful of players who'll be older than Edey on draft night (Knecht is the only one that comes to mind).

Siakam, FVV, and where all 22 when they drafted and they all kept progressing.

The guy we all wanted Sacramento to trade to us (Keegan Murray) was 22 when he was drafted. Just because a guy goes 4 years in college, does not mean he's old and he cannot improve, and he has no potential.