With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[YogurtProducer]

Trading Ochai to go from pick 39 to 34 is wild

lmao I have never seen someone try so hard to get rid of a decent young player

the amount of trade Ochai for a second round pick takes are embarrassing. People love the thought of a prospect becoming good but dont realize how unlikely it will be they become good. Especially a near 40% three point shooter with solid defense.

Ochai is a former lottery pick whose living up to his slot and guys hate him

Proof why to take nothing here seriously

[MoneyBall]

reddit

They don't matter until you gotta guard Embiid or Jokic.

The center he's alluding to there is Jokic... Caruso is the 6'5" guy.

The question is, would the Thunder have been better off with an elite defensive/mobile big to guard Jokic instead of Caruso? The answer is yes.

Caruso did a fantastic job, but it was still mostly a team effort. Let's not pretend like OKC won that series easily, they barely won versus the lower seed.

[Tripod]

Yeah i like the players on the team...Thing is you just named 7 players as a "Bench" ...NBA rotations are usually 8 deep maybe 9 if you really stretch it out....Without injuries alot of these guys mins will be cut during the season....Thats why in my mind if you can trade RJ + One or two of the young guys you bring in a Playoff proven player who can help us win....Now your rotation starts to look more playoff ready....Otherwise you are just wasting away these guys on the end of the bench without any real gain....Come playoff time the rotation gets even smaller...

I could see Mogbo and Battle not in the playoff rotation, though great young depth in case of injury.

Pretty much just need a 2 for 1 trade. Agbaji and #39 for #34 to draft Fleming or Markovic.

Trading Ochai to go from pick 39 to 34 is wild

Ochai gets no respect whatsoever

He went 14 in his draft and is still a top 20 pick in a redraft. He is a good 3+D guy vs guards on a team that needs shooting and values defense.

[MoneyBall]

reddit

They don't matter until you gotta guard Embiid or Jokic.

I suggest everyone watch this - the defensive versatility is king

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Thanks for sharing. I love defensive versatility, which is why I think it's so valuable to have a big or two with outstanding footwork.

[tsherkin]

Ochai gets no respect whatsoever

He's a decent shooter, quality from the corners. Not a dynamic player, but appears to be a decent roleplayer, sure. But you have to move something to get something, and he is one of the more appealing options from what we've got in our asset bag at the moment.

[Duffman100]

Ochai gets no respect whatsoever

He's a decent shooter, quality from the corners. Not a dynamic player, but appears to be a decent roleplayer, sure. But you have to move something to get something, and he is one of the more appealing options from what we've got in our asset bag at the moment.

Trading him to move up 5 spots in the 2nd round is lunacy

[tsherkin]

Ochai gets no respect whatsoever

He's a decent shooter, quality from the corners. Not a dynamic player, but appears to be a decent roleplayer, sure. But you have to move something to get something, and he is one of the more appealing options from what we've got in our asset bag at the moment.

Trading him to move up 5 spots in the 2nd round is lunacy

Oh. Yes. I definitely misread that trade, heh. I just focused on the "Ochai gets no respect whatsoever" comment, because it's not really true. I didn't really look to see that it was a minimal move up in the second round. o.O

[MEDIC]

So he's a Julius Randle/ Draymond Green hybrid?

That's what I am getting the more I read.

If that's what he turns out to be, that's great value at 9.

[Rodrickle]

from pods im listening to, OKC was all over CMB and would have been their pick at 15, took their next guy in Sorber. High stock guys. CMB more versatility which is why he ranked higher.

OKC and TOR are always after the same guys.

Gilgeous-Alexander
Williams
Dort
Murray-Boyles
Holmgren

Man, that defence, gotdang

We def were after Cason Wallace too

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[XTC]

Paul Milsap
Height no shoes: 6-6¼
Wingspan: 7-1½
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agility: 11.67s
Shuttle: n/a
¾ Sprint: 3.66
Vertical: 32½"

Draymond Green
Height no shoes: 6-5¾
Wingspan: 7-1¼
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agility: 11.01s
Shuttle: n/a
¾ Sprint: 3.40
Vertical: 33"

Julius Randle
Height no shoes: 6-7¾
Wingspan: 7-0
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agillity: 11.45s
Shuttle: 3.14s
¾ Sprint: 3.27s
Vertical: 35½"

CMB
Height no shoes: 6-6½
Wingspan: 7-0¾
Standing reach: 8-10
Lane Agillity: 11.21s
Shuttle: 2.86s
¾ Sprint: 3.15s
Vertical: 34½"

CMB has fine measurements to play the 4 fulltime. When he puts shoes hes going to be 6-8, with a standing reach around 8-11, and a 7-1 wingspan (I added a quarter inch). That's very comparable to guys above, and he honestly seems the most athletic.

I really like his combination of defensive + offensive ability. Hes like a hybrid between Draymond Green/Julius Randle, once his jumper develops hes going to be a legit monster.

[MEDIC]

It will be interesting to see who is better at defending bigs in the post. Him or Scottie.

[XTC]

It will be interesting to see who is better at defending bigs in the post. Him or Scottie.

CMB is strong with a very low center of gravity (opposite of Scottie). Its why hes so good at setting screens(he sets screen with a purpose), hes like a brick wall. Kid is super strong.

Drafting this kid allows Scottie to move back to the 3 long term, where his size is a huge advantage, but im envisioning the goal is to roll out 2 guards, 2 forwards, and a big man.

[OhCanada]

I wonder if they want Scottie to play Center.

[Ell Curry]

Quick question for you folks. I don't post very often but read this board religiously.

What if the plan is an eventual Barnes + for Giannis. How would the CMB pick look in our current lineup with Giannis, BI, CMB etc....

Assuming the trade is Barnes, 2 or 3 first rd picks, 2 1st rd swap (for a total of 4-5 1st) + RJ or Ochai or IQ + filler

Basically does picking CMB make trading Barnes for a Superstar more feasible?

I think so, but CMB and Giannis isn't a great fit either. Not enough spacing.

We need someone to properly run the offence. Ideally a big guard type.

As an example, something like Barnes + Gradey for Booker + Richards would be interesting if the Suns keep struggling:

Poeltl-CMB-Ingram-Booker-Quickley
Richards-Mogbo-Agbaji-Barrett-Walter-Shead

As it is, I think we're just going to keep losing the 3pt battle by too much to be genuinely good. Our bench should be quite good in 2-3 years, though, with CMB and Mogbo playing D and passing the ball and setting the picks for Walter, Dick and say RJ as the main wing scorer or if he's gone, maybe we upgrade backup PG.

[RaptorPride]

It will be interesting to see who is better at defending bigs in the post. Him or Scottie.

CMB is strong with a very low center of gravity (opposite of Scottie). Its why hes so good at setting screens(he sets screen with a purpose), hes like a brick wall. Kid is super strong.

Drafting this kid allows Scottie to move back to the 3 long term, where his size is a huge advantage, but im envisioning the goal is to roll out 2 guards, 2 forwards, and a big man.

He said his best skill is his strength.

[DreamTeam09]

So he's a Julius Randle/ Draymond Green hybrid?

That's what I am getting the more I read.

If that's what he turns out to be, that's great
value at 9.

Paul Milsap
Height no shoes: 6-6¼
Wingspan: 7-1½
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agility: 11.67s
Shuttle: n/a
¾ Sprint: 3.66
Vertical: 32½"

Draymond Green
Height no shoes: 6-5¾
Wingspan: 7-1¼
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agility: 11.01s
Shuttle: n/a
¾ Sprint: 3.40
Vertical: 33"

Julius Randle
Height no shoes: 6-7¾
Wingspan: 7-0
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agillity: 11.45s
Shuttle: 3.14s
¾ Sprint: 3.27s
Vertical: 35½"

CMB
Height no shoes: 6-6½
Wingspan: 7-0¾
Standing reach: 8-10
Lane Agillity: 11.21s
Shuttle: 2.86s
¾ Sprint: 3.15s
Vertical: 34½"

CMB has fine measurements to play the 4 fulltime. When he puts shoes hes going to be 6-8, with a standing reach around 8-11, and a 7-1 wingspan (I added a quarter inch). That's very comparable to guys above, and he honestly seems the most athletic.

I really like his defensive instincts, and shot creation offensively to get to the rim. Hes like a hybrid between Draymond Green/Julius Randle, once his jumper develops hes going to be a legit monster.

Stylistically he is like both of them. I want him guarding the best wing player & he has the size & defensive ability to do that

[XTC]

Paul Milsap
Height no shoes: 6-6¼
Wingspan: 7-1½
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agility: 11.67s
Shuttle: n/a
¾ Sprint: 3.66
Vertical: 32½"

Draymond Green
Height no shoes: 6-5¾
Wingspan: 7-1¼
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agility: 11.01s
Shuttle: n/a
¾ Sprint: 3.40
Vertical: 33"

Julius Randle
Height no shoes: 6-7¾
Wingspan: 7-0
Standing reach: 8-9
Lane Agillity: 11.45s
Shuttle: 3.14s
¾ Sprint: 3.27s
Vertical: 35½"

CMB
Height no shoes: 6-6½
Wingspan: 7-0¾
Standing reach: 8-10
Lane Agillity: 11.21s
Shuttle: 2.86s
¾ Sprint: 3.15s
Vertical: 34½"

CMB has fine measurements to play the 4 fulltime. When he puts shoes hes going to be 6-8, with a standing reach around 8-11, and a 7-1 wingspan (I added a quarter inch). That's very comparable to guys above, and he honestly seems the most athletic.

I really like his defensive instincts, and shot creation offensively to get to the rim. Hes like a hybrid between Draymond Green/Julius Randle, once his jumper develops hes going to be a legit monster.

Scottie Barnes was such a freak prospect honestly looking back. I can see why Masai & the scouting department fell in love with him. Hes a jumpshot away from being a top 10 NBA player.

Height no shoes: 6-7
Wingspan: 7-3
Standing reach: 9-0
Lane Agility: 10.88s
Shuttle: 2.99s
¾ Sprint: 3.15
Vertical: 39½

[ForeverTFC]

Ochai gets no respect whatsoever

He's a decent shooter, quality from the corners. Not a dynamic player, but appears to be a decent roleplayer, sure. But you have to move something to get something, and he is one of the more appealing options from what we've got in our asset bag at the moment.

I'd hardly call a 2nd round pick "something" if it costs you an actual NBA rotation player.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[RaptorPride]

I wonder if they want Scottie to play Center.

I think we should have him and CMB play some time there. Scottie is actually a really good interior defender and blocker. We just use him on the perimeter a lot which is also good to get him reps out there. Our guys are just super versatile and its real fun.