[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

[HumbleRen]

I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down

Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

[DreamTeam09]

I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down

Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

True True / Fair Fair

[CoinTossRoss31]

Portland wants him so bad lol. He's not going anywhere but lets see what these suckers pay up on draft night

I continue to maintain that if they want OG that bad to pair with Lillard they have to be debating a godfather offer.

OG + #33
for
Hart + 7 + Keon Johnson + next year first (Worst of Mil vs POR) + 36

That's my I don't want to trade OG but let's see if they'll agree to a squeeze offer.

[Los_29]

I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down

Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

I'd imagine Mikal is better than him, no? Mikal is a super efficient offensive player and one of the best defensive players in the league who can guard the opposing team's best wing players. That to me is more valuable than what Ayton does on the court.

[HumbleRen]

Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

I'd imagine Mikal is better than him, no? Mikal is a super efficient offensive player and one of the best defensive players in the league who can guard the opposing team's best wing players. That to me is more valuable than what Ayton does on the court.

No. Ayton is definitely better for that entire playoff run.

[HoopAndTheHarm]

Rather than speculate whether and for who Anunoby should be traded, I'd offer that this thread and topic would be better titled "The word surrounding Jake Fischer's legitimacy". He has none.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Portland wants him so bad lol. He's not going anywhere but lets see what these suckers pay up on draft night

I continue to maintain that if they want OG that bad to pair with Lillard they have to be debating a godfather offer.

OG + #33
for
Hart + 7 + Keon Johnson + next year first (Worst of Mil vs POR) + 36

That's my I don't want to trade OG but let's see if they'll agree to a squeeze offer.

I think if they want OG, they need to make Simons available.

[WaltFrazier]

Rather than speculate whether and for who Anunoby should be traded, I'd offer that this thread and topic would be better titled "The word surrounding Jake Fischer's legitimacy". He has none.

That's why it's so pathetic this thread is so long, all based on one hack's click-baiting speculation.

[TGM]

Hart and 7 I think is a good package for OG. Hart is very underrated and is a better 3PT shooter than OG. He is a monster rebounder at the 2 and 3 position. Getting Hart allows us to move Trent and possibly VanFleet.

Wouldn't mind if we did OG for Hart and 7.

Then flip Trent, Birch and Fred and a future 1st in a deal with Charlotte and Utah.

Raps get Rozier and Gobert

Charlotte gets Conley and Trent and Birch, 1st from Toronto. Saves on LT salary. Moving from 160 million in contract commitments to two flexible deals with Trent and Conley for a combined 60 million or so. Charlotte will need space to resign Ball, Bridges, PJ Washington. They also can sign a max player in the 2023 off-season as they will have several expiring deals.

Utah gets Fred and Hayward.

Could include a 4th team to take Fred so that Utah can get back another C if they desire to.

Our New 5

Rozier
Hart
Barnes
Pascal
Gobert

[lobosloboslobos]

MODS - this is basically 40 pages of dumb trade suggestions and 20 pages of pointing out there is ZERO legitimacy to the report that OG is on the block so HOW do you not shut down this bs and shift it into the trade thread? honestly, it makes me embarrassed that we have been the #1 suckers hyping up all this trade OG nonsense. Scottie might as well crap all over our board for spewing so much garbage, and rightly so.

[dgr81]

I don't understand why people are so gungho on keeping OG. He is who he is at this point. All he does is shoot and play D... His dribble drive game is terrible, he can't create, can't get by his man. If we can get someone like Ayton who in the right system and offense can be a 20/10 guy easy... im down

Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

He was the third best player on the bench? He didn't even play.

Is OG a great defender? Yes. Should the raptors explore improving their team by tradi g OG? Absolutely.

[agkagk]

Og is still quite young and has taken a pretty big step each season.

Nothing has changed from the beginning of the season.

IMO, his floor is prime luol deng.

I don’t see him being moved for anything less than a top tier foundational piece.

[mtcan]

Hart and 7 I think is a good package for OG. Hart is very underrated and is a better 3PT shooter than OG. He is a monster rebounder at the 2 and 3 position. Getting Hart allows us to move Trent and possibly VanFleet.

Wouldn't mind if we did OG for Hart and 7.

Then flip Trent, Birch and Fred and a future 1st in a deal with Charlotte and Utah.

Raps get Rozier and Gobert

Charlotte gets Conley and Trent and Birch, 1st from Toronto. Saves on LT salary. Moving from 160 million in contract commitments to two flexible deals with Trent and Conley for a combined 60 million or so. Charlotte will need space to resign Ball, Bridges, PJ Washington. They also can sign a max player in the 2023 off-season as they will have several expiring deals.

Utah gets Fred and Hayward.

Could include a 4th team to take Fred so that Utah can get back another C if they desire to.

Our New 5

Rozier
Hart
Barnes
Pascal
Gobert

People so quick to dump Fred not realizing that Utah already has 2 smallish guards with Mitchell and Conley so would have no use for Fred...not to mention dedicating almost 60 million of cap in 3 small guards.

[WuTang_CMB]

Can we imagine this team at our peak:

Siakam entering his prime years now
FVV entering his prime years now
OG prime soon about to turn 25 has more growth
Scottie only 21 major upside
Precious only 23 good upside

Then we have Trent still on the come up as an elite shooter even if he doesnt improve anymore he’s a vital peice



Id put up our core against anyone in the league

[AkelaLoneWolf]

MODS - this is basically 40 pages of dumb trade suggestions and 20 pages of pointing out there is ZERO legitimacy to the report that OG is on the block so HOW do you not shut down this bs and shift it into the trade thread? honestly, it makes me embarrassed that we have been the #1 suckers hyping up all this trade OG nonsense. Scottie might as well crap all over our board for spewing so much garbage, and rightly so.

Its a discussion board so discussion will happen but I agree with you.
We're coming off a very successful season of which OG was a key part. Add in that he's an elite 3+D player in a position of high demand with a very reasonable contract and I don't see how he's traded so easily. I don't expect any big trades, just the slow and steady route the raps have chosen.

[HumbleRen]

Because in a league full of superstar wing players, someone has to defend those guys. OG is one of the best players you're going to find to do that.
In a league where shooting/space is pretty much the most important thing to a great offense, OG is very reliable for those things.

We just saw Ayton become unplayable at times in the playoffs

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

He was the third best player on the bench? He didn't even play.

Is OG a great defender? Yes. Should the raptors explore improving their team by tradi g OG? Absolutely.

Huh ? I’m talking about Ayton lol.

[pingpongrac]

Hart and 7 I think is a good package for OG. Hart is very underrated and is a better 3PT shooter than OG. He is a monster rebounder at the 2 and 3 position. Getting Hart allows us to move Trent and possibly VanFleet.

Wouldn't mind if we did OG for Hart and 7.

Then flip Trent, Birch and Fred and a future 1st in a deal with Charlotte and Utah.

Raps get Rozier and Gobert

Charlotte gets Conley and Trent and Birch, 1st from Toronto. Saves on LT salary. Moving from 160 million in contract commitments to two flexible deals with Trent and Conley for a combined 60 million or so. Charlotte will need space to resign Ball, Bridges, PJ Washington. They also can sign a max player in the 2023 off-season as they will have several expiring deals.

Utah gets Fred and Hayward.

Could include a 4th team to take Fred so that Utah can get back another C if they desire to.

Our New 5

Rozier
Hart
Barnes
Pascal
Gobert

First of all, Hart is not a better three-point shooter than OG. Their volume is very similar at about 4 attempts per game each, but OG is a career 37.2% three-point shooter whereas Hart is a career 34.7% three-point shooter. Maybe you looked at Hart and saw he shot 40% in his rookie season or 37% in 13 games with Portland last year, but OG has historically been the clear better shooter.

Second, adding Rozier+Gobert puts us in cap hell. Between the two of them, they'll be making 60-70M until 2025/26. Throw in Siakam's ~36M over the next few years and we're spending nearly 100M on 3 players.

Third, are we really about to trade away all of that three-point shooting and youth for an all-in type of move on someone that can't even score outside of 10 feet (Gobert) when we're already very thin on outside shooting and two downgrades? Rozier is a worse version of FVV in almost every way imaginable, Hart is a worse version of OG in almost every way imaginable and Gobert is the most expensive defender in the entire league that hasn't shown or developed any kind of offensive game outside of setting screens and converting lobs/putbacks. It just doesn't make much sense to me.

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[dgr81]

We also seen him be the 3rd best player on a finals team at age 22 to be fair to him.

He was the third best player on the bench? He didn't even play.

Is OG a great defender? Yes. Should the raptors explore improving their team by tradi g OG? Absolutely.

Huh ? I’m talking about Ayton lol.

oh

my bad

[TGM]

Hart and 7 I think is a good package for OG. Hart is very underrated and is a better 3PT shooter than OG. He is a monster rebounder at the 2 and 3 position. Getting Hart allows us to move Trent and possibly VanFleet.

Wouldn't mind if we did OG for Hart and 7.

Then flip Trent, Birch and Fred and a future 1st in a deal with Charlotte and Utah.

Raps get Rozier and Gobert

Charlotte gets Conley and Trent and Birch, 1st from Toronto. Saves on LT salary. Moving from 160 million in contract commitments to two flexible deals with Trent and Conley for a combined 60 million or so. Charlotte will need space to resign Ball, Bridges, PJ Washington. They also can sign a max player in the 2023 off-season as they will have several expiring deals.

Utah gets Fred and Hayward.

Could include a 4th team to take Fred so that Utah can get back another C if they desire to.

Our New 5

Rozier
Hart
Barnes
Pascal
Gobert

First of all, Hart is not a better three-point shooter than OG. Their volume is very similar at about 4 attempts per game each, but OG is a career 37.2% three-point shooter whereas Hart is a career 34.7% three-point shooter. Maybe you looked at Hart and saw he shot 40% in his rookie season or 37% in 13 games with Portland last year, but OG has historically been the clear better shooter.

Second, adding Rozier+Gobert puts us in cap hell. Between the two of them, they'll be making 60-70M until 2025/26. Throw in Siakam's ~36M over the next few years and we're spending nearly 100M on 3 players.

Third, are we really about to trade away all of that three-point shooting and youth for an all-in type of move on someone that can't even score outside of 10 feet (Gobert) when we're already very thin on outside shooting and two downgrades? Rozier is a worse version of FVV in almost every way imaginable, Hart is a worse version of OG in almost every way imaginable and Gobert is the most expensive defender in the entire league that hasn't shown or developed any kind of offensive game outside of setting screens and converting lobs/putbacks. It just doesn't make much sense to me.

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Hart's all-round game I personally think is a better fit for the Raps considering how crowded our front court is already. He is arguably one of the best 2 guard rebounders in the league and plays Raps type of ball. He has been a bit of a late bloomer, but when given a bigger role in Portland last year showed he could step up.

Gobert is a DPOY and should make max money. Yes he doesn't score outside of 10 feet. But you failed to mention that within 10 feet his FG is over 70% and he anchors any team's defense. You've seen how our team has been exploited endlessly the past two seasons. People might go and say look GS just won with a 6'7 C in Draymond. People yet fail to point out the fact that they have two of the best 3PT shooters in the league in Klay and Curry. Curry happens to be a hall of famer in his prime and arguably top 10. Klay as well. Btw, they also had Wiggins who played out of his mind and another top scorer in Poole.

Rozier's contract is not bad at all. Most of all his size and length is much better for the type of ball we play. Offensively he is more talented than Fred if you watch his games. Fred is a good defender for his size, but yet when matched up against lengthier and faster guards he gets blown by and just doesn't have the reach. Fred also needs volume shooting to be effective. I think Fred on a different team would be more effective, but his lack of length just makes him less optimal for a long line-up. Rozier has always played in the shadow of another more talented offensive guard and cause he didn't come in the league with the same high profile. He has had to play with kemba, Kyrie and ball. Not exactly an easy to show case your talents. Why I think Rozier is a better fit is also cause we have Pascal and Scottie both looking to do some play making. You want a guy that can be a better off-guard. I think where Rozier stands out more to me, are games where he has had to take over offensively. he has shown the ability to do that consistently. Fred is not the guy that I really want to try to score at the end of the game. Rozier and Pascal is a much better 1-2 offensive punch IMO.

[Qhawe]

Can we imagine this team at our peak:

Siakam entering his prime years now
FVV entering his prime years now
OG prime soon about to turn 25 has more growth
Scottie only 21 major upside
Precious only 23 good upside

Then we have Trent still on the come up as an elite shooter even if he doesnt improve anymore he’s a vital peice



Id put up our core against anyone in the league

Siakam entered his prime 1.5 years ago. He's well into it, probably 2.5 years of his peak left, imo.
Same for Fred, he entered 2.5 years ago and 1.5 left imo.
I expect OG to be a monster next year, if not then the year after.
Agree on scottie and precious. Scottie is 2 years from being at least top 15 in the league imo, if he keeps working on his game.