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Post#1241 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:07 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:We need Edey man. Should have suited up and played for his country. Can’t take it for granted that Team Canada basketball will always be in the Olympics.


It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.
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Post#1242 » by C_Money » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:14 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:We need Edey man. Should have suited up and played for his country. Can’t take it for granted that Team Canada basketball will always be in the Olympics.


It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


Yeah, I get the feeling Wiggins didn’t put up too much of a fight.
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Post#1243 » by Steven1562 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:37 pm

Proud of team Canada. Bend but don't break... Greece is a tough team. We survived their best. Giannis is tough matchup and we survived. On to the next.
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Post#1244 » by jrask » Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:15 am

Part of me believes Australia might be an easier matchup than Greece. For starters, no Giannis. Additionally, Australia's roster includes more NBA players, which could mean they play a style more familiar to Team Canada.
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Post#1245 » by PushDaRock » Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:48 am

jrask wrote:Part of me believes Australia might be an easier matchup than Greece. For starters, no Giannis. Additionally, Australia's roster includes more NBA players, which could mean they play a style more familiar to Team Canada.


Our NBA talent is a lot better than theirs as well. The concern would be a guy like Patty Mills going nuts with that short 3 point line.
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Post#1246 » by Steven1562 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:54 am

SGA is a special player. If we could develop 2-3 similar players. Canada would be a force to be reckoned with.
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Post#1247 » by PushDaRock » Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:58 am

Steven1562 wrote:SGA is a special player. If we could develop 2-3 similar players. Canada would be a force to be reckoned with.


lol if we did that we would have 3-4 of the best 5 players in the world.
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Post#1248 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:10 am

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Zeno wrote:Is there really? The only reason to give Kelly minutes as the primarily backup C is to throw games. Most people recognize the need to pair him with a rim protector type. Thought it was a pretty universally held belief around here.


I wish more people were that logical but I've had numerous posts where I had to mention what you just said and others respond with "basketball reference shows he's played majority of his career at Center so that means he's a Center."

When has Kelly often shared the floor with another rim protector? You'd have to go back to his Miami days when he shared the floor with Bam but even then he spent less than half his minutes with Bam on the floor.


Olynyk did backup with Kessler before he got traded to us but how much success has Kelly had in his nba career? He's an awkward fit in most lineups defensively since he's too slow to gaurd PFs and too weak/limited to be a C/rim protecting Center.

I actually like the guy because hes a very skilled offensive player. Its just that teams playing him at C need to be stacked on the roster elsewhere in order to overcome his deficiencies. That team is clearly not the Raptors lol.
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Post#1249 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:11 am

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Steven1562 wrote:SGA is a special player. If we could develop 2-3 similar players. Canada would be a force to be reckoned with.


lol if we did that we would have 3-4 of the best 5 players in the world.


I like that gameplan. If the Raptors can develop 2-3 Scottie's, the Raptors would be championship contenders lol.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V4.0 

Post#1250 » by The Duke » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:19 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Steven1562 wrote:SGA is a special player. If we could develop 2-3 similar players. Canada would be a force to be reckoned with.


lol if we did that we would have 3-4 of the best 5 players in the world.


I like that gameplan. If the Raptors can develop 2-3 Scottie's, the Raptors would be championship contenders lol.


I still won’t guarantee that.
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Post#1251 » by sbsat » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:41 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:We need Edey man. Should have suited up and played for his country. Can’t take it for granted that Team Canada basketball will always be in the Olympics.


It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


And edey the player made the correct decision here. He hasnt earned 1 nba dollar yet and you want him to go against the wishes of the team that drafted him? Would be stupid
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Post#1252 » by MessiahUjiri » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:05 am

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HumbleRen wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


And edey the player made the correct decision here. He hasnt earned 1 nba dollar yet and you want him to go against the wishes of the team that drafted him? Would be stupid



Considering that an Olympic berth and a chance to medal is a rarity, this was really dumb.

He should have pushed to play. The US is sending their late 30s vets to play and we couldn’t send a 20 year old?

I think we should have checked on Tristan Thompson before Khem Birch….but I trust the management knows what they’re doing. That lack of size is gonna hurt us.
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Post#1253 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:07 am

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HumbleRen wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


And edey the player made the correct decision here. He hasnt earned 1 nba dollar yet and you want him to go against the wishes of the team that drafted him? Would be stupid


Ya if they tell you they want you at Summer League, you go with the people who are paying your checks. Team Canada is a charity in terms of his earning power that I'm sure he'll take part in next go around as long as his contractual status doesn't screw him once again. He'd be a game changer in FIBA by then.
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Post#1254 » by sbsat » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:12 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:
sbsat wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


And edey the player made the correct decision here. He hasnt earned 1 nba dollar yet and you want him to go against the wishes of the team that drafted him? Would be stupid



Considering that an Olympic berth and a chance to medal is a rarity, this was really dumb.

He should have pushed to play. The US is sending their late 30s vets to play and we couldn’t send a 20 year old?

I think we should have checked on Tristan Thompson before Khem Birch….but I trust the management knows what they’re doing. That lack of size is gonna hurt us.


Making the nba is rare. When you get there doing something the jeopardizes your shot at building a career, earnings potential and more seems rather foolish. Once he gets to a point where he proves his worrh he has all the power can do whatever he wants. This is precisely why team usa is all established players
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Post#1255 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:16 am

sbsat wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:
sbsat wrote:
And edey the player made the correct decision here. He hasnt earned 1 nba dollar yet and you want him to go against the wishes of the team that drafted him? Would be stupid



Considering that an Olympic berth and a chance to medal is a rarity, this was really dumb.

He should have pushed to play. The US is sending their late 30s vets to play and we couldn’t send a 20 year old?

I think we should have checked on Tristan Thompson before Khem Birch….but I trust the management knows what they’re doing. That lack of size is gonna hurt us.


Making the nba is rare. When you get there doing something the jeopardizes your shot at building a career, earnings potential and more seems rather foolish. Once he gets to a point where he proves his worrh he has all the power can do whatever he wants. This is precisely why team usa is all established players


That’s because the established players are the best players.

Wemby/Luka, etc etc would have all played for their country if the Olympics were in their rookie year.
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Post#1256 » by agkagk » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:27 am

Steven1562 wrote:SGA is a special player. If we could develop 2-3 similar players. Canada would be a force to be reckoned with.



Wiggins + an nba caliber top 15-ish centre and the usa has a real problem already.


Like a 28 year old val plus wiggins and the USA aint talking too loud.
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Post#1257 » by WiggOuts » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:37 am

Were one good big man away from being a gold medal contender

5 years(or whatever it is) of working/living in a country to be eligible for citizenship...Scotties almost there. If he doesn't get selected to the US team Canada better come knocking...altho I'm sure the US would be aware of this lol
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Post#1258 » by sbsat » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:42 am

HumbleRen wrote:
sbsat wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:

Considering that an Olympic berth and a chance to medal is a rarity, this was really dumb.

He should have pushed to play. The US is sending their late 30s vets to play and we couldn’t send a 20 year old?

I think we should have checked on Tristan Thompson before Khem Birch….but I trust the management knows what they’re doing. That lack of size is gonna hurt us.


Making the nba is rare. When you get there doing something the jeopardizes your shot at building a career, earnings potential and more seems rather foolish. Once he gets to a point where he proves his worrh he has all the power can do whatever he wants. This is precisely why team usa is all established players


That’s because the established players are the best players.

Wemby/Luka, etc etc would have all played for their country if the Olympics were in their rookie year.


Edey is arguablly a fringe nba player… this isnt hard. Hed be An idiot to jeopardize his relationship with the team that frankly put their faith in him drafting him higher than anyone thought.

Wemby came into the league as a known generational talent the team will cater to him. Luka essentially the same
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Post#1259 » by Colbinii » Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:03 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:We need Edey man. Should have suited up and played for his country. Can’t take it for granted that Team Canada basketball will always be in the Olympics.


It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


Wemby chose to sit out of FIBA last year as well. Seems fairly common from better rookies to sit-out and accomidate to the work culture.
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Post#1260 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:16 am

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HumbleRen wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
It wasn't up to him. Memphis made the call to have Edey with their coaches asap. Usually all rookies get that treatment sadly. Wiggins on the other hand being held out by the Warriors is a joke.


Teams can’t keep players from playing unless it’s a valid medical reason.

They can strong arm them into it but it’s up to the player.


Yeah, I get the feeling Wiggins didn’t put up too much of a fight.

Maybe. But the maddening thing about the Wiggins scenario is, GSW isn't even trying to keep him healthy to play for them. They just want to trade him.
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