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Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4

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Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?

Anthony Davis
43
24%
Harrison Barnes
47
26%
Andre Drummond
19
11%
Perry Jones
4
2%
Quincy Miller
3
2%
Jeremy Lamb
26
15%
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
32
18%
Jared Sullinger
1
1%
Austin Rivers
2
1%
Other
1
1%
 
Total votes: 178

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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4 

Post#1261 » by Homer Jay » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:39 am

Steely Reserve wrote:And I'm not seeing the shotmaking/playmaking ability from Lamb that you would want from a top-5 selection. I don't know how he'll get his shot off at the next level -- dude is frail as hell.


What? I saw him lose his man on a crossover. Frankly his teammates suck.
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Post#1262 » by fredericklove » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:42 am

Steely Reserve wrote:
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Steely Reserve wrote:I'm firmly convinced Drummond will get a GM fired. I hope its not yours. If this guy is not fool's gold, I don't know who is.


That's not the only thing that gets a GM fired. PJ3 or MKG at the 1st pick will get the entire franchise fired.

Dude give it up. Your petulance is annoying.


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Post#1263 » by fredericklove » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:44 am

Did Drummond get hit on the ear? He looks like he's in pain, is his ear okay?
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Post#1264 » by Steely Reserve » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:47 am

I want to see more explosiveness from Lamb. Having a crossover is cool but what do you have to counter D once they play you for it?

Can he continually get past his man who has the size and strength to nullified his length and jumpshot?

See where im going here? That's why you should never take a shooting guard in the top 5 unless he's special. And I'm not seeing special from Lamb. He'd be a solid pick between 7-10, tho.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4 

Post#1265 » by CunningLinguist » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:48 am

Steely Reserve wrote:I'm firmly convinced Drummond will get a GM fired. I hope its not yours. If this guy is not fool's gold, I don't know who is.


I still think Drummond, Davis and PJ3 are the top talents in the draft.

PJ3 is the most ready to contribute on the offensive end, the question is does he care enough on D to be a factor at that end of the floor.

Davis should be a factor early on with his rebounding and weakside defense. He's shown glimpses of a nice jumpshot and good ballhandling and passing skills for a 4. Looks raw with his back to the basket though.

Drummond could end up being a better balance between offense and defense if he maxes out his potential. He can handle the ball and pass and he's shown a nice turnaround J at times. He moves his feet well on D and has good shotblocking instincts and quick hands. He's raw fundamentally, but has huge talent. He's really a blank canvas that I think most coaches would like to have a shot at developing.
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Post#1266 » by fredericklove » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:53 am

How can you assemble a team full of players with top-tier talent and still suck like this? They're not even caring on the defensive end and not doing anything right on the O. For a top-level team losing last 4 games is just unthinkable. What the hell is wrong with this team? They're not even inexperienced or noob, these are 4 guys that came back from winning the final last year. This team really smh.
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Post#1267 » by nahom1319 » Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:59 am

fredericklove wrote:How can you assemble a team full of players with top-tier talent and still suck like this? They're not even caring on the defensive end and not doing anything right on the O. For a top-level team losing last 4 games is just unthinkable. What the hell is wrong with this team? They're not even inexperienced or noob, these are 4 guys that came back from winning the final last year. This team really smh.

This is what I've been saying the past 2-3 weeks I honestly question what these guys do in practise, if they are indeed practicing.
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Post#1268 » by JN » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:04 am

I am probably not fair to these UCONN perhaps as I am certainly not a fan of their team, and revel in their losses. (yet I sort of liked the Kemba team last year)

But four teams this year have pairs of great prospects (whcih is somewhat unusual). UK youngsters are #1, UNC is around #5 but should be higher ( they only lose due to Roy Williams being a questionable defensive coach), Baylor is a 5-10 type team-- the best team they have ever had

And yet the UConn prospects are leading them to the bubble -- I knew they were vastly overrated and said they were not a top 5 team this year when the season started--- but I did not think they would be close to this bad.

It makes me question their prospects alot-- and certainly question those that liked Shabazz Napier!!!
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Post#1269 » by Undefeated » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:08 am

- Drummond looking really underwhelming. He's caught too often ball watching when a shot is put up and doesn't find a body to box out enough. And what's up with Drummond going and giving the opponent a hand to get up when he fouled the guy lol?

- Hopefully, Lamb plays better in the second half. He's a good shooter, so I'm sure he'll shoot himself back into the game. Was more impressed by his court vision and passing, especially the drive-and-kick. Teammates are bricking wide open shots... Still lacks the explosive first step, change of pace on his crossover and overall quickness imo.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4 

Post#1270 » by Marlo Stanfield » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:11 am

Jesus Lamb is a sleeping giant, all he needs is to get away from UCONN and onto the Raptors.
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Post#1271 » by nahom1319 » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:20 am

Drummond showing some defensive ability...moving the feet. LAMB with the dunk....about time young fella
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4 

Post#1272 » by Marlo Stanfield » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:24 am

I'm choosing to watch the Raptors get spanked by Boston. Can a brutha get some updates on Jesus?
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Post#1273 » by fredericklove » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:24 am

Undefeated wrote:- Drummond looking really underwhelming. He's caught too often ball watching when a shot is put up and doesn't find a body to box out enough. And what's up with Drummond going and giving the opponent a hand to get up when he fouled the guy lol?

- Hopefully, Lamb plays better in the second half. He's a good shooter, so I'm sure he'll shoot himself back into the game. Was more impressed by his court vision and passing, especially the drive-and-kick. Teammates are bricking wide open shots... Still lacks the explosive first step, change of pace on his crossover and overall quickness imo.


Is it mean to say Drummond is a pu$sy? Idk man, that was super lame giving a hand going "my bad bro". Toughen up man, KG prolly will grab Drummond by his jersey and tell him "wtf is wrong with u homey?"

I think the entire team is bringing Lamb's motivation/mentality down. Lamb really needs to be a vocal leader and motivates his teammates too.

Holy why did Drummond pass up the shot when the rim was right in front of him, this smh. :-?
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Post#1274 » by JN » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:25 am

nahom1319 wrote:Drummond showing some defensive ability...moving the feet. LAMB with the dunk....about time young fella


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Post#1275 » by nahom1319 » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:26 am

Marlo Stanfield wrote:I'm choosing to watch the Raptors get spanked by Boston. Can a brutha get some updates on Jesus?

Not much to report other then his put back jam. Drummond is playing well though
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Post#1276 » by fredericklove » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:27 am

WTF Drummond, stop standing around, cmon man, I swear, cut the useless crap man.
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Post#1277 » by Steely Reserve » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:29 am

Drummond is not physical at all. He passes up bunnies and fades away on his shot. With that sort of size, thats just unacceptable no matter how young he is.

He looks like a plus rebounder amd shot blocker, but damn, you draft a big that high, you have to be able to throw the ball down low to him and be able to count on him to get buckets or double teamed. If not, I would draft Anthony Davis instead.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4 

Post#1278 » by Homer Jay » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:29 am

Man (Not Jesus) Olander sucks...

What did Boatright do to piss off Calhoun? The team rocked with him in there and sucks without.

I like Lamb's drive and kicks but his teammates can't hit anything to save their lives.

Drummond playing a bit better in the second half. He has a knack for getting to good spots for easy dunks.
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Post#1279 » by Live Free » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:33 am

It comes down to this for me...

With the game on the line whose hands do you put the ball in for the win?: MKG, Lamb, Barnes, PJ3

I pick Barnes.
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Post#1280 » by JN » Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:34 am

I wonder if Drummond plays basketball because he is good at it, .. but he doesn't necessarily love basketball and that inhibits his passion on the court.

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