
dohboy_24 wrote:beanbag wrote:
Welcome back. Can you answer my previous question?
Which question?
What is the point you are making with these stats? What are you arguing for?
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dohboy_24 wrote:beanbag wrote:
Welcome back. Can you answer my previous question?
Which question?
dohboy_24 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:So you’ve now moved on to the virus doesn’t exist? I mean...I guess continuing to dig is one way to play things. It’s all just lies and a scam, like vaccines and......fluoridated water, apparently?
What are you suggesting? Is the letter fake? Is Health Canada lying or withholding information by their response?Fairview4Life wrote:Anyway this is just from the first couple pages of googling:
When you ask Google to find those words on the same page together, it will find them. Doesn't mean the isolation was achieved in the manner outlined in the FOI. Did you even read the articles you're quoting as proof?Fairview4Life wrote:https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?i=2069
"Thanks to nimble collaboration, the team was able to culture the virus from two clinical specimens in a Level 3 containment facility."Fairview4Life wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7045880/
"Upper and lower respiratory tract secretion samples from putative patients with COVID-19 were inoculated onto cells to isolate the virus. Full genome sequencing and electron microscopy were used to identify the virus."
"Fecal samples contained higher loads of virus DNA than did respiratory specimens collected 17 to 28 days after symptom onset. The researchers couldn't isolate live virus from fecal samples collected at later time points, although RT-PCR continued to detect viral RNA, "indicating only RNA fragments, not infectious virus, in feces of this patient," they wrote."Fairview4Life wrote:https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1176
https://www.total-croatia-news.com/lifestyle/42995-fran-mihaljevic-clinic
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/212/10/isolation-and-rapid-sharing-2019-novel-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-first-patient
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.11.037382v1
Anyone else have a few moments to debunk the rest? Otherwise I'm going to have to start billing for my time...
gei wrote:Looks like all the "shut it down!11!" whining has finally stopped.
The NBA is almost back!
Fairview4Life wrote:Culturing a virus and sequencing it...means it doesn’t exist. Check mate? What the **** is going on here?
dohboy_24 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:So you’ve now moved on to the virus doesn’t exist? I mean...I guess continuing to dig is one way to play things. It’s all just lies and a scam, like vaccines and......fluoridated water, apparently?
What are you suggesting? Is the letter fake? Is Health Canada lying or withholding information by their response?Fairview4Life wrote:Anyway this is just from the first couple pages of googling:
When you ask Google to find those words on the same page together, it will find them. Doesn't mean the isolation was achieved in the manner outlined in the FOI. Did you even read the articles you're quoting as proof?Fairview4Life wrote:https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?i=2069
"Thanks to nimble collaboration, the team was able to culture the virus from two clinical specimens in a Level 3 containment facility."Fairview4Life wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7045880/
"Upper and lower respiratory tract secretion samples from putative patients with COVID-19 were inoculated onto cells to isolate the virus. Full genome sequencing and electron microscopy were used to identify the virus."
"Fecal samples contained higher loads of virus DNA than did respiratory specimens collected 17 to 28 days after symptom onset. The researchers couldn't isolate live virus from fecal samples collected at later time points, although RT-PCR continued to detect viral RNA, "indicating only RNA fragments, not infectious virus, in feces of this patient," they wrote."Fairview4Life wrote:https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1176
https://www.total-croatia-news.com/lifestyle/42995-fran-mihaljevic-clinic
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/212/10/isolation-and-rapid-sharing-2019-novel-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-first-patient
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.11.037382v1
Anyone else have a few moments to debunk the rest? Otherwise I'm going to have to start billing for my time...
gei wrote:Looks like all the "shut it down!11!" whining has finally stopped.
The NBA is almost back!
NinjaBro wrote:
Can we put all these people into a bubble all for themselves and throw away the key?
We're never going to be free of this pandemic when idiots are roaming free.
Raps in 4 wrote:NinjaBro wrote:
Can we put all these people into a bubble all for themselves and throw away the key?
We're never going to be free of this pandemic when idiots are roaming free.
We'll only be free of this when a vaccine comes out. If they don't want to get it, they don't have to.
dohboy_24 wrote:As part of that request, Ms. Massey asked for all available records that would describe "the isolation of a SARS-COV-2 virus, directly from a sample taken from a diseased patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material."
• the culturing of something, or
• the performance of an amplification test (i.e. a PCR test), or
• the sequencing of something.
omar36 wrote:
so this video has been making the rounds on the internet till social media started blocking it (for obvious reasons lmao), whats interesting is that it was reposted by our very own terrence davis and damian lillard among trump.
this is a legit docotr i guess ( md from nigeria) but some of her views are just insane. covid truthers are just something else
like do these ppl even have any common sense, how do u get this stupid
dohboy_24 wrote:Since they can't provide records of samples that don't exist, perhaps the better question to ask is: Why is the sample from a potential covid-19 patient being combined with the genetic material from another source before the test is run and how does that affect the viability of the testing methods being used?
dohboy_24 wrote:LOL... you guys are too much. I posted a link to Twitter, not a conspiracy website. I don't know who this lady is, I've only visited the website to view the file, and was not and am not posting conspiracy theories in this thread as both mods and other posters have suggested.
I have been a member of this forum for quiet some time and have been actively participating in this thread for months now, without any agenda or motivation other than to shed light on the stories, talking points, and information the mainstream media and most people following this situation probably wouldn't find on their own.
In the case of the letter provided earlier, Health Canada received a request from a Canadian citizen named Christine Massey of Brampton, Ontario. In this letter, that was posted on Twitter with a referral link to the source file for reference, Health Canada is responding to her request for information under the Access to Information Act.
As part of that request, Ms. Massey asked for all available records that would describe "the isolation of a SARS-COV-2 virus, directly from a sample taken from a diseased patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material."
Upon receipt of this request, Health Canada completed a thorough search of the records they hold in their custody and upon their review of these documents, they "were unable to locate any records responsive to [her] request"
Since Health Canada could not provide any records to support the isolation of a SARS-COV-2 virus without it first being combined with genetic material from another source prior to testing, does that mean SARS-COV-2 is a conspiracy or a hoax?
No, it does not. It means exactly what it says: all of the covid-19 samples Health Canada has in its custody were combined with the genetic material from another source before testing.
If they had records of covid-19 samples from patients that weren't combined with the genetic material from another source prior to testing, why wouldn't they provide them when requested?
Since they can't provide records of samples that don't exist, perhaps the better question to ask is: Why is the sample from a potential covid-19 patient being combined with the genetic material from another source before the test is run and how does that affect the viability of the testing methods being used?
NinjaBro wrote:
Can we put all these people into a bubble all for themselves and throw away the key?
We're never going to be free of this pandemic when idiots are roaming free.
beanbag wrote:Why don't YOU tell us why you think that is.