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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1261 » by Psubs » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:11 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265477/Nets-Considering-Trade-Of-Nic-Claxton

Nicolas Claxton for David Johnson or Malachi Flynn? Svi, David Johnson and cash?

Get Claxton's early bird rights.
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Post#1262 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:46 pm

I don't believe getting a big will solve the biggest problem we have

unless that big is a superstar. I think we need a guy still. You always do in the playoffs. idk if fvv or pascal can be Kawhi.
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Post#1263 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:48 pm

I think getting a centre should come after the superstar, just like Gasol w Kawhi, unless you get a great deal, we don't have to be despearte for one imo its not gonna solve the biggest problem
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Post#1264 » by RapsAndJays21 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:51 pm

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Post#1265 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:04 pm

Rodrickle wrote:Nic Claxton's available. He's solid and only 22. Free agent at the end of the season. They can't resign him without a huge tax bill. I wonder if expiring (Yuta?)and a future second would be enough? Or maybe they want a player like precious with a cheap rookie contract? Not sure if Masai would do it. I think Nic has lots of potential. I assume he'll be ask for MLE type $.

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My thought is they may use him as sweetener to convert some of their pieces into a bench part for their playoff run;

Would be thrilled to trade for him just to see how he would look in the system as a traditional five who rarely takes threes, just not quite sure what he would cost maybe a second or two, maybe a protected first? I just have no idea.
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Post#1266 » by ash_k » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:19 pm

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Asif16 wrote:Would ya'll do Precious + First for Turner?

Do you actually follow the team or not?!
If you actually do then you know how Masai feels about Precious ("you are mine now"): Thus do you really think 5 months later Vice Chairman could include him in any trade?!


So we think, because Masai complimented/flattered an employee, he won't trade him?

I do that **** all the time and I'd upgrade in a heartbeat in some of those scenarios.

You obviously did not hear him during that press conference.
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Post#1267 » by sogood » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:22 pm

Psubs wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265477/Nets-Considering-Trade-Of-Nic-Claxton

Nicolas Claxton for David Johnson or Malachi Flynn? Svi, David Johnson and cash?

Get Claxton's early bird rights.


lmao they're not going to just give him away. There will be plenty of teams willing to give up actual value for a young athletic rim protector.
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Post#1268 » by Jouissance » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:11 pm

I can't remember if it was William Lou or Blake who mentioned him in passing, but I'd love to get Justin Holiday if he comes cheap. He's 32 , but only making $6M this year and next...though the $6M is a tough number for the Raps to hit, so I guess it would have to be a three team deal. Still, a low cost upgrade who can shoot, defend, and dribble at least a little is what I'd be looking for.
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Post#1269 » by agkagk » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:47 pm

Jouissance wrote:I can't remember if it was William Lou or Blake who mentioned him in passing, but I'd love to get Justin Holiday if he comes cheap. He's 32 , but only making $6M this year and next...though the $6M is a tough number for the Raps to hit, so I guess it would have to be a three team deal. Still, a low cost upgrade who can shoot, defend, and dribble at least a little is what I'd be looking for.



Ya, I get it that we’re looking to build up our asset base, so we’re probably limited to svi, flynn, dragic and a 2nd round pick or two.

We need a backup guard who can play 20 minutes a game in the worst way.
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Post#1270 » by Jouissance » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:58 pm

agkagk wrote:
Jouissance wrote:I can't remember if it was William Lou or Blake who mentioned him in passing, but I'd love to get Justin Holiday if he comes cheap. He's 32 , but only making $6M this year and next...though the $6M is a tough number for the Raps to hit, so I guess it would have to be a three team deal. Still, a low cost upgrade who can shoot, defend, and dribble at least a little is what I'd be looking for.



Ya, I get it that we’re looking to build up our asset base, so we’re probably limited to svi, flynn, dragic and a 2nd round pick or two.

We need a backup guard who can play 20 minutes a game in the worst way.


We really do. And I think people are sleeping on how much having one would increase the value of our players...the lane is so ridiculously clogged right now that it is lowering everyone's percentages, which tangibly hurts their value. (Not to mention the effect that winning has on player value.)
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Post#1271 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:13 pm

For all this hype around the deadline I am mentally prepping myself for the Svi Mykhailiuk to Utah for a SRP kinda day and Dragic being bought out the next day.
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Post#1272 » by agkagk » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:29 pm

Jouissance wrote:
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Jouissance wrote:I can't remember if it was William Lou or Blake who mentioned him in passing, but I'd love to get Justin Holiday if he comes cheap. He's 32 , but only making $6M this year and next...though the $6M is a tough number for the Raps to hit, so I guess it would have to be a three team deal. Still, a low cost upgrade who can shoot, defend, and dribble at least a little is what I'd be looking for.



Ya, I get it that we’re looking to build up our asset base, so we’re probably limited to svi, flynn, dragic and a 2nd round pick or two.

We need a backup guard who can play 20 minutes a game in the worst way.


We really do. And I think people are sleeping on how much having one would increase the value of our players...the lane is so ridiculously clogged right now that it is lowering everyone's percentages, which tangibly hurts their value. (Not to mention the effect that winning has on player value.)


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Post#1273 » by execoftheyear » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:44 pm

Turner's value might've tanked a bit with the recent injury, perfect opportunity to go after him
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Post#1274 » by Ell Curry » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:56 pm

sogood wrote:
Psubs wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265477/Nets-Considering-Trade-Of-Nic-Claxton

Nicolas Claxton for David Johnson or Malachi Flynn? Svi, David Johnson and cash?

Get Claxton's early bird rights.


lmao they're not going to just give him away. There will be plenty of teams willing to give up actual value for a young athletic rim protector.


Yeah, our path to Claxton is probably Boucher + Svi for Claxton + Jevon Carter + Millsap or some bigger deal involving Joe Harris, like this:

Team X - Joe Harris
Nets - Boucher, 10M player from Team X
Raptors - 5-9M player from Team X, Claxton

Maybe Horton-Tucker and Nunn are involved, maybe the Nets like Harris more than Monte Morris and Jamychal though I doubt it.

I think the first one is likelier. Nets save 3M or so from dropping Carter too, so if Harden leaves they actually have about 12-15M in cap room to get a replacement or at least save luxury tax money. If Harden leaves AND they trade Joe Harris for an expiring like the rumoured Rubio deal, they'd actually have close to 30M to replace Harden if he bolts.
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Post#1275 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:15 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:For all this hype around the deadline I am mentally prepping myself for the Svi Mykhailiuk to Utah for a SRP kinda day and Dragic being bought out the next day.


I'll be thrilled if some team gives up a 2nd for Svi
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Post#1276 » by Ackshun » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:44 pm

ash_k wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
ash_k wrote:Do you actually follow the team or not?!
If you actually do then you know how Masai feels about Precious ("you are mine now"): Thus do you really think 5 months later Vice Chairman could include him in any trade?!


So we think, because Masai complimented/flattered an employee, he won't trade him?

I do that **** all the time and I'd upgrade in a heartbeat in some of those scenarios.

You obviously did not hear him during that press conference.


Yup you got me there. I cant find any video of it, just a few articles.

Still think Masai is too busy savvy to let emotions get in the way. If a good deal is on the table, I'm guessing Masai and Bobby listen.
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Post#1277 » by aminiaturebuddha » Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:38 am

I've seen people mention Bagley a bunch, but if there's any player on Sacramento we should be targeting, it's Harrison Barnes. He would help in the shooting and spacing department - he's basically been a 40% 3-pt shooter for the past 4 years.

There's lots of talk that Sacramento wants to move on from his salary, which basically matches Dragic's perfectly but he has an extra year. I wonder what else it take to get him when we'd basically be offering one year of salary relief? I wonder if Dragic, Flynn, and a top 20 protected 1st (dropping to top 15 protected next year) would work?
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Post#1278 » by KawhiSoSerious » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:34 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:I've seen people mention Bagley a bunch, but if there's any player on Sacramento we should be targeting, it's Harrison Barnes. He would help in the shooting and spacing department - he's basically been a 40% 3-pt shooter for the past 4 years.

There's lots of talk that Sacramento wants to move on from his salary, which basically matches Dragic's perfectly but he has an extra year. I wonder what else it take to get him when we'd basically be offering one year of salary relief? I wonder if Dragic, Flynn, and a top 20 protected 1st (dropping to top 15 protected next year) would work?


I wouldn't be too eager to give up a first for a non-needle moving player like Barnes when we are rebuilding. Maybe if we were a move or two away from being a real contender and he fit a need perfectly, ala Gasol in the Memphis trade.
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Post#1279 » by aminiaturebuddha » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:40 am

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aminiaturebuddha wrote:I've seen people mention Bagley a bunch, but if there's any player on Sacramento we should be targeting, it's Harrison Barnes. He would help in the shooting and spacing department - he's basically been a 40% 3-pt shooter for the past 4 years.

There's lots of talk that Sacramento wants to move on from his salary, which basically matches Dragic's perfectly but he has an extra year. I wonder what else it take to get him when we'd basically be offering one year of salary relief? I wonder if Dragic, Flynn, and a top 20 protected 1st (dropping to top 15 protected next year) would work?


I wouldn't be too eager to give up a first for a non-needle moving player like Barnes when we are rebuilding. Maybe if we were a move or two away from being a real contender and he fit a need perfectly, ala Gasol in the Memphis trade.

Yeah, that's why I would want that 1st heavily protected. But maybe even that is too much.
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Post#1280 » by isyed » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:41 am

I think we might pivot in the off-season to go after Beal. If we end up getting to the 6th spot and the wizards drop out off the playoffs again masai might go hard at Beal. Sign and trade is the primary option while we could potentially squeeze out some more cap space if the wizards don't want to play nice. If they do we could offer the following :

GTjr
Birch
Flynn
Svi
2023 future first

For a sign and trade Beal

If wizards don't want to play nice we could easily move GTjr without any draft capital attached to any team with capspace.

Birch should be movable with a future first or Flynn attached. Svi should be movable with a future second attached if we need to.

This barely gives us room to squeeze Beal if he like sour pitch. I would still do a 2+1 deal so that we can max him out in c ouole years so that he gets paid.

Our team becomes a bit barebone but the talent level increases significantly plus add another top 20 pick this year.

Sign and trade would allow us the following:

Fvv/Banton
Beal/2022 1st rounder
Og/champagnei
Siakam
Barnes/precious

We still have rights to resign Boucher, use the full MLE for a bench player and use the Bi-annual to get more vet depth.

Beal gives us a closer and we still have Barnes/Banton/precious/2022 1st rounder as our young guys.

Fvv/Banton/BAE
Beal/2022 1st rounder
Og/champagnei
Siakam/Precious
Barnes/Mle


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