Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II

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It's just that he's 6'8 but Kris Murray is likely a better prospect. Bufkin is quicker but 6'4 SG isn't the best size, but might be a better prospect than Terquavion Smith.

I'm not familiar with Kobe Bufkin, but what's wrong with with Jett. Shoots the 3 and handles the ball like a 2guard but is also 6'8 and doesn't look like a pylon on defense. Seems like an ideal Raptor candidate

Jett's ceiling is a 6'8 poor man's Gary Trent Jr. IMO.

Well his floor is Cam Reddish. Late 1st round value.

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Let's be real guys, replacing Achiuwa with TJD would be like upgrading from a Kia to a Maserati.

Hmmmm, similar age. Might prefer TJD to not shoot the 3 than Achiuwa putting up bricks.

Though Precious has increased his FT % like 10% each year, 50, 60, 70. lol next year 80% If only Poeltl could do that.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

My guy Hendricks is like watching poetry. What a BEAST! He’s going to be the guy every team envy’s you for having. Like Jonathan Isaac without the crazy. Actual GM’s aren’t asleep like these mock draft guys. He’s top 5 quite easily. The only guys I’m taking in front of him are Wemby, Scoot, Brandon Miller, and there might be an argument for Jarace but despite what I said earlier he might have surpassed Jarace in my mind.

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My guy Hendricks is like watching poetry. What a BEAST! He’s going to be the guy every team envy’s you for having. Like Jonathan Isaac without the crazy. Actual GM’s aren’t asleep like these mock draft guys. He’s top 5 quite easily. The only guys I’m taking in front of him are Wemby, Scoot, Brandon Miller, and there might be an argument for Jarace but despite what I said earlier he might have surpassed Jarace in my mind.

He outplayed Jarace twice this season head to head.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Hendricks shoots like the bucket is large and the ball is small every time. Just like Tobias Harris now is, I think he ends up around a 50/40 shooter in the NBA and will be an above average defender. He looks like a #2 offensive option to me, doesn't have a tight enough handle to be able to self-create well in all situations but his jumpshot is advanced whether it's catch and shoot, pullup, fadeaway.

His defensive ability right now isn't really anything more than slightly above average for a college freshman. He shows flashes but has a lot of lapses. That's the area of his game where you have concerns if he'll piece it together and become a plus defender. But you're getting a very good prospect who will be able to score with top efficiency for an NBA forward. He's going to have a very good career and be an integral part of a franchise's core of players and you can win with him.

[God Squad]

I'm a little upset that Taylor Hendricks will likely be out of our range. Especially because no one else really "wows me".

I don think its over quite yet.

Unfortunately, I can't see us losing to either OKC or Minnesota (though a loss to either of these teams would be huge) but we should take an L to the Bucks and HOPEFULLY Indiana. Also, the Pistons tend to have our number.

If we could go 2-3 over the next 5, that would really help. Utah has a rough 5 game run coming up.. we may not be able to catch them but one of those games are against OKC! So regardless of who wins, we should gain a little ground there.

If Washington can win even two of their upcoming 5, while we go 2-3, we could be in the convo for the 9ish pick.

The Taylor Hendricks dream is over. I don't even care what mocks say TBH, because they're wrong more often than not. Taylor Hendricks will likely go top 10. We're not gonna be in position to get him, I don't think.

I have others I like, but they have more warts.

[WuTang_CMB]

Hendricks has a solid floor already playing good defense and hitting 3's. Hard to find that. Low bust potential. And he has a high ceiling. Definitely could see him cracking top 10 when workouts start. Jalen Williams last year was projected in the early 2nd then early 20s and ended up 12. Going to be the same for Hendricks.

[Rapsfan07]

I'm a little upset that Taylor Hendricks will likely be out of our range. Especially because no one else really "wows me".

I don think its over quite yet.

Unfortunately, I can't see us losing to either OKC or Minnesota (though a loss to either of these teams would be huge) but we should take an L to the Bucks and HOPEFULLY Indiana. Also, the Pistons tend to have our number.

If we could go 2-3 over the next 5, that would really help. Utah has a rough 5 game run coming up.. we may not be able to catch them but one of those games are against OKC! So regardless of who wins, we should gain a little ground there.

If Washington can win even two of their upcoming 5, while we go 2-3, we could be in the convo for the 9ish pick.

The Taylor Hendricks dream is over. I don't even care what mocks say TBH, because they're wrong more often than not. Taylor Hendricks will likely go top 10. We're not gonna be in position to get him, I don't think.

I have others I like, but they have more warts.

I'm not believing that.

We're within striking distance of the a Top 10. It's still possible.

Wemby, Scoot, Miller, the Twins, Walker and Whitmore should all go ahead of him. that's 7. All we need is for a for two teams to like Dick, Black, George or Smith more than Hendricks.

We also need to throw a couple games here if we're serious about our future.

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Hendricks shoots like the bucket is large and the ball is small every time. Just like Tobias Harris now is, I think he ends up around a 50/40 shooter in the NBA and will be an above average defender. He looks like a #2 offensive option to me, doesn't have a tight enough handle to be able to self-create well in all situations but his jumpshot is advanced whether it's catch and shoot, pullup, fadeaway.

His defensive ability right now isn't really anything more than slightly above average for a college freshman. He shows flashes but has a lot of lapses. That's the area of his game where you have concerns if he'll piece it together and become a plus defender. But you're getting a very good prospect who will be able to score with top efficiency for an NBA forward. He's going to have a very good career and be an integral part of a franchise's core of players and you can win with him.

OMG Tobias Harris that blocks shots and plays slightly above average defense!

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[grant101]

Hendricks shoots like the bucket is large and the ball is small every time. Just like Tobias Harris now is, I think he ends up around a 50/40 shooter in the NBA and will be an above average defender. He looks like a #2 offensive option to me, doesn't have a tight enough handle to be able to self-create well in all situations but his jumpshot is advanced whether it's catch and shoot, pullup, fadeaway.

His defensive ability right now isn't really anything more than slightly above average for a college freshman. He shows flashes but has a lot of lapses. That's the area of his game where you have concerns if he'll piece it together and become a plus defender. But you're getting a very good prospect who will be able to score with top efficiency for an NBA forward. He's going to have a very good career and be an integral part of a franchise's core of players and you can win with him.

OMG Tobias Harris that blocks shots and plays slightly above average defense!

I don't like the Tobias comp. Tobias has way more of an on-ball game than Hendricks. Though Hendricks might have a prettier shot for this stage of his career (than Tobias), and I think his floor is really high. That said, it's going to take a lot of work & reps for Hendricks to develop into any sort of a threat if he's run off the line, and it's not like he supplements his lack of onball scoring with playmaking. He replicates a lot of what we already have on this roster, but with better shooting. I definitely see the case for drafting him, but I don't see the ceiling-raiser a lot of folks are seeing.

[Rapsfan07]

Hendricks shoots like the bucket is large and the ball is small every time. Just like Tobias Harris now is, I think he ends up around a 50/40 shooter in the NBA and will be an above average defender. He looks like a #2 offensive option to me, doesn't have a tight enough handle to be able to self-create well in all situations but his jumpshot is advanced whether it's catch and shoot, pullup, fadeaway.

His defensive ability right now isn't really anything more than slightly above average for a college freshman. He shows flashes but has a lot of lapses. That's the area of his game where you have concerns if he'll piece it together and become a plus defender. But you're getting a very good prospect who will be able to score with top efficiency for an NBA forward. He's going to have a very good career and be an integral part of a franchise's core of players and you can win with him.

OMG Tobias Harris that blocks shots and plays slightly above average defense!

I don't like the Tobias comp. Tobias has way more of an on-ball game than Hendricks. Though Hendricks might have a prettier shot for this stage of his career (than Tobias), and I think his floor is really high. That said, it's going to take a lot of work & reps for Hendricks to develop into any sort of a threat if he's run off the line, and it's not like he supplements his lack of onball scoring with playmaking. He replicates a lot of what we already have on this roster, but with better shooting. I definitely see the case for drafting him, but I don't see the ceiling-raiser a lot of folks are seeing.

I couldn't agree more.

But he is, in my opinion, the best prospect in that of the draft other than Cason Wallace. I'd like to have both if possible but if not, better to have a higher pick so we can actually have a choice instead of being forced to take one or the other.

I like Hendricks a lot but if I had to pick today which one I'd take, I think I'd go with Wallace. They're similar tiered prospects but Wallace fills a position of need.

[HumbleRen]

I don't think we should be looking at these prospects for ceiling raisers. We need to draft for talent + strengthen our weaknesses.

That ceiling raiser method is more so for guys in the top 7 range, not 9-14 range.

[Yallbecrazy]

I'm coming around on Cissoko, I still don't know how to compare G league stats, but the 3pt% is a lot more translatable vs college as its the same distance so with work he could end up being decent. None of his stats pop out other than the passing, but there aren't really any red flags other than the 67% FT not being ideal (still not a red flag). Being all round decent and young + athletic shows good potential.

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Not a huge fan that they always try to put white players on either Boston or Utah. The same reasons that Utah could use Dick is the same reasons we could use Dick. If we wanted an inconsistent chucker we could keep GTJr.

Also seems like Lively is finally moving up the draft board. I would take him over a Koloko any day for his defense and finishing around the rim. 7'1" defensive monster.

[grant101]

I don't think we should be looking at these prospects for ceiling raisers. We need to draft for talent + strengthen our weaknesses.

That ceiling raiser method is more so for guys in the top 7 range, not 9-14 range.

I have no problem with this approach (though it's arguable how much Hendricks addresses our weaknesses, outside of catch & shoot 3pt shooting), though I personally really enjoy having those high potential pieces on the roster. For example, I'm irrationally high on Bilal Coulibaly at the moment

[Ell Curry]

I don't think we should be looking at these prospects for ceiling raisers. We need to draft for talent + strengthen our weaknesses.

That ceiling raiser method is more so for guys in the top 7 range, not 9-14 range.

I think ideally, assuming we pick 12 or 13, a perimeter guy falls to us (Smith, Black, Dick, Wallace) and we just grab him and hope. Also wouldn't rule out Masai trading the pick and Otto Porter for like Terrence Mann and everyone getting mad.