2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

[Mark_83]

I can already sense it - people are going to overthink it and there will be some unexpected droppers available at the Pacers pick (e.g. Castle, Cody Williams, Ron Holland). The only question is whether we take advantage like we did OG, or miss the boat like we did with Bane.

If Holland somehow falls (he won't), I'd be all over that. He's a safe bet to contribute on both sides of the ball even if the jumpshot doesn't improve, but I think it will.

[Yeezus_]

When I watch Edey, I see a skilled big man but also one that's slow footed. Isn't that going to limit him in the NBA when footspeed for a big is one of the biggest things that keep them on the floor? I dont get the rise in his stock, hoping someone can explain it to me.

[dohboy_24]

If any one of the following players are available to be selected at the Pacers pick, we should not hesitate to choose them:

Guards (G):
Ja'Kobe Walter
Stephon Castle

Forwards (F):
Ron Holland
Tidjane Salaun
Matas Buzelis
Cody Williams

Centers (C):
Donovan Clingan
Kyle Filipowski

Aside from the above, players like Jared McCain, Isiah Collier, Dalton Knecht, Yves Missi, Tyler Smith, Kel'el Ware, Johnny Furphy, Carlton Carrington, and Kyshawn George could be added to the above list depending on how you evaluate them, but I think any of the above eight (8) would be ideal should they still be available when we're on the clock with the Pacers pick.

[grant101]

I can already sense it - people are going to overthink it and there will be some unexpected droppers available at the Pacers pick (e.g. Castle, Cody Williams, Ron Holland). The only question is whether we take advantage like we did OG, or miss the boat like we did with Bane.

Cody won't be there, depending on how the draft plays out, I'd take him at 6

You're probably right. I'm not suggesting that all three will be there at 16-17. I just think that there are 'safer' higher floor players that front offices will talk themselves into as being safe bets as rotation pieces in what is considered a weak draft (e.g. Dalton Knecht, Da silva, Devin Carter, Clingan, Edey, Missi, Filipowski etc.). I just think someone unexpected will be squeezed out of the lottery. I picked those guys as they all have holes/questions that might prevent GMs from pulling the trigger.

[ItsDanger]

When I watch Edey, I see a skilled big man but also one that's slow footed. Isn't that going to limit him in the NBA when footspeed for a big is one of the biggest things that keep them on the floor? I dont get the rise in his stock, hoping someone can explain it to me.

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His speed is similar to many other bigs in NBA. In college, he has to pace himself to play 30-35 (out of 40) minutes every game while staying out of foul trouble. This clip is after playing the first 15 minutes of game, no rest.

[billy_hoyle]

When I watch Edey, I see a skilled big man but also one that's slow footed. Isn't that going to limit him in the NBA when footspeed for a big is one of the biggest things that keep them on the floor? I dont get the rise in his stock, hoping someone can explain it to me.

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His speed is similar to many other bigs in NBA. In college, he has to pace himself to play 30-35 (out of 40) minutes every game while staying out of foul trouble. This clip is after playing the first 15 minutes of game, no rest.

Are we sure he can't play the 4?

[ItsDanger]

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Can defend, do it all combo guard. If Raps want to compete quickly, isn't this the kind of player they should be targeting?

[grant101]

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Can defend, do it all combo guard. If Raps want to compete quickly, isn't this the kind of player they should be targeting?

The alleged off the court stuff is heinous. He might not even be able to enter the country depending on what happens with his trial.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I’m willing to be shocked my Cody Williams but I’m not seeing a lottery talent

[Mark_83]

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Can defend, do it all combo guard. If Raps want to compete quickly, isn't this the kind of player they should be targeting?

I'm not sure how comfortable Masai and MLSE would be drafting a guy who's being charged with sexual assault.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/what-to-know-about-terrence-shannon-jr-s-rape-arrest-as-illinois-plays-in-2024-ncaa-tournament/

Shannon is charged with one count of rape or an alternative count of sexual battery after a woman alleged that he grabbed her buttocks, reached under her skirt and touched her inappropriately on Sept. 8 in Lawrence, Kansas.

[ItsDanger]

Shannon has a preliminary hearing on May 10 at which point the judge will decide if case proceeds based on the merit of evidence provided to the court. We'll know more about the case then. Until that point, these are allegations.

[Dalek]

I am a bit surprised that I have come around to him, but I think Jared McCain with the Pacers pick is rock solid to me. He has legit NBA range and watching his game he has some solid creation ability (better than Sheppard) and the defense is much better than Dillingham. He just has the star aura about him.

Lotto - I am more and more convinced that Clingan is a game changer. He is getting healthier, and maybe there is a health risk, but I haven't seen a defensive anchor like this in a while.

For the Detroit pick I think Tristan da Silva is the best option. He is extremely well-rounded. Alex Karaban or Keyshawn George are also good options.

[Psubs]

I am a bit surprised that I have come around to him, but I think Jared McCain with the Pacers pick is rock solid to me. He has legit NBA range and watching his game he has some solid creation ability (better than Sheppard) and the defense is much better than Dillingham. He just has the star aura about him.

Lotto - I am more and more convinced that Clingan is a game changer. He is getting healthier, and maybe there is a health risk, but I haven't seen a defensive anchor like this in a while.

For the Detroit pick I think Tristan da Silva is the best option. He is extremely well-rounded. Alex Karaban or Keyshawn George are also good options.

I think would not be good enough to start in the future. I think KJ Simpson would have the potential to start, same with Carrington. With Simpson it could be like a Lillard/McCollum situation with IQ also not of SG size.

[ItsDanger]

I am a bit surprised that I have come around to him, but I think Jared McCain with the Pacers pick is rock solid to me. He has legit NBA range and watching his game he has some solid creation ability (better than Sheppard) and the defense is much better than Dillingham. He just has the star aura about him.

Lotto - I am more and more convinced that Clingan is a game changer. He is getting healthier, and maybe there is a health risk, but I haven't seen a defensive anchor like this in a while.

For the Detroit pick I think Tristan da Silva is the best option. He is extremely well-rounded. Alex Karaban or Keyshawn George are also good options.

Clingan just seems like a perfect fit for OKC.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I can already sense it - people are going to overthink it and there will be some unexpected droppers available at the Pacers pick (e.g. Castle, Cody Williams, Ron Holland). The only question is whether we take advantage like we did OG, or miss the boat like we did with Bane.

Cody won't be there, depending on how the draft plays out, I'd take him at 6

You're probably right. I'm not suggesting that all three will be there at 16-17. I just think that there are 'safer' higher floor players that front offices will talk themselves into as being safe bets as rotation pieces in what is considered a weak draft (e.g. Dalton Knecht, Da silva, Devin Carter, Clingan, Edey, Missi, Filipowski etc.). I just think someone unexpected will be squeezed out of the lottery. I picked those guys as they all have holes/questions that might prevent GMs from pulling the trigger.

Even still, Bane was considered a low upside pick and didn't really slide. He wasn't a Green Room invitee. Guys that slide out of the lotto sometimes hit, mostly don't. There's so few lucky strikes out of the lotto as is. I think in the last decade only D Murray and Allen were Green Room invitees to make the all-star game.

My theory is that a surprise in the NBA draft is a surprise to everyone. There's no formula or skill to the 'steal.'

[Dalek]

I am a bit surprised that I have come around to him, but I think Jared McCain with the Pacers pick is rock solid to me. He has legit NBA range and watching his game he has some solid creation ability (better than Sheppard) and the defense is much better than Dillingham. He just has the star aura about him.

Lotto - I am more and more convinced that Clingan is a game changer. He is getting healthier, and maybe there is a health risk, but I haven't seen a defensive anchor like this in a while.

For the Detroit pick I think Tristan da Silva is the best option. He is extremely well-rounded. Alex Karaban or Keyshawn George are also good options.

I think would not be good enough to start in the future. I think KJ Simpson would have the potential to start, same with Carrington. With Simpson it could be like a Lillard/McCollum situation with IQ also not of SG size.

Simpson is a guy I really like but he is 6'1 - he looked smaller than Kolek for sure. The fact that he couldn't stop Kolek was eye-opening. To me, Simpson is really poised but small guards struggle in the NBA despite great college careers like Malachi Flynn.

Carrington is awesome, but I think he will lean towards going back. He has some major issues getting to the rim and his shooting is streaky.

The reason I really like McCain is he really keeps outperforming Proctor and Loach and is a really strong shooter in every offball situation and he has a fairly strong looking body. I just think he is answers the call as a clutch shooter and is a really marketable player.

[Psubs]

I am a bit surprised that I have come around to him, but I think Jared McCain with the Pacers pick is rock solid to me. He has legit NBA range and watching his game he has some solid creation ability (better than Sheppard) and the defense is much better than Dillingham. He just has the star aura about him.

Lotto - I am more and more convinced that Clingan is a game changer. He is getting healthier, and maybe there is a health risk, but I haven't seen a defensive anchor like this in a while.

For the Detroit pick I think Tristan da Silva is the best option. He is extremely well-rounded. Alex Karaban or Keyshawn George are also good options.

Clingan just seems like a perfect fit for OKC.

Same for New Orleans. One will take Clingan and the other take Filipowski.

[Ado05]

This draft is complete ****.

[XTC]

Clingan is really intriguing. 7-2, 7-7 wingspan (reported), and a 9-6 (standing reach). Big body, soft touch, rim protector (great timing), good passing (I think he can be a passing hub), and be moves decent for a guy so big.

Defensively he really reminds me of Marc Gasol. Not the quickest guy, but his IQ is off the charts and his size allows him to cover so much space. If he learns how to shoot 3's, some team is going to be a steal.

I'm a big fan. He has tons of Brook Lopez and Marc Gasol in his game. If he never learns to shoot he tops out as a Steven Adams IMO.

[Dalek]

Clingan is really intriguing. 7-2, 7-7 wingspan (reported), and a 9-6 (standing reach). Big body, soft touch, rim protector (great timing), good passing (I think he can be a passing hub), and be moves decent for a guy so big.

Defensively he really reminds me of Marc Gasol. Not the quickest guy, but his IQ is off the charts and his size allows him to cover so much space. If he learns how to shoot 3's, some team is going to be a steal.

I'm a big fan. He has tons of Brook Lopez and Marc Gasol in his game. If he never learns to shoot he tops out as a Steven Adams IMO.

I see the Gasol type of potential. He is an important piece on a basically NBA level team. He impacts the game without a ton of touches, and plays a lot of mixed coverages. I just worry about the feet. I don't like tendon injuries in feet, but his minutes are increasing.