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With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter!

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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1261 » by Tripod » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:49 pm

Keep them both and let their development dictate what happens in the coming years.

Unless of course we move one for a backup C with similar upside
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1262 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:53 pm

Tripod wrote:Keep them both and let their development dictate what happens in the coming years.

Unless of course we move one for a backup C with similar upside


Yeah exactly, there is no rush.

3rd year Dick should give us a good indicator. By year 3, Dick should be a solid and positive contributor or at least clear signs he's trending that way.

If Walter is on his heels or passing him next season, the decision is obvious.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1263 » by Duffman100 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:55 pm

Walter month by month 3P%,

November - 17%
December - 30%
January - 33%
February - 39%

Nice to see that progression.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1264 » by pingpongrac » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:20 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Walter month by month 3P%,

November - 17%
December - 30%
January - 33%
February - 39%

Nice to see that progression.


Awfully similar to Gradey’s shooting last season (24% in the first 20 games then 40% the rest of the way). I’m excited to see where those two will be at next season. JKW has pretty consistently given us solid minutes since becoming a staple in the rotation in late November.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1265 » by hype_2004 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:33 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Walter month by month 3P%,

November - 17%
December - 30%
January - 33%
February - 39%

Nice to see that progression.


Yes the kid has a good touch from 3 and he will only get better. He really needs to work on his strength once he gets stronger everything will come much easier, fighting screens, setting screens and finishing on contact. He has the demeanor of a 10 year vet and looks like he's really coachable and willing to learn and get better, great pick and could be steal down the road.
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Post#1266 » by C_Money » Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:50 pm

I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.
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Post#1267 » by Deadpool Raptor » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:53 pm

C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


If we're wishing stuff, lets use it for making him a little bit taller - can't teach that.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1268 » by MEDIC » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:13 pm

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


If we're wishing stuff, lets use it for making him a little bit taller - can't teach that.


His length is actually good for a 2 guard. He has the same standing reach aa RJ.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1269 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:18 pm

C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Speed isn't required for shot creation if the player is clever and/or strong. Guys like Luka, Harden, and Kawhi are slow as molases but can get off any shot they want. Not that JaKobe has their basketball IQ or size either, I'm just pointing out that shot creation can come in different forms.
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Post#1270 » by TakeYourHeart » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:25 pm

C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.

He plays at his own pace, I like it. Pretty composed on-ball.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1271 » by Thaddy » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:27 pm

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Speed isn't required for shot creation if the player is clever and/or strong. Guys like Luka, Harden, and Kawhi are slow as molases but can get off any shot they want.

He has a huge wingspan it's 6'10".

He's just a much better player than Gradey, he gets a lot more deflections, contests better at the rim, and he has a low turnover rate. If you look at his OPM and DPM across LEBRON, DARKO, and DRIP his production is similar to Risacher's.

In February with 24 mins a game Jakobe is averaging 10/3/1 and 1 steal a game and he's shooting 39% from 3pt range while being 62th percentile in 3pt volume (Dick is 69th for comparison).

I think he has a creation ability, he's shown he can get to the FT. He was good at it in the high school level, and that's a good representation of what players usually become in the league.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#1272 » by Boogie! » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:33 pm

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Speed isn't required for shot creation if the player is clever and/or strong. Guys like Luka, Harden, and Kawhi are slow as molases but can get off any shot they want. Not that JaKobe has their basketball IQ or size either, I'm just pointing out that shot creation can come in different forms.


Kawhi can’t be considered slow in the way that hinders athletes. In his prime kawhi was pretty quick and explosive. He also has a good first step.
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Post#1273 » by Badonkadonk » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:38 pm

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Speed isn't required for shot creation if the player is clever and/or strong. Guys like Luka, Harden, and Kawhi are slow as molases but can get off any shot they want. Not that JaKobe has their basketball IQ or size either, I'm just pointing out that shot creation can come in different forms.

I agree, and a better indicator of shot creation is FTs created, which is a big strength of his and something Bobby also cited when they drafted him.

He has craft, it'd be nice but he doesn't need to be as fast as guys like Maxey to be a complete scorer.
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Post#1274 » by Deadpool Raptor » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:41 pm

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


If we're wishing stuff, lets use it for making him a little bit taller - can't teach that.


His length is actually good for a 2 guard. He has the same standing reach aa RJ.


Well to me, he's already a baller... wonder what we wish for next...
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Post#1275 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:02 am

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.

He plays at his own pace, I like it. Pretty composed on-ball.


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Post#1276 » by Tripod » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:26 am

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.

He plays at his own pace, I like it. Pretty composed on-ball.

He is young RJ. Lots of similarities
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Post#1277 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:30 am

C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Yeah, I've noticed he doesn't get a ton of separation after attacking closeouts and driving from the corner, which is a shame since he's quite good at the timing of that and enough of a shooting threat to make teams run him off the 3pt line, but then the first step doesn't actually get him past the defender and he ends up throwing up a hook, though he does get into the paint, which is something to build off of with counter moves (change of pace, drawing fouls) and passing at least.

This is vibe-based and dumb, but when an average (so decent to good) look at a 3 goes up from Quickley, Walter or Battle, I do expect it to go in.
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Post#1278 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:51 am

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Post#1279 » by mihaic » Sat Feb 15, 2025 12:35 am

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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Yeah, I've noticed he doesn't get a ton of separation after attacking closeouts and driving from the corner, which is a shame since he's quite good at the timing of that and enough of a shooting threat to make teams run him off the 3pt line, but then the first step doesn't actually get him past the defender and he ends up throwing up a hook, though he does get into the paint, which is something to build off of with counter moves (change of pace, drawing fouls) and passing at least.

This is vibe-based and dumb, but when an average (so decent to good) look at a 3 goes up from Quickley, Walter or Battle, I do expect it to go in.

I feel like 90% of RJs threes from the right side are in when he's open.
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Post#1280 » by Ell Curry » Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:06 am

mihaic wrote:
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C_Money wrote:I just wish he was faster. I don’t think he’ll ever have much shot creation ability which means he really needs to work on his shooting.


Yeah, I've noticed he doesn't get a ton of separation after attacking closeouts and driving from the corner, which is a shame since he's quite good at the timing of that and enough of a shooting threat to make teams run him off the 3pt line, but then the first step doesn't actually get him past the defender and he ends up throwing up a hook, though he does get into the paint, which is something to build off of with counter moves (change of pace, drawing fouls) and passing at least.

This is vibe-based and dumb, but when an average (so decent to good) look at a 3 goes up from Quickley, Walter or Battle, I do expect it to go in.

I feel like 90% of RJs threes from the right side are in when he's open.


Agbaji and RJ are shooting good and okay, respectively, from the corners. In theory if Poeltl, one of Barnes/Ingram and Quickley are out there with them and those guys are in the corners, we should have a decent offense.
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