Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 7

Post #1281 » by **5DOM** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:21 am

We basically trade everyone outside those two for a major upgrade at one of the 3 remaining positions.

Post #1282 » by **The Duke** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:23 am

Trades dont go on trees.

Trades of "2 of Bargs/Ed/Amir for a SF or PG" will not be easy ones.
Also they wont be young players your getting in return.

I would be fine sporting Val/AD/Bargs/DD/Jose

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #1283 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:25 am

5DOM wrote:We basically trade everyone outside those two for a major upgrade at one of the 3 remaining positions.

Yeah, I'm with you on that. James Harden, to me, would be the quintessential SG in that he can both score and pass in the pick-'n-roll with Davis and Valanciunas. Maybe, Eric Gordon would be another guy, if he checks out fine health-wise?

PowerPhil15 · Post #1284 » by **PowerPhil15** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:34 am

The Duke wrote:Trades dont go on trees.

Trades of "2 of Bargs/Ed/Amir for a SF or PG" will not be easy ones.
Also they wont be young players your getting in return.

I would be fine sporting Val/AD/Bargs/DD/Jose

Well that means we would be trading Ed and Amir, which is exactly what i meant by trading two of Bargs/Ed/Amir. I agree that keeping bargs would be the best from all three, especially since he continues to improve.

Amir and Ed might be hard to move, but I think if next year we are really trying to make a push next year, I dont think it would be such a bad thing to take back players that for example have overpaid contracts (as long as they are effective players). This will make for easier transactions, and still achieve our goals to get a pg (sign nash for example) and small forward (move ed, amir, and filler if needed for an overpaid small forward that is effective such as granger)

jvalanciunas · Post #1285 » by **jvalanciunas** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:35 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Gotta say, Davis and Valanciunas has the potential to be a DOMINANT 4/5 pairing. How would y'all go about constructing a team around those two?

im starting to loose faith with Davis. i wish we could see more blocks from him

ballislife · Post #1286 » by **ballislife** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:35 am

The first priority with all those bigs would be to use the assets to acquire a great PG. I think we'd have to deal both Amir and Ed at first... if we could get a good young PG for Bargs, I'd rather do that instead... he'd probably be able to net us someone pretty good at that position. Possibly someone like Rondo or Curry.

After PG, we need to sign or trade for a legit starting SF in this league. There are a few decent 3's in this FA crop... possibly someone like Jeff Green..

Post #1287 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:48 am

Indeed wrote:
ballislife wrote:I can picture Barnes in a Raptors jersey... I really hope that we can get him if we can't get Davis. He's exactly what we need at the 3, and he's going to be great in the NBA.

I am not sure Barnes is the exact thing at the 3. I see James Johnson as a better fit (without trying to do too much, and capable of making range shots).

Again, everyone think we need another scorer, but when our PG and SG are getting 15 FGA each, there is not many left, particularly we have Jonas and Bargnani with at least 12 FGA each, then your SF and 6th man left with 8 FGA each?

The Raptors need a wing who can be a weakside safety valve when the ball is coming out of a drive-and-kick or double-team in the post. And since the Raptors have no reliable outside shooting threat besides Bargnani at this point, Barnes would easily step right in filling that need. I mean, as great as a utility guy James Johnson is, it's better to have a guy like Barnes who can shoot the ball lights out while giving some solid rebounding and defense at the same time than a guy who does everything just solid.

nahom1319 · Post #1288 » by **nahom1319** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:56 am

jvalanciunas wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Gotta say, Davis and Valanciunas has the potential to be a DOMINANT 4/5 pairing. How would y'all go about constructing a team around those two?

im starting to loose faith with Davis. i wish we could see more blocks from him

Not ed we're talkin Anthony Davis....if you were joking then :lol:

nahom1319 · Post #1289 » by **nahom1319** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:03 am

Undefeated wrote:
Indeed wrote:
ballislife wrote:I can picture Barnes in a Raptors jersey... I really hope that we can get him if we can't get Davis. He's exactly what we need at the 3, and he's going to be great in the NBA.

I am not sure Barnes is the exact thing at the 3. I see James Johnson as a better fit (without trying to do too much, and capable of making range shots).

Again, everyone think we need another scorer, but when our PG and SG are getting 15 FGA each, there is not many left, particularly we have Jonas and Bargnani with at least 12 FGA each, then your SF and 6th man left with 8 FGA each?

The Raptors need a wing who can be a weakside safety valve when the ball is coming out of a drive-and-kick or double-team in the post. And since the Raptors have no reliable outside shooting threat besides Bargnani at this point, Barnes would easily step right in filling that need...

Jose Calderon, Leandro Barbosa and Linas Klieza apparently don't count? Hell even Jerryd is having a good year hitting 3 pointers.

HEKTOR · Post #1290 » by **HEKTOR** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:06 am

I can't see us getting Davis but I think one of MKG or Barnes are realistic and I think both would be great additions.

ballislife · Post #1291 » by **ballislife** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:21 am

When is the draft lottery??

fredericklove · Post #1292 » by **fredericklove** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:25 am

ballislife wrote:When is the draft lottery??

Usually May 17th.

KL78192020 · Post #1293 » by **KL78192020** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:29 am

On a side note, it could be a good year for Canadians with the following guys projected to be at least 1st or 2nd round picks. (Joseph, Kabongo, Sacre, Nicholson)...anyone else?

Post #1294 » by **itbobby007** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:04 pm

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Kevin Willis · Post #1295 » by **Kevin Willis** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:47 pm

Sacre isn't ready yet to declare. he should wait another year.

Post #1296 » by **Marvin!** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:55 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:Sacre isn't ready yet to declare. he should wait another year.

I thought he was a senior this year?

Kevin Willis · Post #1297 » by **Kevin Willis** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:06 pm

Marvin! wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Sacre isn't ready yet to declare. he should wait another year.

I thought he was a senior this year?

Holy ****, he is. He needs to go back for a fifth-year. The games I saw him in he's not as polished in as he should be for a senior. He's definitely not Nicholson who has a refined game.

Man of Steel · Post #1298 » by **Man of Steel** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:39 pm

Scenario:

Picking 6th, Davis, Drummond, Barnes, MKG, Beal are off the board.

Take PJ3 and try to flip one of (PJ, AJ, ED, AB), or look to trade up for one of the aforementioned prospects, or trade the pick plus change for an upgrade at PG.

Seeing PJ3 play over the last 3 games has made it a bit more clear that he plays better as a PF. I can see the Bosh comparisons now, but I think he's a fair bit faster.

Al_Oliver · Post #1299 » by **Al_Oliver** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:01 pm

Marvin! wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Sacre isn't ready yet to declare. he should wait another year.

I thought he was a senior this year?

the comment is still valid...

dagger · Post #1300 » by **dagger** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:05 pm

luisnani wrote:Scenario:

Picking 6th, Davis, Drummond, Barnes, MKG, Beal are off the board.

Take PJ3 and try to flip one of (PJ, AJ, ED, AB), or look to trade up for one of the aforementioned prospects, or trade the pick plus change for an upgrade at PG.

Seeing PJ3 play over the last 3 games has made it a bit more clear that he plays better as a PF. I can see the Bosh comparisons now, but I think he's a fair bit faster.

Right now, DX has dropped Harrison Barnes to #6.