[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

[OakleyDokely]

If Masai really wanted Ayton for OG it would already be done because the suns would do that in a second.

Maybe Ayton for GTJ or VV,.cant see it for OG.

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's just a solid (not great) traditional C making max money. These type of players aren't in huge demand as we saw by the lack of interest in Ayton in the summer.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and OG only makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years. OG is just a better player in the current era on a better deal.

[deeps6x]

I'm going to take a lot of pleasure in watching many of you have a meltdown after Thursday when nothing happens.

It's nothing personal, I'm just your average sadist.

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We have a top 10 pg in Fred
We have a top 15 player in siakam
We have a top 10 young player in Barnes.

We have good young assets in Trent, og and precious.

On paper this is an excellent foundation to build upon. One does not simply blow this up.

Sadist or not, the screaming fan boys have it coming

I spat my tea out after reading what this man said how VV is top 10 pg in the NBA.. also top 15 for Bland P!!! thanks for the good laugh I needed this!!

348 posts in 15 years? Hmmm, this smells like someone created 30 accounts back in 2008 just to log in to various team forums to bash players they want their team to trade for. Do your 20 posts per year consistently appear just before the trade deadline?

[C_Money]

New Orleans seems like the best trade partner for us. We could even get Herbert Jones back who is basically a poor man’s OG anyways. Add in some young players and picks and we’re good.

[Asif16]

If Masai really wanted Ayton for OG it would already be done because the suns would do that in a second.

Maybe Ayton for GTJ or VV,.cant see it for OG.

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's a just solid (not great) traditional C making max money.

These type of players aren't in huge demand.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and he makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years.

Any positive impact OG makes on defense gets neutralized by his horrendous offense. Also, factor in Ayton is 3 yrs younger than OG.

OG and Ayton are dead on in value imo. Both teams can point out flaws in the other player if they please. Young centers are also not easy to come by nowadays.

[Scizzup]

Pelicans are not going to trade both Dyson/Murphy in a trade for O.G. They need good rookie scale contract guys to put around their already expensive trio. O.G does not make them champ favorites anyways. Most of Pelicans twitter media thinks the team would rather trade Murphy in an OG trade instead of Dyson.


If they somehow offer Graham/Herb/Dyson/ top 10 protected LA pick/2nd rounder for OG/filler. You take that. Dyson is going to be a good player. He has natural driving ability and he projects well on defense.

My counter argument would be the Pelicans will want to maximize Zion/BI/CJ while they can.

It's a weak argument, I know.

Yea that's one ,but they would be better off trading Ingram/Dyson/picks for KD. Potentially having 2 top 10 players in the league gives you a much higher chance at winning in these 2-3 years incase you are worried about Zion.

OG is good but if Pelicans are to contend with that group Ingram would have to play like a top 15 player at the least, which he hasn't shown consistently.

Giving up 2 good rookie scale contracts and a pick for OG is kind of crazy. They would be better of just waiting for internal growth since Zion is only 22. 

[James_Raptors]

If Masai really wanted Ayton for OG it would already be done because the suns would do that in a second.

Maybe Ayton for GTJ or VV,.cant see it for OG.

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's just a solid (not great) traditional C making max money. These type of players aren't in huge demand as we saw by the lack of interest in Ayton in the summer.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and OG only makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years. OG is just a better player in the current era on a better deal.

Great post.
You nailed it right on the button.

[OakleyDokely]

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's a just solid (not great) traditional C making max money.

These type of players aren't in huge demand.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and he makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years.

Any positive impact OG makes on defense gets neutralized by his horrendous offense. Also, factor in Ayton is 3 yrs younger than OG.

OG and Ayton are dead on in value imo. Both teams can point out flaws in the other player if they please. Young centers are also not easy to come by nowadays.

OG isn't horrendous offensively. He has average NBA efficiency and he's a career 37% 3pt shooter.

Once Ayton signed his max deal, a deal he's not close to being worth, he lost most of his value.

[deeps6x]

If Masai really wanted Ayton for OG it would already be done because the suns would do that in a second.

Maybe Ayton for GTJ or VV,.cant see it for OG.

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's just a solid (not great) traditional C making max money. These type of players aren't in huge demand as we saw by the lack of interest in Ayton in the summer.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and OG only makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years. OG is just a better player in the current era on a better deal.

I agree. Why would you pay Ayton $32M next year when you could just sign Poeltl for maybe half that. $20M/yr tops.

If we are sending OG out, I want someone like Sharpe back. Someone who 'could' turn into an all star. I don't see that from Ayton. Especially if we are also losing FVV and GTJ.

Someone has to go. I wish it wasn't OG, but he is outplaying what we can afford to pay him when his contract expires.

[will]

Pelicans are not going to trade both Dyson/Murphy in a trade for O.G. They need good rookie scale contract guys to put around their already expensive trio. O.G does not make them champ favorites anyways. Most of Pelicans twitter media thinks the team would rather trade Murphy in an OG trade instead of Dyson.


If they somehow offer Graham/Herb/Dyson/ top 10 protected LA pick/2nd rounder for OG/filler. You take that. Dyson is going to be a good player. He has natural driving ability and he projects well on defense.

My counter argument would be the Pelicans will want to maximize Zion/BI/CJ while they can.

It's a weak argument, I know.

Yea that's one ,but they would be better off trading Ingram/Dyson/picks for KD. Potentially having 2 top 10 players in the league gives you a much higher chance at winning in these 2-3 years incase you are worried about Zion.

OG is good but if Pelicans are to contend with that group Ingram would have to play like a top 15 player at the least, which he hasn't shown consistently.

Giving up 2 good rookie scale contracts and a pick for OG is kind of crazy. They would be better of just waiting for internal growth since Zion is only 22. 

He's 22 years old with the knees the age of a 52 year old.

Trajan Langdon does have an education from Duke, though.

[Asif16]

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's just a solid (not great) traditional C making max money. These type of players aren't in huge demand as we saw by the lack of interest in Ayton in the summer.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and OG only makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years. OG is just a better player in the current era on a better deal.

I agree. Why would you pay Ayton $32M next year when you could just sign Poeltl for maybe half that. $20M/yr tops.

If we are sending OG out, I want someone like Sharpe back. Someone who 'could' turn into an all star. I don't see that from Ayton. Especially if we are also losing FVV and GTJ.

Someone has to go. I wish it wasn't OG, but he is outplaying what we can afford to pay him when his contract expires.

Sharpe is atrocious. Besides his "hops" he's not good at anything else. He's gonna be a glorified bench role player

Ayton is still only 23 yrs old. There's a reason raptors wanted him this past off-season

[agkagk]

We have a top 10 pg in Fred
We have a top 15 player in siakam
We have a top 10 young player in Barnes.

We have good young assets in Trent, og and precious.

On paper this is an excellent foundation to build upon. One does not simply blow this up.

Sadist or not, the screaming fan boys have it coming

I spat my tea out after reading what this man said how VV is top 10 pg in the NBA.. also top 15 for Bland P!!! thanks for the good laugh I needed this!!

348 posts in 15 years? Hmmm, this smells like someone created 30 accounts back in 2008 just to log in to various team forums to bash players they want their team to trade for. Do your 20 posts per year consistently appear just before the trade deadline?

Nah sorry dog I have a job, a girlfriend and a life.

Cool conspiracy though, personally I’m leaning towards “it’s the lizard people”, but that’s just me.

[tripa]

Its possible Ayton has another level he can get to when his environment changes.

But yeah his contract is hard to ignore.

[HumbleRen]

You’re not getting Ayton for OG.


Lmaooo

[TRik]

I spat my tea out after reading what this man said how VV is top 10 pg in the NBA.. also top 15 for Bland P!!! thanks for the good laugh I needed this!!

348 posts in 15 years? Hmmm, this smells like someone created 30 accounts back in 2008 just to log in to various team forums to bash players they want their team to trade for. Do your 20 posts per year consistently appear just before the trade deadline?

Nah sorry dog I have a job, a girlfriend and a life.

Cool conspiracy though, personally I’m leaning towards “it’s the lizard people”, but that’s just me.

I applaud the optimism despite the overwhelming wave of….trades are going to happen because the core sucks together.

[canz55]

It's mostly the case that people want a trade because they're frustrated and bored.

Thankfully professional organizations with integrity aren't managed that way.

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I didn't say I wanted OG gone.

I'm perfectly happy to cut off my nose to spite my face if it means we keep OG.

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[islandboy53]

You’re not getting Ayton for OG.


Lmaooo

Works for me.

[HumbleRen]

You’re not getting Ayton for OG.


Lmaooo

Works for me.

Have no clue why we keep getting linked to them.

They have no back up big and Mikal is a better version of OG.

Masai isn’t going to trade for a non top 5 center who makes a max.

[JRoy]

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's just a solid (not great) traditional C making max money. These type of players aren't in huge demand as we saw by the lack of interest in Ayton in the summer.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and OG only makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years. OG is just a better player in the current era on a better deal.

I agree. Why would you pay Ayton $32M next year when you could just sign Poeltl for maybe half that. $20M/yr tops.

If we are sending OG out, I want someone like Sharpe back. Someone who 'could' turn into an all star. I don't see that from Ayton. Especially if we are also losing FVV and GTJ.

Someone has to go. I wish it wasn't OG, but he is outplaying what we can afford to pay him when his contract expires.

Sharpe is atrocious. Besides his "hops" he's not good at anything else. He's gonna be a glorified bench role player

Ayton is still only 23 yrs old. There's a reason raptors wanted him this past off-season

Sharpe is a great athlete and can drive, pull up and shoot from deep. He gets lost on d sometimes but labeling him atrocious is ridiculous.

He’s a 19 year old rookie with zero college fine on the floor.

Is it possible your expectations might be a bit high?

[Los_29]

You’re not getting Ayton for OG.


Lmaooo

Works for me.

Have no clue why we keep getting linked to them.

They have no back up big and Mikal is a better version of OG.

Masai isn’t going to trade for a non top 5 center who makes a max.

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

[HumbleRen]

Works for me.

Have no clue why we keep getting linked to them.

They have no back up big and Mikal is a better version of OG.

Masai isn’t going to trade for a non top 5 center who makes a max.

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.