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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1281 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:01 pm

Ado05 wrote:This draft is complete ****.


There's definitely a few future stars, but the chances of landing one is gonna be awfully difficult because most of the players are gonna top out as role players.

Our bench has been absolute trash for several years now. So I'm hoping we could add some talent to it.

This would be a good draft for me:
#6 - Dillingham
Pacers pick - McCain

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I'd look forward to watching this team next season:

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Post#1282 » by Reeko » Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:03 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I’m willing to be shocked my Cody Williams but I’m not seeing a lottery talent

Putting up better numbers than his brother at the same age, in a tougher conference. In this draft I don't see how he's not a lottery talent.
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Post#1283 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:11 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I’m willing to be shocked my Cody Williams but I’m not seeing a lottery talent

Putting up better numbers than his brother at the same age, in a tougher conference. In this draft I don't see how he's not a lottery talent.


Although I think maybe Cody is better at the same age I still like Jalen’s skill set more coming out of college. I think JDub was/is a lot better in the PnR and just overall self creation ability. Not to mention longer and substantially stronger looking.

All that said I don’t see him falling out the top 10 (really not out of the top 8). Someone will bite in a draft like this with his brother in mind as a hopeful projection of what they’d hope Cody will become a literal “lite” version of him. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice at 6 but at the same time I wouldn’t complain lol there’s just a few prospects I like more that I’d be hopeful to take instead.
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Post#1284 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:15 pm

Salaun game

18pts on 5/10 fg, 2/6 3pt, 6/6ft
2 rebs
2 ast
2 stl
4 to


I only watched the first quarter but you saw a bit of everything: deep 3, steal and dunk, out of control screen for offensive foul, lost the ball on a drive, nice drive and kick for an assist.

I do hope the narrative that he doesn’t have feel for the game continues and he is available at Pacers pick. He’s going to be 18 on draft night, doesn’t turn 19 until August. Anyone with patience should be excited to draft him.

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Post#1285 » by Dalek » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:07 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:Salaun game

18pts on 5/10 fg, 2/6 3pt, 6/6ft
2 rebs
2 ast
2 stl
4 to


I only watched the first quarter but you saw a bit of everything: deep 3, steal and dunk, out of control screen for offensive foul, lost the ball on a drive, nice drive and kick for an assist.

I do hope the narrative that he doesn’t have feel for the game continues and he is available at Pacers pick. He’s going to be 18 on draft night, doesn’t turn 19 until August. Anyone with patience should be excited to draft him.

https://www.youtube.com/live/QIjC1-Ns-2k?si=fJ2m44v-tqsmhl0B


I don't know about the idea of raw 18 YO draft pick. If he doesn't pan out right away he becomes like Killian Hayes or Poku, a guy you cut towards then of his rookie deal. He seems like a great second contract guy, not one you necessarily draft because he is a sunk cost and eats a roster spot. If you could draft and stash it would be great, but that is far more common with second rounders. I would consider that at 32 with this kid.
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Post#1286 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:09 pm

Depending on high the FO was on the Jontay, maybe we target a big with one of our first round picks now.

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Post#1287 » by Reeko » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:11 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I’m willing to be shocked my Cody Williams but I’m not seeing a lottery talent

Putting up better numbers than his brother at the same age, in a tougher conference. In this draft I don't see how he's not a lottery talent.


Although I think maybe Cody is better at the same age I still like Jalen’s skill set more coming out of college. I think JDub was/is a lot better in the PnR and just overall self creation ability. Not to mention longer and substantially stronger looking.

All that said I don’t see him falling out the top 10 (really not out of the top 8). Someone will bite in a draft like this with his brother in mind as a hopeful projection of what they’d hope Cody will become a literal “lite” version of him. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice at 6 but at the same time I wouldn’t complain lol there’s just a few prospects I like more that I’d be hopeful to take instead.

Cody is 6'8 to Jalen's 6'6. Cody is alleged to have a 7'2 wingspan to Jalen's 6'11, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Jalen is longer than Cody. Jalen was stronger coming out of college of course, he was also a junior. I think it's pretty universal that Cody is regarded as the better player at the same age, doesn't necessarily mean that he will be better long term. One thing I will say is that it appears that Jalen is a more explosive athlete than Cody and plays with more force.
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Post#1288 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:22 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:
Reeko wrote:Putting up better numbers than his brother at the same age, in a tougher conference. In this draft I don't see how he's not a lottery talent.


Although I think maybe Cody is better at the same age I still like Jalen’s skill set more coming out of college. I think JDub was/is a lot better in the PnR and just overall self creation ability. Not to mention longer and substantially stronger looking.

All that said I don’t see him falling out the top 10 (really not out of the top 8). Someone will bite in a draft like this with his brother in mind as a hopeful projection of what they’d hope Cody will become a literal “lite” version of him. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice at 6 but at the same time I wouldn’t complain lol there’s just a few prospects I like more that I’d be hopeful to take instead.

Cody is 6'8 to Jalen's 6'6. Cody is alleged to have a 7'2 wingspan to Jalen's 6'11, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Jalen is longer than Cody. Jalen was stronger coming out of college of course, he was also a junior. I think it's pretty universal that Cody is regarded as the better player at the same age, doesn't necessarily mean that he will be better long term. One thing I will say is that it appears that Jalen is a more explosive athlete than Cody and plays with more force.


Jalen Williams wingspan at combine was 7’2
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Post#1289 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:25 pm

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ArthurVandelay wrote:Salaun game

18pts on 5/10 fg, 2/6 3pt, 6/6ft
2 rebs
2 ast
2 stl
4 to


I only watched the first quarter but you saw a bit of everything: deep 3, steal and dunk, out of control screen for offensive foul, lost the ball on a drive, nice drive and kick for an assist.

I do hope the narrative that he doesn’t have feel for the game continues and he is available at Pacers pick. He’s going to be 18 on draft night, doesn’t turn 19 until August. Anyone with patience should be excited to draft him.

https://www.youtube.com/live/QIjC1-Ns-2k?si=fJ2m44v-tqsmhl0B


I don't know about the idea of raw 18 YO draft pick. If he doesn't pan out right away he becomes like Killian Hayes or Poku, a guy you cut towards then of his rookie deal. He seems like a great second contract guy, not one you necessarily draft because he is a sunk cost and eats a roster spot. If you could draft and stash it would be great, but that is far more common with second rounders. I would consider that at 32 with this kid.


He’s a definite first round pick and most likely lotto. I still think he goes lotto.
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Post#1290 » by Reeko » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:29 pm

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Although I think maybe Cody is better at the same age I still like Jalen’s skill set more coming out of college. I think JDub was/is a lot better in the PnR and just overall self creation ability. Not to mention longer and substantially stronger looking.

All that said I don’t see him falling out the top 10 (really not out of the top 8). Someone will bite in a draft like this with his brother in mind as a hopeful projection of what they’d hope Cody will become a literal “lite” version of him. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice at 6 but at the same time I wouldn’t complain lol there’s just a few prospects I like more that I’d be hopeful to take instead.

Cody is 6'8 to Jalen's 6'6. Cody is alleged to have a 7'2 wingspan to Jalen's 6'11, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Jalen is longer than Cody. Jalen was stronger coming out of college of course, he was also a junior. I think it's pretty universal that Cody is regarded as the better player at the same age, doesn't necessarily mean that he will be better long term. One thing I will say is that it appears that Jalen is a more explosive athlete than Cody and plays with more force.


Jalen Williams wingspan at combine was 7’2

Right you are. I didn't fully read what had been written. Apparently he had a 6'11 wingspan... when he was 5'10 :lol: .
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Post#1291 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:47 pm

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Reeko wrote:Putting up better numbers than his brother at the same age, in a tougher conference. In this draft I don't see how he's not a lottery talent.


Although I think maybe Cody is better at the same age I still like Jalen’s skill set more coming out of college. I think JDub was/is a lot better in the PnR and just overall self creation ability. Not to mention longer and substantially stronger looking.

All that said I don’t see him falling out the top 10 (really not out of the top 8). Someone will bite in a draft like this with his brother in mind as a hopeful projection of what they’d hope Cody will become a literal “lite” version of him. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice at 6 but at the same time I wouldn’t complain lol there’s just a few prospects I like more that I’d be hopeful to take instead.

Cody is 6'8 to Jalen's 6'6. Cody is alleged to have a 7'2 wingspan to Jalen's 6'11, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Jalen is longer than Cody. Jalen was stronger coming out of college of course, he was also a junior. I think it's pretty universal that Cody is regarded as the better player at the same age, doesn't necessarily mean that he will be better long term. One thing I will say is that it appears that Jalen is a more explosive athlete than Cody and plays with more force.


Ron Holland has similar 3PA rates and FT% while being a more physical and explosive player. He also has better counting stats across the board in the g league at a younger age than Cody is rn. I don't think Cody's 3pt% is real given the very low volume and I have him in the same class of shooter as Ron even if you want to argue he's technically the better shooter.

Much rather take Ron and try to rehab that shot because at least I know I have an athletic wing that is excellent in transition and defend otherwise.
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Post#1292 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:18 am

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Reeko wrote:
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Although I think maybe Cody is better at the same age I still like Jalen’s skill set more coming out of college. I think JDub was/is a lot better in the PnR and just overall self creation ability. Not to mention longer and substantially stronger looking.

All that said I don’t see him falling out the top 10 (really not out of the top 8). Someone will bite in a draft like this with his brother in mind as a hopeful projection of what they’d hope Cody will become a literal “lite” version of him. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice at 6 but at the same time I wouldn’t complain lol there’s just a few prospects I like more that I’d be hopeful to take instead.

Cody is 6'8 to Jalen's 6'6. Cody is alleged to have a 7'2 wingspan to Jalen's 6'11, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Jalen is longer than Cody. Jalen was stronger coming out of college of course, he was also a junior. I think it's pretty universal that Cody is regarded as the better player at the same age, doesn't necessarily mean that he will be better long term. One thing I will say is that it appears that Jalen is a more explosive athlete than Cody and plays with more force.


Ron Holland has similar 3PA rates and FT% while being a more physical and explosive player. He also has better counting stats across the board in the g league at a younger age than Cody is rn. I don't think Cody's 3pt% is real given the very low volume and I have him in the same class of shooter as Ron even if you want to argue he's technically the better shooter.

Much rather take Ron and try to rehab that shot because at least I know I have an athletic wing that is excellent in transition and defend otherwise.


I agree with most of what you said and would say I like that Holland appears to have some real dog in him. He’s aggressive/assertive that he just strikes me as a player that will really push himself to become and be better. Not saying that means he’ll be a star but I’d be fairly confident he’ll be a fairly decent player when it’s all said and done.
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Post#1293 » by RoteSchroder » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:53 am

Draft order is Castle > Holland > Risacher > Cody for me atm

More inclined to go for upside/higher potential with at least 2 out of the 3 picks (assuming we don't convey)
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Post#1294 » by Reeko » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:00 am

RoteSchroder wrote:Draft order is Castle > Holland > Risacher > Cody for me atm

More inclined to go for upside/higher potential with at least 2 out of the 3 picks (assuming we don't convey)

Honestly I don't get the Castle hype.
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Post#1295 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:10 am

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RoteSchroder wrote:Draft order is Castle > Holland > Risacher > Cody for me atm

More inclined to go for upside/higher potential with at least 2 out of the 3 picks (assuming we don't convey)

Honestly I don't get the Castle hype.


Great defender and is 6'6 at SG which is good for guarding 1-3, also a winning player. Good finisher as well albeit not so athletic.

His stock could fall because his high end upside does pop on the tape but I think he could be a Jrue Holiday type. How he comes into the summer workouts will determine a lot because his shot is a big swing skill. Shooting 29% on C&S 3's isn't great but he has a decent form and FT%
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Post#1296 » by RoteSchroder » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:35 am

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RoteSchroder wrote:Draft order is Castle > Holland > Risacher > Cody for me atm

More inclined to go for upside/higher potential with at least 2 out of the 3 picks (assuming we don't convey)

Honestly I don't get the Castle hype.


He's being used as a connector on O and defender at UConn. I see his role in the NBA as an SG.

Out of the 4, he's the best passer/playmaker. 2nd best first step/explosiveness. Top 2 defender. Maybe #1 in b-ball IQ.

Major thing he's lacking is a jump shot, which is a make or break skill.

If you look at his plays, every defender is giving him 2-3 feet of space or going under screens because he's not a good shooter. That's how every single team is playing him. Major polishing on his jumper would open things up a lot and at the moment, I don't see any major red flags at preventing him from improving his shot.

Castle's also good at evaluating during his drives, he can pull up for a mid-range shot, pass, continue to the basket, go for a floater. Holland plays with a little less control during his drives and needs to slow down at times. Risacher is more of a straight line driver. Williams just tends to drive near the basket for a floater, but usually doesn't get all the way to the rim. None of them have reached the same level of court vision as Castle either.
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Post#1298 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:12 am

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Reeko wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:Draft order is Castle > Holland > Risacher > Cody for me atm

More inclined to go for upside/higher potential with at least 2 out of the 3 picks (assuming we don't convey)

Honestly I don't get the Castle hype.


Great defender and is 6'6 at SG which is good for guarding 1-3, also a winning player. Good finisher as well albeit not so athletic.

His stock could fall because his high end upside does pop on the tape but I think he could be a Jrue Holiday type. How he comes into the summer workouts will determine a lot because his shot is a big swing skill. Shooting 29% on C&S 3's isn't great but he has a decent form and FT%


Nice, I wonder if UConn is just too stacked with other guards so Castle isn't able to do more as a freshman? He does have an A/T of 2.

I guess Anthony Edwards shot 40/27/77 at Georgia and is now 46/37/83 in the NBA. Castle does have good handles and drives downhill and thrives with contact but also has a nice eurostep already. The eye test says maybe a taller but less bouncy Dwyane Wade.
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Post#1299 » by XTC » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:16 am

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Ado05 wrote:This draft is complete ****.


There's definitely a few future stars, but the chances of landing one is gonna be awfully difficult because most of the players are gonna top out as role players.

Our bench has been absolute trash for several years now. So I'm hoping we could add some talent to it.

This would be a good draft for me:
#6 - Dillingham
Pacers pick - McCain

FA: Jalen Smith

I'd look forward to watching this team next season:

Quickley/Dillingham
Trent/McCain
Barrett/Ochai
Barnes/Olynyk
Poeltl/Smith


I think this draft is getting a little underrated. It lacks top end talent, but it has lots of players who can develop into high end starters IMO. One of thise drafts you trade down to get multiple picks.
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Post#1300 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:06 am

RoteSchroder wrote:Draft order is Castle > Holland > Risacher > Cody for me atm

More inclined to go for upside/higher potential with at least 2 out of the 3 picks (assuming we don't convey)


Risacher is at the top of the list/draft for me right now which might not say much lol because I’m not saying that to hype him. But he does look like the best prospect that’s most likely to hit (that also fills a need at wing) although I could see Sheppard hitting to some degree too.

Zach is probably the player I’d most feel confident that we found another real core piece if we were able to draft him.
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