2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[bboyskinnylegs]

As someone admittedly out of the loop now, I can't decide if Lowry's free agency is an advantage or a disadvantage for this team

as long as we're not being forced into making a bad deal and are willing to walk away if that's the case, it could be a good thing. While draft prospects might prefer us over other lotto teams, we don't have that advantage when it comes to attracting free agents. And I think Kyle probably gets you better value than renting out capspace to dump salaries - but if he doesn't then adopting the OKC approach is probably better

[StopitLeo]

Question: Do we have enough cap space potentially to absorb Love’s 30m contract (along with #3) for future unprotected picks? Would CLE entertain that due to Allen and Sexton needed new contracts?

We don't have enough space without making a trade. I believe the max space available if we renounce everyone/everything is around $27-28M. If we trade Flynn and take back zero salary it might get us there but I can't say without exact salary numbers.

I was thinking along the same lines though; I'd gladly take Love if it means getting the guy we want at #3 (Mobley?). I'm sure the Cavs are over Love and would like to have his salary off the books. I think Love would be rejuvenated in a new (winning) situation and his 3pt shooting and rebounding would be a welcome addition to the front court.

[WigginsNation]

I would really love for us to get the #3 pick without giving up the #4 pick. Having Mobley and Suggs as building blocks would be incredible

[RapsFanInOhio]

- Draft Suggs with #4
- Trade Siakam for Wiggins, Wiseman, and #7
- Draft Kuminga at 7
- Draft Preston at 46 and Lawson at 47
- S&T Lowry for Simmons
- Re-sign GTJ
- Birch with a partial MLE

FVV / Flynn / Preston
Wiggins / Suggs / Lawson
OG / GTJ / Kuminga
Simmons / Boucher
Wiseman / Birch

[DreamTeam09]

Trade Lowry + 46,47 for Adams + 10

At 10 take sengun or moody or giddey

[sidsid]

Question: Do we have enough cap space potentially to absorb Love’s 30m contract (along with #3) for future unprotected picks? Would CLE entertain that due to Allen and Sexton needed new contracts?

We don't have enough space without making a trade. I believe the max space available if we renounce everyone/everything is around $27-28M. If we trade Flynn and take back zero salary it might get us there but I can't say without exact salary numbers.

I was thinking along the same lines though; I'd gladly take Love if it means getting the guy we want at #3 (Mobley?). I'm sure the Cavs are over Love and would like to have his salary off the books. I think Love would be rejuvenated in a new (winning) situation and his 3pt shooting and rebounding would be a welcome addition to the front court.

Cleveland wants to get better sooner while shedding the Love contract and also move on from their RFA imminent guard.

This is the best FVV trade for value you could hope for (him and one of our non-guarenteed contracts). Cleveland gets vet replacement, guarantee of who they want at 4, pursue straight trade value for Sexton instead of a salary dump.

Keeping Lowry makes a lot more sense since you punt cap space with this trade, while blowing it up/S&T is still an option.

As the draft consensus solidifies around the ceilings of players, this is the type of no-brainer trade you dream of if Cleveland likes it.

[niQ]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10008637-nba-trade-rumors-lakers-kyle-kuzma-kentavious-caldwell-pope-shopped-heavily-by-lal

The Los Angeles Lakers have been aggressive looking to improve before next season with Kyle Kuzma and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope reportedly often used as trade bait.

"They have literally offered Kyle Kuzma and KCP to almost every team I’ve talked to in the league," ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said Sunday on the Woj & Lowe Free Agency Special.

[skywalker33]

Trade Lowry + 46,47 for Adams + 10

At 10 take sengun or moody or giddey

Why would they want Lowry when they have Ja ??

[Mr Swagtastic]

Could there be a scenario where the stars align and all of the reported Raptors rumours come true?

Toronto trades Pascal Siakam to Golden State for James Wiseman, the 7th overall pick and Andrew Wiggins

Toronto then trades The 4th overall pick and the 7th overall pick for the 3rd overall pick

Toronto S&T Kyle Lowry to NOP for Lonzo Ball

Toronto drafts Evan Mobley

Ball/Flynn
VanVleet/Trent jr
Anunoby/Wiggins
Mobley/Boucher
Wiseman/Gillespie

How good is this team?

Trading the 7th pick to move up from 4 to 3 would be stupid. Would rather just take Suggs at 4 and get Bouknight or whoever at 7

100% agree here, if somehow you get the 7th pick plus the 4th overall pick. You take two swings for the fences and you draft either Jalen Suggs or Evan Mobley at #4 then you take the best player available at #7 if that's a guy like Kuminga or Scottie Barnes or Bouknight or someone else you do that.

[douggood]

Trade Lowry + 46,47 for Adams + 10

At 10 take sengun or moody or giddey

Why would they want Lowry when they have Ja ??

that trade proposal was with pelicans, before they did the grizz trade.

[swaggerbox]

Trade#1: Siakam = GS Wiggins + 7th + 14th
Trade#2: 4th + Wiggins = WAS Beal
Trade#3: 7th + 14th = 76ers Simmons
Starters: FVV + Beal + OG + Simmons + Boucher/Baynes

[Duffman100]

Trade#1: Siakam = GS Wiggins + 7th + 14th
Trade#2: 4th + Wiggins = WAS Beal
Trade#3: 7th + 14th = 76ers Simmons
Starters: FVV + Beal + OG + Simmons + Boucher/Baynes

Why Baynes.... why

[Supermann98]

- Draft Suggs with #4
- Trade Siakam for Wiggins, Wiseman, and #7
- Draft Kuminga at 7
- Draft Preston at 46 and Lawson at 47
- S&T Lowry for Simmons
- Re-sign GTJ
- Birch with a partial MLE

FVV / Flynn / Preston
Wiggins / Suggs / Lawson
OG / GTJ / Kuminga
Simmons / Boucher
Wiseman / Birch

I like the cut of your jib, that's a huge turnover but damn if that's not a scary defensive team.

Although isn't the ask for Simmons ridiculous? Let Philly keep him if they really want half our team for him, but if Lowry is on board for a S&T to his hometown and with this lineup I'd throw in a top-10 protected 2022 first rounder if it got the trade done. Simmons at the PF position is very interesting, especially if he discovers his FT%

[TheRealDeal]

Shai being available is very very tantalizing

[Morris_Shatford]

As someone admittedly out of the loop now, I can't decide if Lowry's free agency is an advantage or a disadvantage for this team

It depends on the outcome;

1) You waive his cap hold and you have around 17-18m (Assuming you are retaining Boucher and Bembry's options and GTJs caphold) in cap space which you can use any which way you want
2) You S&T Lowry for salary ballast and some minor assets and end up with the MLE to use as you wish
3) You keep Lowry and then you get the full MLE

Your highest risk situation is the S&T because if there is truth to Lowry looking to secure the mid 20s to 30m we need to find a way to match that with incoming salary ballast from the team that would like to S&T Lowry and that ballast is potentially the wildcard in this entire situation. If you end up with some end of the bench overpaid fodder in exchange for a late 1st or a middling prospect its less than ideal.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Shai being available is very very tantalizing

only for the #1 pick. we don't have that pick.

[gerrit4]

As someone admittedly out of the loop now, I can't decide if Lowry's free agency is an advantage or a disadvantage for this team

It depends on the outcome;

1) You waive his cap hold and you have around 17-18m (Assuming you are retaining Boucher and Bembry's options and GTJs caphold) in cap space which you can use any which way you want
2) You S&T Lowry for salary ballast and some minor assets and end up with the MLE to use as you wish
3) You keep Lowry and then you get the full MLE

Your highest risk situation is the S&T because if there is truth to Lowry looking to secure the mid 20s to 30m we need to find a way to match that with incoming salary ballast from the team that would like to S&T Lowry and that ballast is potentially the wildcard in this entire situation. If you end up with some end of the bench overpaid fodder in exchange for a late 1st or a middling prospect its less than ideal.

Agreed. I can only see us doing an S&T for Lowry if it can be used to address our centre situation (assuming we don't draft Mobley). So either the return would need to be a legit starting 5, or the type of assets that could be flipped for a starting 5 like Turner, Allen, etc.

Otherwise, the cap space is probably more valuable to us.

[StopitLeo]

Shai being available is very very tantalizing

only for the #1 pick. we don't have that pick.

My guess is that #6 was too low for Detroit since most see a drop off after the top 4.

Can I dream about a blockbuster with #1 to OKC, #4 + #6 + Dort to Detroit, and SGA to Toronto? The Thunder would probably have to add an additional first round pick to Detroit (if I’m greedy maybe we get #16).

[TheRealDeal]

Shai being available is very very tantalizing

only for the #1 pick. we don't have that pick.

True, it might not happen this summer, but the fact this information got leaked leads me to believe they don’t see him as some sort of untouchable franchise cornerstone

We’ll need to swoop in when the time is right

[ItsDanger]

#4 is going to be on the table for a framework for SGA