[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

[TheRaptor!]

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's a just solid (not great) traditional C making max money.

These type of players aren't in huge demand.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and he makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years.

Any positive impact OG makes on defense gets neutralized by his horrendous offense. Also, factor in Ayton is 3 yrs younger than OG.

OG and Ayton are dead on in value imo. Both teams can point out flaws in the other player if they please. Young centers are also not easy to come by nowadays.

OG isn't horrendous offensively. He has average NBA efficiency and he's a career 37% 3pt shooter.

Once Ayton signed his max deal, a deal he's not close to being worth, he lost most of his value.

His offence doesnt pass my eye test.

Open 3s or bust as the 4-5th option. What offence?

[Raptors Realtor]

I dont understand how you can say that with so much certainty. Either you're severely overrating OG or just underrating ayton.

ALso, Phoenix would have the same problem with not having a center because their back up center is Biyombo. Hence why I said, Masai probably wants a Ayton/OG swap. Phoenix needs to think of other alternatives so they can get a center back

Ayton is viewed around the league as a neutral asset at best because he's a just solid (not great) traditional C making max money.

These type of players aren't in huge demand.

I certainly wouldn't trade OG for him straight up. OG is a better defender and he can hits 3s unlike Ayton and he makes only 17 and 18 mill over the next couple years.

Any positive impact OG makes on defense gets neutralized by his horrendous offense. Also, factor in Ayton is 3 yrs younger than OG.

OG and Ayton are dead on in value imo. Both teams can point out flaws in the other player if they please. Young centers are also not easy to come by nowadays.

Ayton 1 year younger, almost to the day.

[Los_29]

Have no clue why we keep getting linked to them.

They have no back up big and Mikal is a better version of OG.

Masai isn’t going to trade for a non top 5 center who makes a max.

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

Durability is irrelevant. You said Mikal is a better version of OG. He's not. When they are both at their best, OG is better. Even OG's offensive efficiency would be better than Mikal's if he had Mikal's level of offensive responsibility.

Mikal Bridges wouldn't be getting this kind of attention and he's not worth as much as OG is reportedly worth.

[HumbleRen]

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

Durability is irrelevant. You said Mikal is a better version of OG. He's not. When they are both at their best, OG is better. Even OG's offensive efficiency would be better than Mikal's if he had Mikal's level of offensive responsibility.

Mikal Bridges wouldn't be getting this kind of attention and he's not worth as much as OG is reportedly worth.

I completely disagree then.

I think Mikal is having the better season, the more durable player with a better contract for the next 4 years.

Is OG a better defender ? Yes. Is the gap on defence wider than the gap on offence ? No.

[Reeko]

LOL all of a sudden OG's not the hottest thing on the trade market.

[Johnny Bball]

LOL all of a sudden OG's not the hottest thing on the trade market.

Fans or GMs?

[Tor_Raps]

LOL all of a sudden OG's not the hottest thing on the trade market.

Fans or GMs?

Everyone's waiting for news on KD and can care less about OG at the moment. I bet you if Masai calls back any team for OG right now, they'll tell him to wait until the KD situation becomes clearer.

[Ackshun]

Any positive impact OG makes on defense gets neutralized by his horrendous offense. Also, factor in Ayton is 3 yrs younger than OG.

OG and Ayton are dead on in value imo. Both teams can point out flaws in the other player if they please. Young centers are also not easy to come by nowadays.

OG isn't horrendous offensively. He has average NBA efficiency and he's a career 37% 3pt shooter.

Once Ayton signed his max deal, a deal he's not close to being worth, he lost most of his value.

His offence doesnt pass my eye test.

Open 3s or bust as the 4-5th option. What offence?

I do wonder how much his role plays into his “average efficiency”. He isn’t asked to do much here. If a team eventually decides to give him some usage, I’m curious how that works out.

[Reeko]

LOL all of a sudden OG's not the hottest thing on the trade market.

Fans or GMs?

Everyone's waiting for news on KD and can care less about OG at the moment. I bet you if Masai calls back any team for OG right now, they'll tell him to wait until the KD situation becomes clearer.

Fans, GMs, media analysts, whoever you can think of. Is OG still relevant? Absolutely, but he took a major bump to the back burner.

[dTox]

Have no clue why we keep getting linked to them.

They have no back up big and Mikal is a better version of OG.

Masai isn’t going to trade for a non top 5 center who makes a max.

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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[Reeko]

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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Without looking at their numbers, are we sure that's true? I'm talking about offensively, maybe Bridges just had a really good game against us but he looked super legit on offense that night.

[HumbleRen]

OG has been considered the better player this year. Bridges is an excellent defensive player but with OG, he can literally guard every position on the floor. That kind of versatility is huge. NBA teams see OG as the more valuable player hence why teams are willing to give up a lot of draft capital for him.

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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[WetLikeWater]

We have a top 10 pg in Fred
We have a top 15 player in siakam
We have a top 10 young player in Barnes.

We have good young assets in Trent, og and precious.

On paper this is an excellent foundation to build upon. One does not simply blow this up.

Sadist or not, the screaming fan boys have it coming

I spat my tea out after reading what this man said how VV is top 10 pg in the NBA.. also top 15 for Bland P!!! thanks for the good laugh I needed this!!

348 posts in 15 years? Hmmm, this smells like someone created 30 accounts back in 2008 just to log in to various team forums to bash players they want their team to trade for. Do your 20 posts per year consistently appear just before the trade deadline?

I'm sorry that I got a life and not just here arguing with people every day about stupid things (like what you just posted right now)

[ItsDanger]

I'm going to take a lot of pleasure in watching many of you have a meltdown after Thursday when nothing happens.

It's nothing personal, I'm just your average sadist.

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We have a top 10 pg in Fred
We have a top 15 player in siakam
We have a top 10 young player in Barnes.

We have good young assets in Trent, og and precious.

On paper this is an excellent foundation to build upon. One does not simply blow this up.

Sadist or not, the screaming fan boys have it coming

I hope Bobby doesn't start off his trade proposals using these lines.

[Slim Charless]

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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Without looking at their numbers, are we sure that's true? I'm talking about offensively, maybe Bridges just had a really good game against us but he looked super legit on offense that night.

Even if that was true, which I don't really think it is, Mikal hasn't missed a game since high school. He's literally played every game in college and his pro career.

That kind of availability and durability is massive nowadays. I think the Suns might be wanting to male a paring of the 2 and give opposing teams fits on defense. Mikal, in my opinion is better than OG guarding point guards and smaller wings while OG is better on the 4s and bigger wings. That combo has potential together.

I still feel an Ayton swap makes sense but it could be for a larger package with Cam Johnson and picks.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

LOL all of a sudden OG's not the hottest thing on the trade market.

Fans or GMs?

Everyone's waiting for news on KD and can care less about OG at the moment. I bet you if Masai calls back any team for OG right now, they'll tell him to wait until the KD situation becomes clearer.

We’ll be kicking the tires on Durant also.

[Johnny Bball]

LOL all of a sudden OG's not the hottest thing on the trade market.

Fans or GMs?

Everyone's waiting for news on KD and can care less about OG at the moment. I bet you if Masai calls back any team for OG right now, they'll tell him to wait until the KD situation becomes clearer.

If they didn't trade KD in the offseason, I have to wonder how or why they would in season. That just seems like its a bridge too far for this year for some reason to me.

[TheRaptor!]

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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....give me a great offence over a great defence any day and twice on sundays.

[HumbleRen]

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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....give me a great offence over a great defence any day and twice on sundays.

Great offence + good defence CLEARS great defence + decent offence.

[Tha Cynic]

Mikal would get the same attention if he was available.

He’s on a deal until 2026 and won’t get paid more than 25M at any period of time.

OG has missed more games in the last 2 weeks than Mikal has in his entire career.

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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OG is an elite 3 and D player. Why are we posting about his pull ups and isolations? Lol

The guy who's posting this is clearly not understanding why teams want him and you're better than this having watched him here for years.

He has a long enough sample size to show that he can hit the 3 at a very good clip and has shot over 40% before. That's playing on a clunky offensive system team. As a role player OG is a better player overall for a team that already has established offensive players. If they needed scoring from him in those type of scenarios they're looking at the wrong player.