Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II

[ArthurVandelay]

This was my original watch list for the 2023 NBA Draft back in August:

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UgonnaKingsleyOnyenso 6’117’5 Kentucky
Dereck Lively III(Duke) 7’1 - 7’8
Kel’el Ware (Oregon) 7’ -
Aden Bona (UCLA) 6’10 - 7’4
Terris Reed (Michigan) 6’10- 7’5
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’4
Efe Abogidi (ignite) 6’9 - 7’4

PF
Mouhamed Gueye (Wash St) 6’11 - 7’4
Daimion Collins (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’5
Adam’s Songona (uconn) 6’9 - 7’4
Mark mitchell (Duke) 6’8 - 7’2
Ousmane Ndiaye (Germany) 6’11 - 7’3
Daron Holmes II (Dayton) 6’10
Yohan Traore (Auburn) 6’10 - 7’3

Wings
Dariq Whitehead (Duke) 6’6 - 6’10
Cam Whitemore (Villanova) 6’8 - 6’8
Leonard miller (ignite) 6’10 - 7’2
Dillon Mitchell (Texas) 6’7 -
Jordan Walsh (Arkansas) 6’7 - 7’3
Rayan Rupert (NZ) 6’7 - 7’3
Jarace Walker (Houston) 6’8 - 7’2
GG Jackson (South Carolina) 6’8 - 6’11
Baba Miller (Florida St) 6’10 - 7’2
Sidy Cissoko (Ignite) 6’7 - 6’9
Chris Livingstone (Kentucky) 6’7 - 6’11
Brandon Miller (Alabama) 6’8 -
Julian Phillips (Tennessee) 6’8 - 6’11.5
Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) 6’7 - 7’1
Nathan Missia-Dio (OTE) 6’8 - 7’5”
Jett Howard (Michigan) 6’7 -
Terrence Arceneaux (Houston) 6’7 - 7’?
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) 6’9 - 7’1
Caleb Banks (Indiana) 6’8 - 7’1

Guards
Amen Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Ausar Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Nick Smith (Arkansas) 6’5 - 6’9
Anthony Black (Arkansas) 6’7 -
Cason Wallace (Kentucky) 6’4 - 6’6’
Keyonte George (Baylor) 6’4 -
Grady Dick (Kansas) 6’7 -
Amari Bailey (UCLA) 6’4 -
Tyrese Procter (Duke) 6’4 -
Jalen Hood-Schifino (Indiana) 6’5 -

After some guys underperformed, seeing them play at higher levels of competition, getting a look at analytical stats in addition to watching them play, and finding new players who “came from nowhere,” my big board looks like this:

Brandon Miller
Gradey Dick
Cason Wallace
Anthony Black
Bilal Coulibaly
Rayan Rupert
Taylor Hendricks
Sidy Cissoko
Brandin Podziemski
Jaylen Clark
Kobe Bufkin

Edit: Victor and Scoot aren’t listed because I don’t see any chance they end up on Raptors.

[Yallbecrazy]

This was my original watch list for the 2023 NBA Draft back in August:

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UgonnaKingsleyOnyenso 6’117’5 Kentucky
Dereck Lively III(Duke) 7’1 - 7’8
Kel’el Ware (Oregon) 7’ -
Aden Bona (UCLA) 6’10 - 7’4
Terris Reed (Michigan) 6’10- 7’5
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’4
Efe Abogidi (ignite) 6’9 - 7’4

PF
Mouhamed Gueye (Wash St) 6’11 - 7’4
Daimion Collins (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’5
Adam’s Songona (uconn) 6’9 - 7’4
Mark mitchell (Duke) 6’8 - 7’2
Ousmane Ndiaye (Germany) 6’11 - 7’3
Daron Holmes II (Dayton) 6’10
Yohan Traore (Auburn) 6’10 - 7’3

Wings
Dariq Whitehead (Duke) 6’6 - 6’10
Cam Whitemore (Villanova) 6’8 - 6’8
Leonard miller (ignite) 6’10 - 7’2
Dillon Mitchell (Texas) 6’7 -
Jordan Walsh (Arkansas) 6’7 - 7’3
Rayan Rupert (NZ) 6’7 - 7’3
Jarace Walker (Houston) 6’8 - 7’2
GG Jackson (South Carolina) 6’8 - 6’11
Baba Miller (Florida St) 6’10 - 7’2
Sidy Cissoko (Ignite) 6’7 - 6’9
Chris Livingstone (Kentucky) 6’7 - 6’11
Brandon Miller (Alabama) 6’8 -
Julian Phillips (Tennessee) 6’8 - 6’11.5
Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) 6’7 - 7’1
Nathan Missia-Dio (OTE) 6’8 - 7’5”
Jett Howard (Michigan) 6’7 -
Terrence Arceneaux (Houston) 6’7 - 7’?
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) 6’9 - 7’1
Caleb Banks (Indiana) 6’8 - 7’1

Guards
Amen Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Ausar Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Nick Smith (Arkansas) 6’5 - 6’9
Anthony Black (Arkansas) 6’7 -
Cason Wallace (Kentucky) 6’4 - 6’6’
Keyonte George (Baylor) 6’4 -
Grady Dick (Kansas) 6’7 -
Amari Bailey (UCLA) 6’4 -
Tyrese Procter (Duke) 6’4 -
Jalen Hood-Schifino (Indiana) 6’5 -

After some guys underperformed, seeing them play at higher levels of competition, getting a look at analytical stats in addition to watching them play, and finding new players who “came from nowhere,” my big board looks like this:

Brandon Miller
Gradey Dick
Cason Wallace
Anthony Black
Bilal Coulibaly
Rayan Rupert
Taylor Hendricks
Sidy Cissoko
Brandin Podziemski
Jaylen Clark
Kobe Bufkin

Edit: Victor and Scoot aren’t listed because I don’t see any chance they end up on Raptors.

I agree for the most part, don't know a lot about Rupert. Looked at Coulibaly's stats and I'm pretty low on him based on that. He's barely playing in the no defense french league, unless I'm missing something.

[Psubs]

This was my original watch list for the 2023 NBA Draft back in August:

C
UgonnaKingsleyOnyenso 6’117’5 Kentucky
Dereck Lively III(Duke) 7’1 - 7’8
Kel’el Ware (Oregon) 7’ -
Aden Bona (UCLA) 6’10 - 7’4
Terris Reed (Michigan) 6’10- 7’5
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’4
Efe Abogidi (ignite) 6’9 - 7’4

PF
Mouhamed Gueye (Wash St) 6’11 - 7’4
Daimion Collins (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’5
Adam’s Songona (uconn) 6’9 - 7’4
Mark mitchell (Duke) 6’8 - 7’2
Ousmane Ndiaye (Germany) 6’11 - 7’3
Daron Holmes II (Dayton) 6’10
Yohan Traore (Auburn) 6’10 - 7’3

Wings
Dariq Whitehead (Duke) 6’6 - 6’10
Cam Whitemore (Villanova) 6’8 - 6’8
Leonard miller (ignite) 6’10 - 7’2
Dillon Mitchell (Texas) 6’7 -
Jordan Walsh (Arkansas) 6’7 - 7’3
Rayan Rupert (NZ) 6’7 - 7’3
Jarace Walker (Houston) 6’8 - 7’2
GG Jackson (South Carolina) 6’8 - 6’11
Baba Miller (Florida St) 6’10 - 7’2
Sidy Cissoko (Ignite) 6’7 - 6’9
Chris Livingstone (Kentucky) 6’7 - 6’11
Brandon Miller (Alabama) 6’8 -
Julian Phillips (Tennessee) 6’8 - 6’11.5
Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) 6’7 - 7’1
Nathan Missia-Dio (OTE) 6’8 - 7’5”
Jett Howard (Michigan) 6’7 -
Terrence Arceneaux (Houston) 6’7 - 7’?
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) 6’9 - 7’1
Caleb Banks (Indiana) 6’8 - 7’1

Guards
Amen Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Ausar Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Nick Smith (Arkansas) 6’5 - 6’9
Anthony Black (Arkansas) 6’7 -
Cason Wallace (Kentucky) 6’4 - 6’6’
Keyonte George (Baylor) 6’4 -
Grady Dick (Kansas) 6’7 -
Amari Bailey (UCLA) 6’4 -
Tyrese Procter (Duke) 6’4 -
Jalen Hood-Schifino (Indiana) 6’5 -

After some guys underperformed, seeing them play at higher levels of competition, getting a look at analytical stats in addition to watching them play, and finding new players who “came from nowhere,” my big board looks like this:

Brandon Miller
Gradey Dick
Cason Wallace
Anthony Black
Bilal Coulibaly
Rayan Rupert
Taylor Hendricks
Sidy Cissoko
Brandin Podziemski
Jaylen Clark
Kobe Bufkin

Edit: Victor and Scoot aren’t listed because I don’t see any chance they end up on Raptors.

I agree for the most part, don't know a lot about Rupert. Looked at Coulibaly's stats and I'm pretty low on him based on that. He's barely playing in the no defense french league, unless I'm missing something.

I get rich man's Bruno vibes from Coulibaly.

[ArthurVandelay]

This was my original watch list for the 2023 NBA Draft back in August:

C
UgonnaKingsleyOnyenso 6’117’5 Kentucky
Dereck Lively III(Duke) 7’1 - 7’8
Kel’el Ware (Oregon) 7’ -
Aden Bona (UCLA) 6’10 - 7’4
Terris Reed (Michigan) 6’10- 7’5
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’4
Efe Abogidi (ignite) 6’9 - 7’4

PF
Mouhamed Gueye (Wash St) 6’11 - 7’4
Daimion Collins (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’5
Adam’s Songona (uconn) 6’9 - 7’4
Mark mitchell (Duke) 6’8 - 7’2
Ousmane Ndiaye (Germany) 6’11 - 7’3
Daron Holmes II (Dayton) 6’10
Yohan Traore (Auburn) 6’10 - 7’3

Wings
Dariq Whitehead (Duke) 6’6 - 6’10
Cam Whitemore (Villanova) 6’8 - 6’8
Leonard miller (ignite) 6’10 - 7’2
Dillon Mitchell (Texas) 6’7 -
Jordan Walsh (Arkansas) 6’7 - 7’3
Rayan Rupert (NZ) 6’7 - 7’3
Jarace Walker (Houston) 6’8 - 7’2
GG Jackson (South Carolina) 6’8 - 6’11
Baba Miller (Florida St) 6’10 - 7’2
Sidy Cissoko (Ignite) 6’7 - 6’9
Chris Livingstone (Kentucky) 6’7 - 6’11
Brandon Miller (Alabama) 6’8 -
Julian Phillips (Tennessee) 6’8 - 6’11.5
Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) 6’7 - 7’1
Nathan Missia-Dio (OTE) 6’8 - 7’5”
Jett Howard (Michigan) 6’7 -
Terrence Arceneaux (Houston) 6’7 - 7’?
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) 6’9 - 7’1
Caleb Banks (Indiana) 6’8 - 7’1

Guards
Amen Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Ausar Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Nick Smith (Arkansas) 6’5 - 6’9
Anthony Black (Arkansas) 6’7 -
Cason Wallace (Kentucky) 6’4 - 6’6’
Keyonte George (Baylor) 6’4 -
Grady Dick (Kansas) 6’7 -
Amari Bailey (UCLA) 6’4 -
Tyrese Procter (Duke) 6’4 -
Jalen Hood-Schifino (Indiana) 6’5 -

After some guys underperformed, seeing them play at higher levels of competition, getting a look at analytical stats in addition to watching them play, and finding new players who “came from nowhere,” my big board looks like this:

Brandon Miller
Gradey Dick
Cason Wallace
Anthony Black
Bilal Coulibaly
Rayan Rupert
Taylor Hendricks
Sidy Cissoko
Brandin Podziemski
Jaylen Clark
Kobe Bufkin

Edit: Victor and Scoot aren’t listed because I don’t see any chance they end up on Raptors.

I agree for the most part, don't know a lot about Rupert. Looked at Coulibaly's stats and I'm pretty low on him based on that. He's barely playing in the no defense french league, unless I'm missing something.

He’s 18, long (reported 7’3 wingspan), super-athletic, and just starting to put it all together. He’s a diamond in the rough but with a good development plan, he has the potential to shine very, very bright.

He dominated the U21 league and was called up to the the senior team.

[Yallbecrazy]

This was my original watch list for the 2023 NBA Draft back in August:

C
UgonnaKingsleyOnyenso 6’117’5 Kentucky
Dereck Lively III(Duke) 7’1 - 7’8
Kel’el Ware (Oregon) 7’ -
Aden Bona (UCLA) 6’10 - 7’4
Terris Reed (Michigan) 6’10- 7’5
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’4
Efe Abogidi (ignite) 6’9 - 7’4

PF
Mouhamed Gueye (Wash St) 6’11 - 7’4
Daimion Collins (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’5
Adam’s Songona (uconn) 6’9 - 7’4
Mark mitchell (Duke) 6’8 - 7’2
Ousmane Ndiaye (Germany) 6’11 - 7’3
Daron Holmes II (Dayton) 6’10
Yohan Traore (Auburn) 6’10 - 7’3

Wings
Dariq Whitehead (Duke) 6’6 - 6’10
Cam Whitemore (Villanova) 6’8 - 6’8
Leonard miller (ignite) 6’10 - 7’2
Dillon Mitchell (Texas) 6’7 -
Jordan Walsh (Arkansas) 6’7 - 7’3
Rayan Rupert (NZ) 6’7 - 7’3
Jarace Walker (Houston) 6’8 - 7’2
GG Jackson (South Carolina) 6’8 - 6’11
Baba Miller (Florida St) 6’10 - 7’2
Sidy Cissoko (Ignite) 6’7 - 6’9
Chris Livingstone (Kentucky) 6’7 - 6’11
Brandon Miller (Alabama) 6’8 -
Julian Phillips (Tennessee) 6’8 - 6’11.5
Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) 6’7 - 7’1
Nathan Missia-Dio (OTE) 6’8 - 7’5”
Jett Howard (Michigan) 6’7 -
Terrence Arceneaux (Houston) 6’7 - 7’?
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) 6’9 - 7’1
Caleb Banks (Indiana) 6’8 - 7’1

Guards
Amen Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Ausar Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Nick Smith (Arkansas) 6’5 - 6’9
Anthony Black (Arkansas) 6’7 -
Cason Wallace (Kentucky) 6’4 - 6’6’
Keyonte George (Baylor) 6’4 -
Grady Dick (Kansas) 6’7 -
Amari Bailey (UCLA) 6’4 -
Tyrese Procter (Duke) 6’4 -
Jalen Hood-Schifino (Indiana) 6’5 -

After some guys underperformed, seeing them play at higher levels of competition, getting a look at analytical stats in addition to watching them play, and finding new players who “came from nowhere,” my big board looks like this:

Brandon Miller
Gradey Dick
Cason Wallace
Anthony Black
Bilal Coulibaly
Rayan Rupert
Taylor Hendricks
Sidy Cissoko
Brandin Podziemski
Jaylen Clark
Kobe Bufkin

Edit: Victor and Scoot aren’t listed because I don’t see any chance they end up on Raptors.

I agree for the most part, don't know a lot about Rupert. Looked at Coulibaly's stats and I'm pretty low on him based on that. He's barely playing in the no defense french league, unless I'm missing something.

I get rich man's Bruno vibes from Coulibaly.

So Durant?

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Kris Murray chucked and sucked. Pass. NEXT! lol

[ArthurVandelay]

This was my original watch list for the 2023 NBA Draft back in August:

C
UgonnaKingsleyOnyenso 6’117’5 Kentucky
Dereck Lively III(Duke) 7’1 - 7’8
Kel’el Ware (Oregon) 7’ -
Aden Bona (UCLA) 6’10 - 7’4
Terris Reed (Michigan) 6’10- 7’5
Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’4
Efe Abogidi (ignite) 6’9 - 7’4

PF
Mouhamed Gueye (Wash St) 6’11 - 7’4
Daimion Collins (Kentucky) 6’9 - 7’5
Adam’s Songona (uconn) 6’9 - 7’4
Mark mitchell (Duke) 6’8 - 7’2
Ousmane Ndiaye (Germany) 6’11 - 7’3
Daron Holmes II (Dayton) 6’10
Yohan Traore (Auburn) 6’10 - 7’3

Wings
Dariq Whitehead (Duke) 6’6 - 6’10
Cam Whitemore (Villanova) 6’8 - 6’8
Leonard miller (ignite) 6’10 - 7’2
Dillon Mitchell (Texas) 6’7 -
Jordan Walsh (Arkansas) 6’7 - 7’3
Rayan Rupert (NZ) 6’7 - 7’3
Jarace Walker (Houston) 6’8 - 7’2
GG Jackson (South Carolina) 6’8 - 6’11
Baba Miller (Florida St) 6’10 - 7’2
Sidy Cissoko (Ignite) 6’7 - 6’9
Chris Livingstone (Kentucky) 6’7 - 6’11
Brandon Miller (Alabama) 6’8 -
Julian Phillips (Tennessee) 6’8 - 6’11.5
Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) 6’7 - 7’1
Nathan Missia-Dio (OTE) 6’8 - 7’5”
Jett Howard (Michigan) 6’7 -
Terrence Arceneaux (Houston) 6’7 - 7’?
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) 6’9 - 7’1
Caleb Banks (Indiana) 6’8 - 7’1

Guards
Amen Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Ausar Thompson (OTE) 6’7 - 6’11
Nick Smith (Arkansas) 6’5 - 6’9
Anthony Black (Arkansas) 6’7 -
Cason Wallace (Kentucky) 6’4 - 6’6’
Keyonte George (Baylor) 6’4 -
Grady Dick (Kansas) 6’7 -
Amari Bailey (UCLA) 6’4 -
Tyrese Procter (Duke) 6’4 -
Jalen Hood-Schifino (Indiana) 6’5 -

After some guys underperformed, seeing them play at higher levels of competition, getting a look at analytical stats in addition to watching them play, and finding new players who “came from nowhere,” my big board looks like this:

Brandon Miller
Gradey Dick
Cason Wallace
Anthony Black
Bilal Coulibaly
Rayan Rupert
Taylor Hendricks
Sidy Cissoko
Brandin Podziemski
Jaylen Clark
Kobe Bufkin

Edit: Victor and Scoot aren’t listed because I don’t see any chance they end up on Raptors.

I agree for the most part, don't know a lot about Rupert. Looked at Coulibaly's stats and I'm pretty low on him based on that. He's barely playing in the no defense french league, unless I'm missing something.

I get rich man's Bruno vibes from Coulibaly.

Every draft pick is a risk. But Coulibaly’s growth from 2021-2022 as a 17 year old in U21 league to this season was impressive. Now he is showing impressive flashes against grown men as an 18 year old…there is potential there.

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/244764/bilal-coulibaly

14 teams passed over Giannis because he was extremely raw and years away from having any idea what he would be.

Big swings usually lead to strikeouts or home runs.

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I agree for the most part, don't know a lot about Rupert. Looked at Coulibaly's stats and I'm pretty low on him based on that. He's barely playing in the no defense french league, unless I'm missing something.

I get rich man's Bruno vibes from Coulibaly.

Every draft pick is a risk. But Coulibaly’s growth from 2021-2022 as a 17 year old in U21 league to this season was impressive. Now he is showing impressive flashes against grown men as an 18 year old…there is potential there.

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/244764/bilal-coulibaly

14 teams passed over Giannis because he was extremely raw and years away from having any idea what he would be.

Big swings usually lead to strikeouts or home runs.

Wouldn't Cissoko be a better prospect? Passes like a combo guard, shoots the NBA 3 around 33% already as an 18 year old. Already has an NBA ready body.

[ArthurVandelay]

I get rich man's Bruno vibes from Coulibaly.

Every draft pick is a risk. But Coulibaly’s growth from 2021-2022 as a 17 year old in U21 league to this season was impressive. Now he is showing impressive flashes against grown men as an 18 year old…there is potential there.

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/244764/bilal-coulibaly

14 teams passed over Giannis because he was extremely raw and years away from having any idea what he would be.

Big swings usually lead to strikeouts or home runs.

Wouldn't Cissoko be a better prospect? Passes like a combo guard, shoots the NBA 3 around 33% already as an 18 year old. Already has an NBA ready body.

Everyone grows and develops at their own pace. No doubt 18 year old Cissoko is rocking a grown man build.

The whole goal of scouting is projecting what players will be. Coulibaly’s build and athleticism combined with his agility/fluidity are very intriguing to me. He looks like he could be special.

I watch for some really weird things, like how a guy moves or how their shot goes through the net.

I’m high on Cissoko too fwiw.

[Thaddy]

Every draft pick is a risk. But Coulibaly’s growth from 2021-2022 as a 17 year old in U21 league to this season was impressive. Now he is showing impressive flashes against grown men as an 18 year old…there is potential there.

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/244764/bilal-coulibaly

14 teams passed over Giannis because he was extremely raw and years away from having any idea what he would be.

Big swings usually lead to strikeouts or home runs.

Wouldn't Cissoko be a better prospect? Passes like a combo guard, shoots the NBA 3 around 33% already as an 18 year old. Already has an NBA ready body.

Everyone grows and develops at their own pace. No doubt 18 year old Cissoko is rocking a grown man build.

The whole goal of scouting is projecting what players will be. Coulibaly’s build and athleticism combined with his agility/fluidity are very intriguing to me. He looks like he could be special.

I watch for some really weird things, like how a guy moves or how their shot goes through the net.

I’m high on Cissoko too fwiw.

I can't see why you have Coulibaly over Rupert.

The guys we've seen come out of the NBL have a high degree of success from Giddy, LaMelo, Daniels, etc. There's been some bad players like Ferguson I guess but he was a non factor in that league too.

Rupert's team the Breakers made the finals this year. He was also a rotation player and played pretty well despite a poor offensive package. He would be an instant role player for us because of his defense and he would just need to get a 3Pt shot to be our back up SF.

He transitioned from being a point guard to a wing player so there's creation potential there as well. I'd be interested in seeing how they match up once combine stats come out. Coulibaly might be a benefactor of playing with a generational talent as well.

As of now I'd lean towards the more proven Rupert. He just has less liability that comes with him and we've seen past success with similar prospects from the NBL.

[WuTang_CMB]

Sasser aint right feel for him

[Thaddy]

Hendricks is another guy we will have a lot of interest in. He's shooting 40% from the college three gives us another 6'9 guy but he can shoot and protect the rim.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Houston is screwed without Sasser, they are elite with him and garbage without him. He takes their D to another level and generates the offense they desperately need.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Hendricks is another guy we will have a lot of interest in. He's shooting 40% from the college three gives us another 6'9 guy but he can shoot and protect the rim.

Hendricks has been talked about at length.

[PhilBlackson]

Every draft pick is a risk. But Coulibaly’s growth from 2021-2022 as a 17 year old in U21 league to this season was impressive. Now he is showing impressive flashes against grown men as an 18 year old…there is potential there.

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/244764/bilal-coulibaly

14 teams passed over Giannis because he was extremely raw and years away from having any idea what he would be.

Big swings usually lead to strikeouts or home runs.

Wouldn't Cissoko be a better prospect? Passes like a combo guard, shoots the NBA 3 around 33% already as an 18 year old. Already has an NBA ready body.

Everyone grows and develops at their own pace. No doubt 18 year old Cissoko is rocking a grown man build.

The whole goal of scouting is projecting what players will be. Coulibaly’s build and athleticism combined with his agility/fluidity are very intriguing to me. He looks like he could be special.

I watch for some really weird things, like how a guy moves or how their shot goes through the net.

I’m high on Cissoko too fwiw.

I think Sidy might be my guy for our pick.

He was top of my list coming into the year (because I assumed we were going to be the average team we are), but he started out slow but he has seriously come on in this last couple of months. He's been ballin out, dropping 20+ppg, his shooting numbers have gone up & doing so showing a ton of variety in his skill package. I would think if any other kid in college with his versatility was doing that, they'd be skyrocketing up draft boards, something like how Hendricks is (who I don't think he'll be there when we draft). Sidy is looking like one of the best kept secrets in the draft to me & at this point I'm almost hoping he slows down so the buzz around him didn't boom last minute like it did Daniels.

Nice seeing him work "free man" Champagnie lol

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I'm not sure what I'm missing but I see potential there to be different from a lot of guys in our range that strike me as high level roleplayers. He may be as well too but there's something there to work with imo. Of course ideally, I wish we could find someone who's a more natural scorer/shooter that posses a similar kind of upside overall but I don't see another one in our range with at least the framework to be a higher upside prospect than Cissiko. Maybe Bilal is, I've tried to dig to see more game footage of him to have a better feel for his game, would admit I likely haven't seen enough but overall he does seem VERY raw. But obviously you can see he's a different kind of athlete...but Sidy is no slouch, he's a grown man that's only going to get more "grown" but has a better bball IQ from what I can see, seems safer while still possessing upside. Just my 2c.

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I think Sidy might be my guy for our pick.

He was top of my list coming into the year (because I assumed we were going to be the average team we are), but he started out slow but he has seriously come on in this last couple of months. He's been ballin out, dropping 20+ppg, his shooting numbers have gone up & doing so showing a ton of variety in his skill package. I would think if any other kid in college with his versatility was doing that, they'd be skyrocketing up draft boards, something like how Hendricks is (who I don't think he'll be there when we draft). Sidy is looking like one of the best kept secrets in the draft to me & at this point I'm almost hoping he slows down so the buzz around him didn't boom last minute like it did Daniels.

Nice seeing him work "free man" Champagnie lol

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I'm not sure what I'm missing but I see potential there to be different from a lot of guys in our range that strike me as high level roleplayers. He may be as well too but there's something there to work with imo. Of course ideally, I wish we could find someone who's a more natural scorer/shooter that posses a similar kind of upside overall but I don't see another one in our range with at least the framework to be a higher upside prospect than Cissiko. Maybe Bilal is, I've tried to dig to see more game footage of him to have a better feel for his game, would admit I likely haven't seen enough but overall he does seem VERY raw. But obviously you can see he's a different kind of athlete...but Sidy is no slouch, he's a grown man that's only going to get more "grown" but has a better bball IQ from what I can see, seems safer while still possessing upside. Just my 2c.

He seems like a complete player that can play SG/SF. He has a nice drop step can dunk from 1 step. He's like OG with playmaking skills. He's also STILL only 18 for a couple more weeks!!!

1. Wemby
2. Miller
3. Scoot
4. Walker
5. Dick
6. Hendricks
7. Cason
8. Cissoko

But probably GM's will pick the Thompsons, Black, Whitmore, George, Rupert, Smith, before our pick. Hopefully with Scoot out, Leonard Miller keeps playing well and someone takes him before Cissoko.

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[Thaddy]

I currently have my board as the following for the lottery. I'm guessing we end up in the 12th spot. If that gets us either Rupert or Wallace you have to be happy. They will at the very least be good rotation players.

1. Wembyama
2. Brandon Miller
3. Scoot Henderson
4. Jarace Walker
5. Amen Thompson
6. Ausar Thompson
7. Nick Smith
8. Anthony Black
9. Cam Whitmore
10. Taylor Hendricks
11. Keyonte George
12. Rayan Rupert
13. Cason Wallace
14. Gradey Dick
15. Jalen Hood-Schifino

[ArthurVandelay]

Wouldn't Cissoko be a better prospect? Passes like a combo guard, shoots the NBA 3 around 33% already as an 18 year old. Already has an NBA ready body.

Everyone grows and develops at their own pace. No doubt 18 year old Cissoko is rocking a grown man build.

The whole goal of scouting is projecting what players will be. Coulibaly’s build and athleticism combined with his agility/fluidity are very intriguing to me. He looks like he could be special.

I watch for some really weird things, like how a guy moves or how their shot goes through the net.

I’m high on Cissoko too fwiw.

I can't see why you have Coulibaly over Rupert.

The guys we've seen come out of the NBL have a high degree of success from Giddy, LaMelo, Daniels, etc. There's been some bad players like Ferguson I guess but he was a non factor in that league too.

Rupert's team the Breakers made the finals this year. He was also a rotation player and played pretty well despite a poor offensive package. He would be an instant role player for us because of his defense and he would just need to get a 3Pt shot to be our back up SF.

He transitioned from being a point guard to a wing player so there's creation potential there as well. I'd be interested in seeing how they match up once combine stats come out. Coulibaly might be a benefactor of playing with a generational talent as well.

As of now I'd lean towards the more proven Rupert. He just has less liability that comes with him and we've seen past success with similar prospects from the NBL.

Longer term I see both guys being great defensive players. Coulibaly has a big edge offensively in my opinion.

I get what you’re saying. I’d be happy with either player draft night.

[ArthurVandelay]

Wouldn't Cissoko be a better prospect? Passes like a combo guard, shoots the NBA 3 around 33% already as an 18 year old. Already has an NBA ready body.

Everyone grows and develops at their own pace. No doubt 18 year old Cissoko is rocking a grown man build.

The whole goal of scouting is projecting what players will be. Coulibaly’s build and athleticism combined with his agility/fluidity are very intriguing to me. He looks like he could be special.

I watch for some really weird things, like how a guy moves or how their shot goes through the net.

I’m high on Cissoko too fwiw.

I think Sidy might be my guy for our pick.

He was top of my list coming into the year (because I assumed we were going to be the average team we are), but he started out slow but he has seriously come on in this last couple of months. He's been ballin out, dropping 20+ppg, his shooting numbers have gone up & doing so showing a ton of variety in his skill package. I would think if any other kid in college with his versatility was doing that, they'd be skyrocketing up draft boards, something like how Hendricks is (who I don't think he'll be there when we draft). Sidy is looking like one of the best kept secrets in the draft to me & at this point I'm almost hoping he slows down so the buzz around him didn't boom last minute like it did Daniels.

Nice seeing him work "free man" Champagnie lol

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I'm not sure what I'm missing but I see potential there to be different from a lot of guys in our range that strike me as high level roleplayers. He may be as well too but there's something there to work with imo. Of course ideally, I wish we could find someone who's a more natural scorer/shooter that posses a similar kind of upside overall but I don't see another one in our range with at least the framework to be a higher upside prospect than Cissiko. Maybe Bilal is, I've tried to dig to see more game footage of him to have a better feel for his game, would admit I likely haven't seen enough but overall he does seem VERY raw. But obviously you can see he's a different kind of athlete...but Sidy is no slouch, he's a grown man that's only going to get more "grown" but has a better bball IQ from what I can see, seems safer while still possessing upside. Just my 2c.

Cissoko is going to have a great opportunity the rest of the season with Scoot shut down.

[grant101]

Everyone grows and develops at their own pace. No doubt 18 year old Cissoko is rocking a grown man build.

The whole goal of scouting is projecting what players will be. Coulibaly’s build and athleticism combined with his agility/fluidity are very intriguing to me. He looks like he could be special.

I watch for some really weird things, like how a guy moves or how their shot goes through the net.

I’m high on Cissoko too fwiw.

I think Sidy might be my guy for our pick.

He was top of my list coming into the year (because I assumed we were going to be the average team we are), but he started out slow but he has seriously come on in this last couple of months. He's been ballin out, dropping 20+ppg, his shooting numbers have gone up & doing so showing a ton of variety in his skill package. I would think if any other kid in college with his versatility was doing that, they'd be skyrocketing up draft boards, something like how Hendricks is (who I don't think he'll be there when we draft). Sidy is looking like one of the best kept secrets in the draft to me & at this point I'm almost hoping he slows down so the buzz around him didn't boom last minute like it did Daniels.

Nice seeing him work "free man" Champagnie lol

Watch on YouTube

I'm not sure what I'm missing but I see potential there to be different from a lot of guys in our range that strike me as high level roleplayers. He may be as well too but there's something there to work with imo. Of course ideally, I wish we could find someone who's a more natural scorer/shooter that posses a similar kind of upside overall but I don't see another one in our range with at least the framework to be a higher upside prospect than Cissiko. Maybe Bilal is, I've tried to dig to see more game footage of him to have a better feel for his game, would admit I likely haven't seen enough but overall he does seem VERY raw. But obviously you can see he's a different kind of athlete...but Sidy is no slouch, he's a grown man that's only going to get more "grown" but has a better bball IQ from what I can see, seems safer while still possessing upside. Just my 2c.

Cissoko is going to have a great opportunity the rest of the season with Scoot shut down.

I need to catch up with Sidy. Wrote him off earlier in the year after seeing him float about in games. I wasn't sure what he did at an NBA level - inconsistent effort on defence and on offence his tendency to float along the perimeter and fall back on that step back 3ptr was so frustrating. Seems to have turned his season around, so I'll be watching more closely now that he's got the spotlight.

For Bilal, it's all about the flashes and projecting that forward (build, reps, confidence). I think there's a potential monster in there with his instincts on ball and athletic tools. He just kind of moves differently out there. I could be very wrong of course (wouldn't be the first time).