With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter!

[HangTime]

Love this kids mentality and his game. It's a shame that he hasn't had more minutes and a bigger role this season. I think he would have been much further ahead.

Hopefully he has proved himself to the coaching staff after this one & he finishes off the season getting 25 minutes or more every game.

I think the coaching staff has known for a long time, but they want to bring him along slowly.

No training camp, 2 injuries, spot starts.

Development is being done slowly, and in plain sight.

The heavy lifting is being done behind the scenes.

[Duffman100]

Love this kids mentality and his game. It's a shame that he hasn't had more minutes and a bigger role this season. I think he would have been much further ahead.

Hopefully he has proved himself to the coaching staff after this one & he finishes off the season getting 25 minutes or more every game.

I think the coaching staff has known for a long time, but they want to bring him along slowly.

No training camp, 2 injuries, spot starts.

Development is being done in slowly, and in plain sight.

The heavy lifting is being done behind the scenes.

yeah he started the season at 19, he's only 20. He's so young and had a setback.

I like how they've brought him along, seems like an organizational philosphy.

[YogurtProducer]

Ochai is a 3-D SF in a SG body. I would trade Agbaji at the draft to get Alex Condon, who would be a 3+D PF/C that has an A/T of over 2.

Maybe Ochai gets traded in a package with Barrett for KD or who knows.

I'd say the odds of moving Ochai for a late 1st/early 2nd are slim-to-none.

I think Dick is the trade candidate this off-season. I just don't see room for him. Agabji is a better player today, Walter has more potential IMO, and we might draft a guard.

I agree. I just hope if moved we get a similar type upside guy/pick in return. I guess if they don't, they won't move him.

If Ochai starts for better balance, you still end up with Gradey and RJ off the bench which hurts defensively.

And if not, we'll then you have Shead, JKW, Gradey and Ochai off the bench which is small. I could see us lean into the "strong defense" bench and Shead, JKW and Ochai for that. Gradey doesn't. And at that point you need size beside the others. And Gradey doesn't do that either....Mogbo does. Plus Battle can get Gradeys shots for cheaper, and more makes.

Lots of options for MU to figure out. Better than not enough options I guess.

I really feel like now is the time to move DIck, becuase if we come out next year and threaten to secure a legit playoff spot we could be in trouble of Dick not even being in the rotation.

IQ/Shead
Agabji/RJ
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/backup C

And that does not have Walter or Dick in it or our 2025 1st or our early 2025 2nd.

I have more faith in Battle than Dick tbh at this point. What does Dick do better than Battle other than miss higher difficulty shots?

Edit: or you move RJ and hope Dick grows into your bench scorer.

[Duffman100]

I'd say the odds of moving Ochai for a late 1st/early 2nd are slim-to-none.

I think Dick is the trade candidate this off-season. I just don't see room for him. Agabji is a better player today, Walter has more potential IMO, and we might draft a guard.

I agree. I just hope if moved we get a similar type upside guy/pick in return. I guess if they don't, they won't move him.

If Ochai starts for better balance, you still end up with Gradey and RJ off the bench which hurts defensively.

And if not, we'll then you have Shead, JKW, Gradey and Ochai off the bench which is small. I could see us lean into the "strong defense" bench and Shead, JKW and Ochai for that. Gradey doesn't. And at that point you need size beside the others. And Gradey doesn't do that either....Mogbo does. Plus Battle can get Gradeys shots for cheaper, and more makes.

Lots of options for MU to figure out. Better than not enough options I guess.

I really feel like now is the time to move DIck, becuase if we come out next year and threaten to secure a legit playoff spot we could be in trouble of Dick not even being in the rotation.

IQ/Shead
Agabji/RJ
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/backup C

And that does not have Walter or Dick in it or our 2025 1st or our early 2025 2nd.

I have more faith in Battle than Dick tbh at this point. What does Dick do better than Battle other than miss higher difficulty shots?

Edit: or you move RJ and hope Dick grows into your bench scorer.

My hesitation with moving Dick would be we'd be selling so low. I still have a feeling he's going to become an elite shooter once his body catches up...

Will he be a positive player on the court? I don't know..

[Tripod]

I'd say the odds of moving Ochai for a late 1st/early 2nd are slim-to-none.

I think Dick is the trade candidate this off-season. I just don't see room for him. Agabji is a better player today, Walter has more potential IMO, and we might draft a guard.

I agree. I just hope if moved we get a similar type upside guy/pick in return. I guess if they don't, they won't move him.

If Ochai starts for better balance, you still end up with Gradey and RJ off the bench which hurts defensively.

And if not, we'll then you have Shead, JKW, Gradey and Ochai off the bench which is small. I could see us lean into the "strong defense" bench and Shead, JKW and Ochai for that. Gradey doesn't. And at that point you need size beside the others. And Gradey doesn't do that either....Mogbo does. Plus Battle can get Gradeys shots for cheaper, and more makes.

Lots of options for MU to figure out. Better than not enough options I guess.

I really feel like now is the time to move DIck, becuase if we come out next year and threaten to secure a legit playoff spot we could be in trouble of Dick not even being in the rotation.

IQ/Shead
Agabji/RJ
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/backup C

And that does not have Walter or Dick in it or our 2025 1st or our early 2025 2nd.

I have more faith in Battle than Dick tbh at this point. What does Dick do better than Battle other than miss higher difficulty shots?

I agree. And moving Dick allows us to use him to fill the whole at backup C or PF. Mogbo is still too limited if we are serious about winning next year. Let him get actual offensive minutes on 905 and play mop up time in NBA....like what was expected this year before all the injuries dictated otherwise.

Plus young guys make more mistakes as a whole. Having a "vet" PF or C out there helps keep things running smoother.

[YogurtProducer]

I agree. I just hope if moved we get a similar type upside guy/pick in return. I guess if they don't, they won't move him.

If Ochai starts for better balance, you still end up with Gradey and RJ off the bench which hurts defensively.

And if not, we'll then you have Shead, JKW, Gradey and Ochai off the bench which is small. I could see us lean into the "strong defense" bench and Shead, JKW and Ochai for that. Gradey doesn't. And at that point you need size beside the others. And Gradey doesn't do that either....Mogbo does. Plus Battle can get Gradeys shots for cheaper, and more makes.

Lots of options for MU to figure out. Better than not enough options I guess.

I really feel like now is the time to move DIck, becuase if we come out next year and threaten to secure a legit playoff spot we could be in trouble of Dick not even being in the rotation.

IQ/Shead
Agabji/RJ
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/backup C

And that does not have Walter or Dick in it or our 2025 1st or our early 2025 2nd.

I have more faith in Battle than Dick tbh at this point. What does Dick do better than Battle other than miss higher difficulty shots?

Edit: or you move RJ and hope Dick grows into your bench scorer.

My hesitation with moving Dick would be we'd be selling so low. I still have a feeling he's going to become an elite shooter once his body catches up...

Will he be a positive player on the court? I don't know..

I agree, and my thought would be you could trade him (maybe package the POR 2nd or some other asset) for a PF/C who is also younger and maybe "buying low" on another asset. Almost a flip of young guys who have underwhelmed.

Mark Williams maybe? He was literally traded for Knecht and a 1st. Dick and a distant (protected) 1st for Williams if we think his health would be fine is interesting. Would allow you to consider moving Poeltl to in a deal if that works out.

I agree. And moving Dick allows us to use him to fill the whole at backup C or PF. Mogbo is still too limited if we are serious about winning next year. Let him get actual offensive minutes on 905 and play mop up time in NBA....like what was expected this year before all the injuries dictated otherwise.

Plus young guys make more mistakes as a whole. Having a "vet" PF or C out there helps keep things running smoother.

I am hoping Boucher can be retained on a cheap deal to be a backup 4. Get a backup C somehow and Mogbo/Robinson can be your 5th/6th guys there.

[WuTang_CMB]

this is what supreme confidence looks like. At only 20, bravo

[Tripod]

I really feel like now is the time to move DIck, becuase if we come out next year and threaten to secure a legit playoff spot we could be in trouble of Dick not even being in the rotation.

IQ/Shead
Agabji/RJ
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/backup C

And that does not have Walter or Dick in it or our 2025 1st or our early 2025 2nd.

I have more faith in Battle than Dick tbh at this point. What does Dick do better than Battle other than miss higher difficulty shots?

Edit: or you move RJ and hope Dick grows into your bench scorer.

My hesitation with moving Dick would be we'd be selling so low. I still have a feeling he's going to become an elite shooter once his body catches up...

Will he be a positive player on the court? I don't know..

I agree, and my thought would be you could trade him (maybe package the POR 2nd or some other asset) for a PF/C who is also younger and maybe "buying low" on another asset. Almost a flip of young guys who have underwhelmed.

Mark Williams maybe? He was literally traded for Knecht and a 1st. Dick and a distant (protected) 1st for Williams if we think his health would be fine is interesting. Would allow you to consider moving Poeltl to in a deal if that works out.

I agree. And moving Dick allows us to use him to fill the whole at backup C or PF. Mogbo is still too limited if we are serious about winning next year. Let him get actual offensive minutes on 905 and play mop up time in NBA....like what was expected this year before all the injuries dictated otherwise.

Plus young guys make more mistakes as a whole. Having a "vet" PF or C out there helps keep things running smoother.

I am hoping Boucher can be retained on a cheap deal to be a backup 4. Get a backup C somehow and Mogbo/Robinson can be your 5th/6th guys there.

Meanwhile Orlando will have 3 C's in Goga, WCJ, and Wagner and need scoring.

[YogurtProducer]

My hesitation with moving Dick would be we'd be selling so low. I still have a feeling he's going to become an elite shooter once his body catches up...

Will he be a positive player on the court? I don't know..

I agree, and my thought would be you could trade him (maybe package the POR 2nd or some other asset) for a PF/C who is also younger and maybe "buying low" on another asset. Almost a flip of young guys who have underwhelmed.

Mark Williams maybe? He was literally traded for Knecht and a 1st. Dick and a distant (protected) 1st for Williams if we think his health would be fine is interesting. Would allow you to consider moving Poeltl to in a deal if that works out.

I agree. And moving Dick allows us to use him to fill the whole at backup C or PF. Mogbo is still too limited if we are serious about winning next year. Let him get actual offensive minutes on 905 and play mop up time in NBA....like what was expected this year before all the injuries dictated otherwise.

Plus young guys make more mistakes as a whole. Having a "vet" PF or C out there helps keep things running smoother.

I am hoping Boucher can be retained on a cheap deal to be a backup 4. Get a backup C somehow and Mogbo/Robinson can be your 5th/6th guys there.

Meanwhile Orlando will have 3 C's in Goga, WCJ, and Wagner and need scoring.

Yeah they are a decent potential trade partner.

IDK what a deal would even look like. All make to much for a Dick deal. RJ maybe but IDK if they would have any interest in that at all

[Duffman100]

this is what supreme confidence looks like. At only 20, bravo

I have this weird feeling that is potential is being underrated.

[Jerry Lucas]

this is what supreme confidence looks like. At only 20, bravo

I have this weird feeling that is potential is being underrated.

I've been feeling that too since before the Raptors even drafted him. His 1st half splits were way better than his 2nd half splits in his freshman season, and Bobby pointed to a knee issue that he was playing through as if they believed that contributed to his struggles.

If you only looked at his 1st half production, he was looking like one of the top prospects in the draft. I'm starting to also feel the same about the way people are now talking about Kasparas Jakucionis since he returned from his injury.

[Raps in 4]

this is what supreme confidence looks like. At only 20, bravo

We're literally drawing up ATO plays for our rookie to take the game-winning shot, and people claim we aren't tanking. We're tanking. We're just too good.

[Psubs]

this is what supreme confidence looks like. At only 20, bravo

I have this weird feeling that is potential is being underrated.

I've been feeling that too since before the Raptors even drafted him. His 1st half splits were way better than his 2nd half splits in his freshman season, and Bobby pointed to a knee issue that he was playing through as if they believed that contributed to his struggles.

If you only looked at his 1st half production, he was looking like one of the top prospects in the draft. I'm starting to also feel the same about the way people are now talking about Kasparas Jakucionis since he returned from his injury.

He was already dropping off before the injury.

[Psubs]

I agree, and my thought would be you could trade him (maybe package the POR 2nd or some other asset) for a PF/C who is also younger and maybe "buying low" on another asset. Almost a flip of young guys who have underwhelmed.

Mark Williams maybe? He was literally traded for Knecht and a 1st. Dick and a distant (protected) 1st for Williams if we think his health would be fine is interesting. Would allow you to consider moving Poeltl to in a deal if that works out.

I am hoping Boucher can be retained on a cheap deal to be a backup 4. Get a backup C somehow and Mogbo/Robinson can be your 5th/6th guys there.

Meanwhile Orlando will have 3 C's in Goga, WCJ, and Wagner and need scoring.

Yeah they are a decent potential trade partner.

IDK what a deal would even look like. All make to much for a Dick deal. RJ maybe but IDK if they would have any interest in that at all

I would trade Ochai Agbaji for Tristan DaSilva for sure. Trade Ochai while his stock is high and get DaSilva while hes still rookie playing behind Paolo and Franz.

[DKB333]

Happy for the kid hitting the game winner but man they needed to lose that game. The schedule going forward is a joke and only being 4 games out of the play-in is worriesome.

[Indeed]

this is what supreme confidence looks like. At only 20, bravo

We're literally drawing up ATO plays for our rookie to take the game-winning shot, and people claim we aren't tanking. We're tanking. We're just too good.

Unsure we are being too good. If this is for Dick, he might not get open and missed the shot

These contested shots are the college shots Walter gets, he is used to these type of shots and in these type of situations, and he lives on his expectation, which is positive. I always have him over Dick, but Walter needs to make his 3s more consistently to be a rotation player.

[Son Goku 25]

He'll be a valuable piece for us and an excellent shot maker from double teams and such. Id love it if he can be our Derrick White.

[Dalek]

He had a wild typical rookie game before the game winner. He had more than five turnovers and some shots missed, but then he was all heart of the boards and drawing fouls. His best skill is drawing fouls.

I just want the kid more filled out. If he plays this physical he is bound to get injured if he keeps this skinny body type.

[original fan]

Gradey is going to be a stud, he will surprise a lot of people.He will be more than a specialist.He will also be cheap for the next 2 years.RJ on the other hand makes too much and possibly asks for even more, his skills becomes diminished with B.I on the team, he is a terrible defender, he pushes us to the tax limits.So it would be a very natural and logical move to trade him for say a back up big(position of need) and prolly a late pick as well.This will create balance and flow in more ways than one.

[mtcan]

I agree. I just hope if moved we get a similar type upside guy/pick in return. I guess if they don't, they won't move him.

If Ochai starts for better balance, you still end up with Gradey and RJ off the bench which hurts defensively.

And if not, we'll then you have Shead, JKW, Gradey and Ochai off the bench which is small. I could see us lean into the "strong defense" bench and Shead, JKW and Ochai for that. Gradey doesn't. And at that point you need size beside the others. And Gradey doesn't do that either....Mogbo does. Plus Battle can get Gradeys shots for cheaper, and more makes.

Lots of options for MU to figure out. Better than not enough options I guess.

I really feel like now is the time to move DIck, becuase if we come out next year and threaten to secure a legit playoff spot we could be in trouble of Dick not even being in the rotation.

IQ/Shead
Agabji/RJ
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/backup C

And that does not have Walter or Dick in it or our 2025 1st or our early 2025 2nd.

I have more faith in Battle than Dick tbh at this point. What does Dick do better than Battle other than miss higher difficulty shots?

Edit: or you move RJ and hope Dick grows into your bench scorer.

My hesitation with moving Dick would be we'd be selling so low. I still have a feeling he's going to become an elite shooter once his body catches up...

Will he be a positive player on the court? I don't know..

No need to move anyone this summer before we see what a few new additions will look like.

But the addition of BI and whoever else we take in the draft may mean limited minutes for Gradey and Jakobe (unless it's a big man that is taken in the draft) so we likely won't get to see them in heavy minutes at all going forward.