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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1301 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:28 am

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:I'd be surprised if the Raps spend a 1st on a smaller guard like Jase. Not only because they have a few in the organization but because with dean's new influence he always heavily taxes small guards (to his detriment last year when it comes to McCain) but that's how it'll be.

But I could see them going after a Walter Clayton in the 2nd depending on who they draft in the 1st.


Get Condon and Clayton duo. They have Florida as a top 5 team after being a pre-season team ranked in the 20's.

Thomas Haugh is my guy on Florida

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We can draft him next year in the early 20's. 8-)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1302 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:37 am

RoteSchroder wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Who brought up Thiam? Sick find


Found him on reddit when I was looking for sleepers. This guy ranked him at #4 on his 2025 top 10.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1in9mit/my_top_10_so_far/

Just watched 5 condensed highlights of UCF games:

Pros
- Further along offensively than Maluach. He hits mid-range/long 2's almost every game. He's even shown a turn around fadeaway. Gets a high release on his jumpers combined with his height.

- Range extends to 3 point land

- Soft touch around the rim, makes lots of hook shots. Comparatively, Maluach getting a lot of dunks after being set up by teammates is not really a plus for me..Mogbo also got lots of dunks

- Has been improving as the season progresses, very key for his future projection

- 7'2, 9'7 standing reach

- shot blocker

- From the passes I've seen (not many), it doesn't seem like he's a bad passer. The TO's I've seen came from fumbling the ball after putting it on the floor and going for a screen when his teammate passed it to him.

- Decent mobility, but maybe not to the level of Maluach. Highlights of opposing team's offense don't show that many sophisticated schemes or P/R action even.


Cons
- Jumper needs further polishing and a quicker release would be nice

- Needs polishing on defense, but it seems to me that a lot of it is teachable

- Below average rebounder for a C - although this might be improving and may improve with increased strength. I think Lively started off his season with questionable rebounding numbers

- Needs to fill out his frame and increase strength. One of the easiest things to develop for prospects though, unless you're Boucher or something.

- Jogs a lot in transition when he starts off behind the play. If he's in the play, he can turn on the jets, not super fast, but good enough.


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/moustapha-thiam-1/splits/2025?&per_game=1

As a freshman he started slow in December but earned more minutes and with more minutes his fouls have gone. Geez, look at his %'s from 3 each month, so consistent.

After those 6 initial November games his blocks / foul is good.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1303 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:46 am

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Thaddy wrote:Maluach is a low ceiling high floor prospect. He's going to be a good defensive helper but on offense he isn't showing much. His ast%, blk% and several others are pretty low. This isn't the draft to take a big man, we should be looking to add another guard or wing that would be the BPA. In the 5-10 range I would probably take the risk on Fears, Queen, Traore or Johnson.



Watch a few of Duke games and you will see how he impacts the game without scoring. Also watch his BAL and olympic games . He has offensive potentials. Kid has only played basketball for 3 years.


Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


You're not finding a Maluach size and mobility with our 2nd round pick. His floor I believe in, it's easy to see his highet and mobility translating on our squad. Orlando Robinson looks half decent in his limited time and he's only good because he's tall and not dumb. His ceiling is the question because we really haven't seen any monster games from him
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1304 » by Thaddy » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:53 am

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Watch a few of Duke games and you will see how he impacts the game without scoring. Also watch his BAL and olympic games . He has offensive potentials. Kid has only played basketball for 3 years.


Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


You're not finding a Maluach size and mobility with our 2nd round pick. His floor I believe in, it's easy to see his highet and mobility translating on our squad. Orlando Robinson looks half decent in his limited time and he's only good because he's tall and not dumb. His ceiling is the question because we really haven't seen any monster games from him

College is for expanding your game and showing growth. They've really limited him to being a defensive big and even there he's not playing aggressively since they don't want him in foul trouble. Then you have his offensive game where his three point shooting is also being limited. I don't see him being any better than Bol Bol.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1305 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:56 am

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Watch a few of Duke games and you will see how he impacts the game without scoring. Also watch his BAL and olympic games . He has offensive potentials. Kid has only played basketball for 3 years.


Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


You're not finding a Maluach size and mobility with our 2nd round pick. His floor I believe in, it's easy to see his highet and mobility translating on our squad. Orlando Robinson looks half decent in his limited time and he's only good because he's tall and not dumb. His ceiling is the question because we really haven't seen any monster games from him


Oooooh, Robinson should not be brought back next season. Though I guess Zvonimir might have similar limitations as Robinson but can shoot the 3 at 40% and is more skilled on offensive moves. Orlando is out there playing like he's in highschool.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1306 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:45 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:
Thaddy wrote:Maluach is a low ceiling high floor prospect. He's going to be a good defensive helper but on offense he isn't showing much. His ast%, blk% and several others are pretty low. This isn't the draft to take a big man, we should be looking to add another guard or wing that would be the BPA. In the 5-10 range I would probably take the risk on Fears, Queen, Traore or Johnson.



Watch a few of Duke games and you will see how he impacts the game without scoring. Also watch his BAL and olympic games . He has offensive potentials. Kid has only played basketball for 3 years.


Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


I hate to break it to you but I feel this front office is all over Maluach and I’m not making the lazy giants of Africa connection. Ingram, Scottie, RJ and Quickley are going to play 35 minutes at PF, SF, SG and PG. We have glut of guards and forwards so I don’t see the development minutes for lottery pick. Back up Center is a need and I can just see the front office believing in their ability to develop athletic players.

Hopefully I’m wrong and Malauch is awesome or they draft another awesome player but I can just see them talking themselves into Malauch from almost any position outside of the top 4.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1307 » by TorontoBarneys » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:48 am

People are sleeping on Tre.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1308 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:49 am

TorontoBarneys wrote:People are sleeping on Tre.


Tre'Mond?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1309 » by Mark_83 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:50 am

It's VJ or TJ for me unless we move into the top 3. Either one would be a huge addition to our roster. Unreal and clutch performance from Johnson tonight against a talented Arkansas squad.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1310 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:12 am

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DreamTeam09 wrote:
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Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


You're not finding a Maluach size and mobility with our 2nd round pick. His floor I believe in, it's easy to see his highet and mobility translating on our squad. Orlando Robinson looks half decent in his limited time and he's only good because he's tall and not dumb. His ceiling is the question because we really haven't seen any monster games from him

College is for expanding your game and showing growth. They've really limited him to being a defensive big and even there he's not playing aggressively since they don't want him in foul trouble. Then you have his offensive game where his three point shooting is also being limited. I don't see him being any better than Bol Bol.


Maluach might end up being a bit of a stiff and a bust that makes you think "he would have been good in the 90s" but he's nothing like Bol Bol. Maluach seems like way more of a team player who will do dirty work and not complain, but also he isn't going to hit stepback 3s or handle like a guard. Bol Bol's college team instantly got better on D when he got hurt. I don't think that's true of a guy like Maluach.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1311 » by dballislife » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:25 am

cmb, asa, noa, fleming, and bryant...how would you rank their perimeter defenese?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1312 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:29 am

Pointgod wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

Watch a few of Duke games and you will see how he impacts the game without scoring. Also watch his BAL and olympic games . He has offensive potentials. Kid has only played basketball for 3 years.


Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


I hate to break it to you but I feel this front office is all over Maluach and I’m not making the lazy giants of Africa connection. Ingram, Scottie, RJ and Quickley are going to play 35 minutes at PF, SF, SG and PG. We have glut of guards and forwards so I don’t see the development minutes for lottery pick. Back up Center is a need and I can just see the front office believing in their ability to develop athletic players.

Hopefully I’m wrong and Malauch is awesome or they draft another awesome player but I can just see them talking themselves into Malauch from almost any position outside of the top 4.


Moses Brown just put up a 20 11 3 2 game just because he's over 7ft and can run and not completely totally useless. Our offense and our players could use a 7ft safety valve, or someone who can wall off the paint. The league already has a bunch of 7ft freaks, we need one. I feel like more ppl during the combine might warm up to him some more.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1313 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:34 am

dballislife wrote:cmb, asa, noa, fleming, and bryant...how would you rank their perimeter defenese?


Who's Bryant I haven't done my Google's.

From what I've watched and the players ino

CMB / Fleming / Noa / Asa as far as perimeter defense. Asa projects the best shot blocker if I'm not mistaken...
I'm high in Flemming tho, Asa would be my #1 pick if he was walking around at 7ft, well maybe #2
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Post#1314 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:39 am

Just wondering how Tre's passing game is and hows his defense? My concern would be that he'd be a bit small and would be slowed down in playoffs. Seems like he plays below the rim and has a modern day PG body without the playmaking.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1315 » by bballsparkin » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:42 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:Just wondering how Tre's passing game is and hows his defense? My concern would be that he'd be a bit small and would be slowed down in playoffs. Seems like he plays below the rim and has a modern day PG body without the playmaking.


I'm thinking if his defence was good he'd be top 3. :D
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1316 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:48 am

Charlotte traded Nick Richards for Josh Okogie and 2nd picks. Also, trying to trade Mark Williams for Dalton Knecht, should signal that they will be drafting Khaman Maluach unless they get #1 Cooper Flagg. They did trade Cody Martin and Micic for Nurkic but he's not their future C.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1317 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:42 am

bballsparkin wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:Just wondering how Tre's passing game is and hows his defense? My concern would be that he'd be a bit small and would be slowed down in playoffs. Seems like he plays below the rim and has a modern day PG body without the playmaking.


I'm thinking if his defence was good he'd be top 3. :D


Id love to get him but we're already pretty thin in our backcourt, we need 2 way players unless we look to trade IQ and or Dick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1318 » by Thaddy » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:43 am

Psubs wrote:Charlotte traded Nick Richards for Josh Okogie and 2nd picks. Also, trying to trade Mark Williams for Dalton Knecht, should signal that they will be drafting Khaman Maluach unless they get #1 Cooper Flagg. They did trade Cody Martin and Micic for Nurkic but he's not their future C.

They might be interested in getting a good shooter next to Ball and it has nothing to do with Williams. I would offer them Dick for the 2027 Mavs 1st and Williams.

Poeltl / Williams
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Walter
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Post#1319 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:01 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:Just wondering how Tre's passing game is and hows his defense? My concern would be that he'd be a bit small and would be slowed down in playoffs. Seems like he plays below the rim and has a modern day PG body without the playmaking.


Hes 6"6 ....Thats the same height as most SGs in NBA history....Not so much a PGs body...He maybe a little skinny but hes still a kid so thats to be expected....He does not need a passing game as hes not a PG But he is still capable at making passes and does not have blinders on...He can find the open man if need be....Hes a shot making 3 level scoring guard....

His defense is good enough....A million times better than Dicks...Hes not no world beating defender though....All his value is to make shots and tough shots at a pretty elite level..
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1320 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:13 am

Pointgod wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

Watch a few of Duke games and you will see how he impacts the game without scoring. Also watch his BAL and olympic games . He has offensive potentials. Kid has only played basketball for 3 years.


Honestly man I don't want anymore major projects, especially at C which is a position that usually takes a longer time to learn than others.

I don't trust Maluach's floor, especially when we can grab guys later in the draft who have higher floors and can do most of what we'd expect from Maluach.


I hate to break it to you but I feel this front office is all over Maluach and I’m not making the lazy giants of Africa connection. Ingram, Scottie, RJ and Quickley are going to play 35 minutes at PF, SF, SG and PG. We have glut of guards and forwards so I don’t see the development minutes for lottery pick. Back up Center is a need and I can just see the front office believing in their ability to develop athletic players.

Hopefully I’m wrong and Malauch is awesome or they draft another awesome player but I can just see them talking themselves into Malauch from almost any position outside of the top 4.


I have the same feeling as well....If we stay outside the top 4 i think Maluach becomes our pick most likely due to need more than anything....We need a rim running shot blocking rim protector the most....I am not happy about him being our pick as i think he has the highest bust potential in the top of the draft but it makes the most sense team building wise....

Lets just hope we move up and avoid that situation.
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