Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[JKiddy]

If TWill continues to progress like he did last year he will be far from mediocre. The Nets also have picks #27 and #31 this year. Plus, they plenty of future 1st round picks. CDR can drop close to 20 a game if he played in your system with the right surrounding cast. If you guys trade Bosh instead of letting him walk for nothing I would try to grab one or two young guys who might be able to turn into something like a CDR/TWill and grab a first and second round pick. The Nets have that this year. No other team will give you more or has more of what you need.

To be honest with you Bosh can truly screw you guys and just outright leave. That's dangerous. He said he will help you guys with a Sign and Trade which I respect very much. If I were Toronto and could get CDR, Yi, the #27 pick this year and the 31st pick (or a future first rounder) I would take it.

Before the coaching change when CDR was getting plenty of burn he was averaging about 25 points a game, 6 boards, and 3 assists. While that might not be incredible. If you gave him the rock and let him grow he can be a semi-star. You grab those picks and you can grab a steal in the draft or a Euro player and have him play overseas for a year or three while you rebuild. You have a solid scouting staff and I have a strong feeling the Raptors will be back sooner than most think.

[hops_88]

If TWill continues to progress like he did last year he will be far from mediocre. The Nets also have picks #27 and #31 this year. Plus, they plenty of future 1st round picks. CDR can drop close to 20 a game if he played in your system with the right surrounding cast. If you guys trade Bosh instead of letting him walk for nothing I would try to grab one or two young guys who might be able to turn into something like a CDR/TWill and grab a first and second round pick. The Nets have that this year. No other team will give you more or has more of what you need.

To be honest with you Bosh can truly screw you guys and just outright leave. That's dangerous. He said he will help you guys with a Sign and Trade which I respect very much. If I were Toronto and could get CDR, Yi, the #27 pick this year and the 31st pick (or a future first rounder) I would take it.

Before the coaching change when CDR was getting plenty of burn he was averaging about 25 points a game, 6 boards, and 3 assists. While that might not be incredible. If you gave him the rock and let him grow he can be a semi-star. You grab those picks and you can grab a steal in the draft or a Euro player and have him play overseas for a year or three while you rebuild. You have a solid scouting staff and I have a strong feeling the Raptors will be back sooner than most think.

Who lied to you?

[delaney8]

[quote="JKiddy"]If TWill continues to progress like he did last year he will be far from mediocre. The Nets also have picks #27 and #31 this year. Plus, they plenty of future 1st round picks. CDR can drop close to 20 a game if he played in your system with the right surrounding cast. If you guys trade Bosh instead of letting him walk for nothing I would try to grab one or two young guys who might be able to turn into something like a CDR/TWill and grab a first and second round pick. The Nets have that this year. No other team will give you more or has more of what you need.

To be honest with you Bosh can truly screw you guys and just outright leave. That's dangerous. He said he will help you guys with a Sign and Trade which I respect very much. If I were Toronto and could get CDR, Yi, the #27 pick this year and the 31st pick (or a future first rounder) I would take it.

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Two points:
1. Toronto can only trade with whoever Bosh wants to go to so you'd have to convince him to go to NJ first... and some of those assets may be gone in the trade for LeBron (i'm assuming he's the lure)
2. Bosh gets a LOT more money in s sign and trade, which is why he wants to do it...

[AlriteWOLF]

Really hope we KEEP Bosh and don't S&T him for someones hot garbage. What BC should be looking to do is trade Bargnani and doing whatever he can to draft Aldrich. Aldrich/Bosh front court would be one of the best rebounding in the league. Defense would also be very good. This would be incentive enough to Bosh to want to re-sign.

[bboyskinnylegs]

If TWill continues to progress like he did last year he will be far from mediocre. The Nets also have picks #27 and #31 this year. Plus, they plenty of future 1st round picks. CDR can drop close to 20 a game if he played in your system with the right surrounding cast. If you guys trade Bosh instead of letting him walk for nothing I would try to grab one or two young guys who might be able to turn into something like a CDR/TWill and grab a first and second round pick. The Nets have that this year. No other team will give you more or has more of what you need.

To be honest with you Bosh can truly screw you guys and just outright leave. That's dangerous. He said he will help you guys with a Sign and Trade which I respect very much. If I were Toronto and could get CDR, Yi, the #27 pick this year and the 31st pick (or a future first rounder) I would take it.

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Two points:
1. Toronto can only trade with whoever Bosh wants to go to so you'd have to convince him to go to NJ first... and some of those assets may be gone in the trade for LeBron (i'm assuming he's the lure)
2. Bosh gets a LOT more money in s sign and trade, which is why he wants to do it...

Why in the world would we want Yi? He's a worse version of Bargs. If we are worried about a potential Bargs/Beasley frontcourt, wouldn't we have even more concerns about a Yi/Bargs frontcourt? (and no, 'marketing' is not a valid reason to bring a player in). The problem with the Nets' wings in CDR/TWill is that they aren't even a big upgrade over our current wings in DD/Weems, and none of them are particularly good long range shooters. Still, with Hedo likely leaving it might be useful to pick up more athleticism on the wings. If the Nets were willing to give up CDR+TWill+#27+#31, then I think we could probably go for that, but if we're taking back Yi, and only getting one of TWill/CDR, I don't think we'd really be very interested.

[TCHOKE]

Bosh being friends with howard
im very surprised no one has made orlando one of the possible s&t destinations

[junot111]

after seeing it on the trade board im really liking the idea of Bosh+Jack to the Clippers for Griffindor+Davis

Griffin is an amazing above the rim post player/banger type that can rebound very well. He will mesh with Bargnani easily and both of them will make each other a better player. Two first overall picks in the same frontcourt? Add that to George/Henry + DeRozan on the wings

[JamesNaismith]

Bosh being friends with howard
im very surprised no one has made orlando one of the possible s&t destinations

ORL has long claimed they want Joe Johnson and I think they will get him.


It think it will be somthing like Gortat/Pietrus/Bass for JJ.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Bosh being friends with howard
im very surprised no one has made orlando one of the possible s&t destinations

ORL has long claimed they want Joe Johnson and I think they will get him.


It think it will be somthing like Gortat/Pietrus/Bass for JJ.

wow, a deal like that would make Atlanta supremely mediocre... but I guess it's better than nothing.

[Condi Rice]

S&T Bosh + Turkey to Miami for Beasley, but I'd settle for a 2nd round pick and filler as long as we dump Turkey

Joel Anthony
Bosh
Turkey
Wade
Chalmers

I think we'd have around $14M in cap space (not including amare johnson)

[miruss2001]

after seeing it on the trade board im really liking the idea of Bosh+Jack to the Clippers for Griffindor+Davis

No chance. Raptors make this move so fast your head pops off. As for the Clips, they'd prove themselves the worst managed team in history unloading Griffin.

[garbagnani]

do you think cb4 would like to play in N.o with Chris Paul?

what about cb4 + turko to NO for darren collison, thorton, #11 + expiring cap filler

I think that would be a good sign and trade for both teams, I imagine bosh would love to play with Chris Paul.

[pspot]

i suggested bosh and turk for lewis, cater, gortat, and 1st a while back

[BrownBalla]

DId anyone think about a Hedo Turkoglu + 13th pick + Marcus Banks + Reggie Evans for Andrea Iguodala swap + Samuel Dalembert trade? Or simply Hedo Turkoglu for Andre Iguodala. Their contracts end the same year and Iguodala makes 4 million a year more than Turkoglu. With Evan Turner coming in and Louis Williams and Jrue Holiday at the point for the 76ers, Hedo Turkoglu fits perfectly for them. He can have absolute facilitating control (which he didn't have with Calderon, which made them both suck), while Williams and Holiday can play off the ball (which imo makes them better players). Calderon will stay as a Raptor and will play much better next season with this line up.

Even if Bosh is traded for Andrew Bynum (and likely someone else to make the trade work) our rosters look like this:

AFTER TRADE 1:
Toronto Raptors
PG: Jose Calderon / Jarret Jack /
SG: Demar DeRozan / Marco Belinelli /
SF: Andre Iguodala / Sonny Weems /
PF: Andrea Bargnani / Amir Johnson (assuming he's resigned) /
Cc: Andrew Bynum / Samuel Dalembert /

Philadelphia 76ers
PG: Louis Williams / Jrue Holiday / Marcus Banks /
SG: Evan Turner (w/ 2nd pick) / Willie Green / Rodney Carney /
SF: Hedo Turkoglu / Thaddeus Young / Jason Kapono /
PF: Elton Brand / Jason Smith / Reggie Evans /
Cc: Cole Aldrich or Hassan Whiteside (w/ 13 pick) / Marreese Speights /

Both teams too. The problem Philly had was that there weren't too many ball movers on the team, with Hedo and Turner, the ball can move much better. Plus Iguodala might slow the development of Evan Turner. Toronto is a better team, but even better with Bosh, but this trade gives him more reason to stay.

AFTER TRADE 2:
Toronto Raptors
PG: Jose Calderon / Jarret Jack / Marcus Banks /
SG: Demar DeRozan / Xavier Henry (w/ 13th pick <-- like this guy btw) / Marco Belinelli /
SF: Andre Iguodala / Sonny Weems /
PF: Andrea Bargnani / Amir Johnson (assuming he's resigned) / Reggie Evans /
Cc: Andrew Bynum / someone!

Philadelphia 76ers
PG: Louis Williams / Jrue Holiday /
SG: Evan Turner (w/ 2nd pick) / Willie Green / Rodney Carney /
SF: Hedo Turkoglu / Thaddeus Young / Jason Kapono /
PF: Elton Brand / Jason Smith /
Cc: Samuel Dalembert / Marreese Speights /

Like the first trade so much more.

FYI - Joel Anthony is a offseason signing I would like to see. I would try to sign and trade Antoine Wright to Maimi for Michael Beasley if they accept (just saying this because of the Dooling - Beasley rumor). They get rid of Beasley, while getting a great perimeter defender in Wright (is an opportunity to cut salary).



EDIT: JUST noticed that if we get both Andrew Bynum and Andre Iguodala, we would have 3 players in our starting line up with "Andre" in their names.

[Grime_Wizard]

Cleveland: Bosh, Calderon
Toronto:Mo Williams, JJ Hickson, Jamison, Rudy Fernandez
Portland:Delonte West, Hedo

[Raptors24seven]

Toronto definitely is going to need a clean up if bosh decides to leave, which now seems like the most likeliest option. I think Toronto should trade calderon/ turkoglu and S&T Chris bosh. Here are my ideas, if bosh decides to leave, tell me what you think.

1st Trade:

Toronto Trades:
Chris Bosh
Sonny Weems

New Orleans Trades:
Darren Collison
Marcus Thornton
2010 1st Round PIck (11Th Overall)

2nd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco belineli
future 2011 1st round pick

Portland Trades:
Greg Oden
Travis Outlaw

3rd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Jose Calderon

Los Angeles Lakers Trade:
2011 1st round pick

Review: First trade bosh goes somewhere where hes with an elite point guard, frontcourt of Bosh/okafor, along with stejakovic and posey, peterson.

Raptors get a point guard of there future, showed excellent strides of success replacing paul and backing him up, posting crazy numbers, Marcus thoronton had a great season and he looks promising, and with the New Orleans 11th pick we take Paul George, a athletic swing man who can hit the three and take it to the hoop.

Second Trade: We get turkoglu out of Toronto which he deserves, throw marco belineli to sweeten the deal, a former 6th overall pick, who can shoot the lights out. We give up a future 1st round pick. Portland nearly landed turkoglu and will love to have him helping their offense, and marco belineli as another swing.

Toronto gets Greg Oden who is frequently bothered by injuries but Toronto will have no problem taking the gamble, also an expiring contract in Travis Outlaw who we could possibly sign.

3rd Trade:

Toronto gives up calderon for cap relief and LA gets a pass first point guard which kobe wants and needs, also you pair up calderon with gasol, who have good chemistry together.

Toronto gets a future first round pick.

11th pick --> Paul George
13th pick --> Hassan Whiteside
Resign Wright, Johnson,
Sign Outlaw, David Lee

2010/2011 Raptor Roster:

Darren Collison/Jarret Jack
Demar Derozan/Marcus Thornton
Paul George/Travis Outlaw/ Antoine Wright
David Lee/Amir Johnson/Joey Dorsey
Andrea Bargnani/Greg Oden

Am I Dreaming??

[Raptors24seven]

sorry i forgot Trais outlaw got traded to the clippers, let me correct the trade.

Toronto Trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco belineli
2011 1st round pick
2011 Second Round PIck

Portland Trades:
Greg Oden
Martel Webster

2010/2011 Raptor Roster

Darrem Collison/Jarret Jack
Demar Derozan/Marcus Thornton
Paul George/ Martel Webster/Antione Wright
David Lee/Amir Johnson
Andrea Bargnani/Greg Oden

[AlriteWOLF]

LeE Bargnani frontcourt>LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We would see ALOT of boxscores like this;

Raptors 120 Opponent X 35500545+

[Raptors24seven]

Darren Collison --> $1,266,120
Jarret jack --> $5,000,000
Marcus Banks --> $4,553,793
Demar Derozan --> $2,282,640
Marcus Thornton --> $4,57588
Paul George --> $2,282,640
Martel Webster --> $4,344,000
Antoine Wright --> 3,000,000
Reggie Evans --> $4,960,000
David Lee --> $ 9,000,000
Amir Johnson --> 4,950,000
Andrea Barganani --> 6,527,491
Greg Oden --> $5,361,240

Salary Cap 2010/2011 --> $64,283,376
Everything works and puts us just over the cap.

[Raptors24seven]

LeE Bargnani frontcourt>LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We would see ALOT of boxscores like this;

Raptors 120 Opponent X 35500545+

first of lee is a proven double double guy and is probably a better rebounder then bosh, and barganani is just gonna continue and grow, get stronger and develop his body.