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2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#1321 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 1:10 pm

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CPT wrote:Kyle Anderson's Twitter is giving me flashbacks to Andrew Bynum's Myspace.

I guess that is evidence that it shouldn't matter, but Jesus Christ kid, STFU.

Thats this generation for you ..alot of prospects tweet like crazy.. KA been like this since his HS days


Yeah I don't know about the other prospects but this kid is giving off this brat vibe
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Post#1322 » by ZUDAMAGIC » Thu Jun 5, 2014 1:38 pm

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CPT wrote:Kyle Anderson's Twitter is giving me flashbacks to Andrew Bynum's Myspace.

I guess that is evidence that it shouldn't matter, but Jesus Christ kid, STFU.

Thats this generation for you ..alot of prospects tweet like crazy.. KA been like this since his HS days


Yeah I don't know about the other prospects but this kid is giving off this brat vibe

He's not man lol he real cool, just active on twitter
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Post#1323 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Jun 5, 2014 1:38 pm

Double Helix wrote:Presti wants to find the next JV so badly. :laugh: He'll soon be to international Cs what Khan was to PGs.


Porzingis is closer to Bargnani with defense. I would bet that there's a lot of truth to this rumour, because Maurizio Gherardini worked for OKC last year AND organizes the Adidas EuroCamp that Porzingis is conspicuously absent from.
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Post#1324 » by Volcano » Thu Jun 5, 2014 3:02 pm

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Nope. They're not similar at all. The best comparison I've heard for Anderson is Hedo Turkoglu.


Do not want.

Hedos short stint here really killed his reputation with Raps fans. Can't say I blame anyone he was hot trash when he signed that fat contract. But there were a few years in Orlando when he was playing with Dwight and he won MIP where he was one hell of a player. If you can get that at #20 that's a hell of a draft.


Pretty sure playing with peak Dwight can help a lot. I've said this a hundred times. His stats in Toronto was pretty much the same as it was the year prior in Orlando per minute.

Orlando had Jameer as a point guard, who couldn't run an offense. Toronto already had an efficient offense with Bosh and Jose could run pick and rolls WAY more efficiently than Hedo. Check Hedo's Orlando stats..he had plenty of trash games. That couldn't fly with Toronto because we didn't have a defensive, rebounding, paint dominating machine to clean up his mess. We couldn't afford to absorb his bad games and inefficient, turnover prone offense when offensive efficiency was pretty much our only strength


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Thespianoid wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/474293995053387778[/tweet]

Referring to their 1st rounder at #21.

Cmon Raps, steal him away! :pray:

Could also be Porzingis' agent trying to fish for a first round bite to prevent withdrawing.


I do find it odd that Porzingis and Inglis reportedly declined to participate at the Eurocamp. As bubble first rounders both guys could stand to gain a lot from a public showing in front of reps from every team in the league, so yeah, perhaps both have received promises and instructions to shut it down. Who knows.



Thespianoid wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/474293995053387778[/tweet]

Referring to their 1st rounder at #21.

Cmon Raps, steal him away! :pray:

Could also be Porzingis' agent trying to fish for a first round bite to prevent withdrawing.


Rumour has it that Boston gave a draft promise to Porzingis. Porzingis originally refused to enter the draft, but changed his mind immediately after Danny Ainge was at one of his games. I forget what it was, but the circumstances were unusual for him to suddenly change his mind, so there was a lot of speculation that Ainge promised to draft him. If it's true, I hope we can get another pick right before Boston and snatch him up.

I've been a huge Porzingis advocate from the moment I heard about him. Although I don't think he's a sure thing, he has a lot of upside on both ends of the court and his biggest weaknesses (strength, experience) are the easiest to fix. Like every player, he still needs to put in the work to reach his potential.

People are scared because of Bargnani, but that doesn't have to do with his style of play (which isn't even the same). The mental factor is the toughest to predict and the management should be doing an equal amount of homework on it as they are doing with everything else. The caliper test is obviously a fail since they interpreted the "I don't give a sh-t" attitude in Bargnani with him having ice in his veins as opposed to "I don't give a sh-t...about basketball"

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Dukenukem23 wrote:Ennis is Kendall Marshall 2.0. Can't finish in traffic, can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he's there at #20 and I hope Masai passes him over for someone with more upside then D league all star.


Kind of funny that your criticisms of Ennis are that he "can't jump, can't play defense, not athletic in any sense" and yet you have Anderson listed as your top draft priority.


It's the case of a dime a dozen player vs a truly unique prospect. Anderson can do what Ennis does but he's got over half a foot of size on him.


Lose 5,000% in foot speed to gain a one foot height advantage. That's a pretty hefty price.

as for the Tony Parker - Ennis comment in the previous page..isn't TP the best PG in history at getting to the basket and finishing? I think he has the highest efficiency in the paint for a PG or something. He's a specialist type of star who plays a certain role within his team's system. I thought Ennis was more pass-first/high IQ type..doesn't sound like TP to me
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Post#1325 » by Sonrisen » Thu Jun 5, 2014 3:41 pm

Double Helix wrote:Presti wants to find the next JV so badly. :laugh: He'll soon be to international Cs what Khan was to PGs.


Porzingis is a stretch 4, more Dirk Light than Val junior.
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Post#1326 » by Indeed » Thu Jun 5, 2014 3:42 pm

Volcano wrote:Rumour has it that Boston gave a draft promise to Porzingis. Porzingis originally refused to enter the draft, but changed his mind immediately after Danny Ainge was at one of his games. I forget what it was, but the circumstances were unusual for him to suddenly change his mind, so there was a lot of speculation that Ainge promised to draft him. If it's true, I hope we can get another pick right before Boston and snatch him up.

I've been a huge Porzingis advocate from the moment I heard about him. Although I don't think he's a sure thing, he has a lot of upside on both ends of the court and his biggest weaknesses (strength, experience) are the easiest to fix. Like every player, he still needs to put in the work to reach his potential.

People are scared because of Bargnani, but that doesn't have to do with his style of play (which isn't even the same). The mental factor is the toughest to predict and the management should be doing an equal amount of homework on it as they are doing with everything else. The caliper test is obviously a fail since they interpreted the "I don't give a sh-t" attitude in Bargnani with him having ice in his veins as opposed to "I don't give a sh-t...about basketball"



What if Boston traded their picks for Love?
But I have a feeling that Porzingis will be drafted regardless in the 15 - 20 range.

The biggest question is Inglis, which I am more interested in with a 2nd round pick to acquire him. However, teams seem to be interested at around 20 - 30. Definitely, I see him better than Kyle Anderson, where Inglis shows his potential to play point forward (same ability as a handler with drive and kick, pick and roll, and etc.). Best thing is, he can guard regular PF even if we go small.
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Post#1327 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 5:40 pm

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Post#1328 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 5:46 pm

What is the knock on Deandre Daniels? Seemed like a competent SF for the UConn team this season.
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Post#1329 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 5:49 pm

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Post#1330 » by Dalek » Thu Jun 5, 2014 5:54 pm

I know this board is going to be flooded with Kyle Anderson love, but I'd just like to say he seems like a poor fit here. I think he is very talented and unselfish, but the fact is he is a player that had possession after possession run through him. Coming to the Raptors he will have to play off the ball. Does this role fit his game? I don't think so. I think we really have to consider the fit when you have Lowry and Derozan and JV who deserve possessions and regularly have the offense go through them.

I think we need a guy like Ross who is a good shooter, energy defender that can play off the ball. Anderson just seems like a poor fit with the way we are composed.
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Post#1331 » by Dalek » Thu Jun 5, 2014 5:58 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:What is the knock on Deandre Daniels? Seemed like a competent SF for the UConn team this season.


I really like him as a prospect but he has some serious flaws. He doesn't pass the ball. Probably the worst SF passing rates in college, so it may not fit in with our philosophy. He is also a thin as a rail which makes him at a disadvantage against big SFs who can play in the post. Plus, he is wildly inconsistent. He can have a great stretch of games but then he disappears. He ended strong in UConn, but you have to wonder about his consistency in a tougher NBA environment.
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Post#1332 » by Vdhawan8 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:09 pm

Dalek wrote:I know this board is going to be flooded with Kyle Anderson love, but I'd just like to say he seems like a poor fit here. I think he is very talented and unselfish, but the fact is he is a player that had possession after possession run through him. Coming to the Raptors he will have to play off the ball. Does this role fit his game? I don't think so. I think we really have to consider the fit when you have Lowry and Derozan and JV who deserve possessions and regularly have the offense go through them.

I think we need a guy like Ross who is a good shooter, energy defender that can play off the ball. Anderson just seems like a poor fit with the way we are composed.


I dont see much Anderson love to be honest. Its a just a very vocal minority who support Anderson. Majority of this board seems to be very against picking Anderson.
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Post#1333 » by Tortiglioni » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:14 pm

I thought TJ Warren was also supposed to be part of the workout today...
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Post#1334 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:23 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:What is the knock on Deandre Daniels? Seemed like a competent SF for the UConn team this season.


I think he's an NBA starter but the knock would be if he struggled for the same reason as Wes Johnson, by not driving to the rim and not being a consistent enough shooter. Still I like him to be better than that in both areas
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Post#1335 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:35 pm

Tortiglioni wrote:I thought TJ Warren was also supposed to be part of the workout today...


Yeah, I was looking forward to hearing about TJ. Checked his twitter and his last post was on June 3 2014 at Boston... maybe he got a promise? who knows.
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Post#1336 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:44 pm

My guess is we draft a PF or PG, and try to sign Chandler Parsons in free agency to be our SF.
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Post#1337 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:47 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:My guess is we draft a PF or PG, and try to sign Chandler Parsons in free agency to be our SF.


With what cap space? He's also a RFA
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Post#1338 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:52 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:My guess is we draft a PF or PG, and try to sign Chandler Parsons in free agency to be our SF.


With what cap space? He's also a RFA


Dang, how much do we have, with a re-signed Lowry?
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Post#1339 » by protothe » Thu Jun 5, 2014 6:58 pm

I see some of Mark Jackson's game to Anderson. Anderson is a lot bigger, but he could abuse people on the post up and then pass to the open man.
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Post#1340 » by mappiah19 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 7:13 pm

Kyle Anderson is like another DerMarr Johnson without his athleticism. Big point forward.

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