[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

[Tor_Raps]

Fans or GMs?

Everyone's waiting for news on KD and can care less about OG at the moment. I bet you if Masai calls back any team for OG right now, they'll tell him to wait until the KD situation becomes clearer.

If they didn't trade KD in the offseason, I have to wonder how or why they would in season. That just seems like its a bridge too far for this year for some reason to me.

Pretty much all players of Durants calibre have gone through similar circumstances when dealing with trade requests.

They make the trade request... teams try to make things work... Team either makes moves to appease the player to keep the player (like Kobe/Pierce) or final straw gets drawn and the trade is ultimately made (like Vince/Harden/AD/etc).

Now Durant is a true baller and has handled things on the court amazingly well but if he reiterates the trade request again, I bet the trade gets done extremely fast. They've already done the leg work to see what packages they can get for him. They'll ultimately pick one that makes sense for this team.

[HumbleRen]

The only argument here is longevity, otherwise, OG is a better scorer and defender than Bridges.

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OG is an elite 3 and D player. Why are we posting about his pull ups and isolations? Lol

The guy who's posting this is clearly not understanding why teams want him and you're better than this having watched him here for years.

He has a long enough sample size to show that he can hit the 3 at a very good clip and has shot over 40% before. That's playing on a clunky offensive system team. As a role player OG is a better player overall for a team that already has established offensive players. If they needed scoring from him in those type of scenarios they're looking at the wrong player.

Because we're talking about scoring buddy.

I know what OG provides to a team, you're talking to a guy who would rather see Masai trade Siakam and keep OG.

[TheRaptor!]

OG is an elite 3 and D player. Why are we posting about his pull ups and isolations? Lol

The guy who's posting this is clearly not understanding why teams want him and you're better than this having watched him here for years.

He has a long enough sample size to show that he can hit the 3 at a very good clip and has shot over 40% before. That's playing on a clunky offensive system team. As a role player OG is a better player overall for a team that already has established offensive players. If they needed scoring from him in those type of scenarios they're looking at the wrong player.

Sometimes a player is not necessarily bad defensively, they just conserve energy on the defensive end so they can score more.

In the clutch such "bad" or "mediocre" defenders can often try harder and pull their weight to at the very least be not a liability when defence is needed the most.

In addition, most of the teams that want OG already have a go-to scorer, alpha, number 1 option.

We do not have such iso scoring, plus OG Siakam and Barnes over lap way too much.

Nonethless, there is no point to defend OG, as he will not be a raptor much longer, our office clearly sees what us OG skeptics see.

[Harold_and_Kumar]

The more OG is involved in the offence, the less his high quality defense matters because he's starting to give away what he gained for you. If I'm another team, especially a good one, and I'm aware OG wants more time in iso, or p&r, etc., I think long and hard about trading for him.

All his value is in defense and three point shooting. The moment he starts to do more on offense, his value diminishes. And with his coordination + bull in a China shop issues, I can't see it improving much.

Everyone was upset at Fred for the book excerpt, but to me, the one who looks bad is OG. Totally unrealistic and worrisome understanding of his own abilities and role.

[WuTang_CMB]

O.G. Anunoby
The Raptors at least seem to be willing to listen to offers on Anunoby. And if the team does get serious about moving him before the deadline, he’ll become the most popular player on the market due to his age (25) and skill set. Anunoby is arguably the best defensive wing in the NBA right now and is capable of guarding the opposition’s best player one through five. He’s also a terrific help defender, forces a ton of deflections and turnovers and will thrive in playoff settings.

He also is developing into an offensive weapon, averaging 18 points per game on 47 percent from the field and 37 percent from 3, and has become far more comfortable attacking off the dribble and in ball screens. He still hasn’t hit his ceiling as a player, and teams would have him for two potential playoff runs before he becomes an unrestricted free agent. If the Raptors decide to entertain trades, the price tag should be relatively similar to what Jrue Holiday drew in 2020: two first-rounders and two pick swaps. He fits on every team in the NBA, but particularly fits best on teams that are one piece away given his defensive acumen and shooting. — Vecenie

https://theathletic.com/4145162/2023/02/02/nba-trade-big-board-anunoby-vanvleet/

[dgr81]

how many teams have 2 firsts and 2 swaps plus filler to trade is the question.

Celtics
Pels
Suns
Pacers
Knicks
Thunder

[TGM]

The thing for the Raptors is they prefer players that can come into their system and be developed over the next 12-18 months. If that is the case NO, Sacramento, Indiana and Portland are probably the best teams for such a trade.

Portland is definitely the team I would want to deal with:

OG, Boucher, Birch for Sharpe, Hart, Nurkic and a first.

We kill 5 stones in one trade:

1. Get our young prospect in Sharpe
2. Add depth with Hart and wouldn't be too hard resigning him a few million above MLE
3. We get a double double C in Nurkic who is on a reasonable contract
4. We get a pick
5. We dump two contracts.

I think Hart is going to fetch you a highly protected first and Nurkic hard to say how he is valued. If Portland is keen to play more of a faster line-up, than his value might be low due to fight. The Blazers have a weak front court to complement Nurkic, so defensively he is a bit more exposed as he isn't a super shot blocker. However, Raps have a stronger 3 and 4 with Barnes and Siakam, so could work better.

Fred- Flynn - Banton
Trent - Sharpe
Barnes - Hart
Siakim - Young
Nurkic - Precious - Koloko

Can still make a push for the playoffs. People would be surprised how some depth and balance to your line-up would do for this team. If Fred and Trent leave still in a good spot to rebuild with a decent core.

[Airmiess]

The more OG is involved in the offence, the less his high quality defense matters because he's starting to give away what he gained for you. If I'm another team, especially a good one, and I'm aware OG wants more time in iso, or p&r, etc., I think long and hard about trading for him.

All his value is in defense and three point shooting. The moment he starts to do more on offense, his value diminishes. And with his coordination + bull in a China shop issues, I can't see it improving much.

Everyone was upset at Fred for the book excerpt, but to me, the one who looks bad is OG. Totally unrealistic and worrisome understanding of his own abilities and role.

I’ll admit FVV was probably asking for the ball every time because of OGs lack of coordination at that stage of his career. He was like Bamby dribbling.

[TrustFundBaby]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

[Los_29]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

Really hope so. I don't understand why more teams don't try to do this. They instead choose to trade for a load of useless late round picks. Sure, some picks are nice to have but acquiring young players that can contribute and that they can develop right away is far more useful.

[Tortiglioni]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

[mtcan]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

A rebuild vs retool? Players vs picks...doesn't matter. They aren't big game hunting so taking back prospects instead of picks is still a rebuild.

[Brinbe]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

good. this is exactly what he should be doing. picks in 2027 do us no good now.

we need young guys now to develop alongside scottie/precious. that's our timeline.

[Tor_Raps]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

good. this is exactly what he should be doing. picks in 2027 do us no good now.

we need young guys now to develop alongside scottie/precious. that's our timeline.

Ayton fits that timeline at age 24 and positionally at Center

[Los_29]

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

good. this is exactly what he should be doing. picks in 2027 do us no good now.

we need young guys now to develop alongside scottie/precious. that's our timeline.

Ayton fits that timeline at age 24 and positionally at Center

Too bad he's been awful and makes a ton of money. lol.

[Brinbe]

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

good. this is exactly what he should be doing. picks in 2027 do us no good now.

we need young guys now to develop alongside scottie/precious. that's our timeline.

Ayton fits that timeline at age 24 and positionally at Center

Let's put it this way when talking about Ayton. Fred has 27 credited blocks this season. Ayton has 31...

[Los_29]

good. this is exactly what he should be doing. picks in 2027 do us no good now.

we need young guys now to develop alongside scottie/precious. that's our timeline.

Ayton fits that timeline at age 24 and positionally at Center

Let's put it this way when talking about Ayton. Fred has 27 credited blocks this season. Ayton has 31...

And it's not a good sign that the most reliable impact metrics according to NBA teams have Ayton as a negative player.

[WuTang_CMB]

Multiple league insiders told The Times-Picayune that the Raptors’ preference is to get back young players in any deal for Anunoby as opposed to picks. The Pelicans are armed with both of those things. Dyson Daniels, Jones and Naji Marshall are all homegrown talent on team-friendly deals. Plus, the Pelicans own the rights to all of their own first-round picks in the next five years in addition to the 2024 Los Angeles Lakers first that can be deferred until 2025 and a 2027 Milwaukee Bucks first.

https://www.nola.com/sports/pelicans/pelicans-insider-new-orleans-should-take-look-at-og-anunoby/article_cc0da024-a40f-11ed-a424-6bda72a6096d.html

Looks like MU is trying to retool if this report is true.

ya this came out before

It makes sense cuz we have Scottie. So to make a major OG trade who already fits Scottie's timeline, we need to get those players back. Trey would be perfect.

[Tor_Raps]

good. this is exactly what he should be doing. picks in 2027 do us no good now.

we need young guys now to develop alongside scottie/precious. that's our timeline.

Ayton fits that timeline at age 24 and positionally at Center

Let's put it this way when talking about Ayton. Fred has 27 credited blocks this season. Ayton has 31...

Ouch lol. I always thought he was a good defender on the perimeter (for a Center) but have not watched him enough to know about his rim defending skills.

At least he's great on the boards, which is an underrated component of defense and would help us immensely there since we suck at it.

[ItsDanger]

Ayton is a good rebounder, decent mobility, good feet, rolls well, solid 8-10 ft range on shot.
Not a shot blocker, how good are his hands around rim? Effort/intensity waves. From outside, him and CP3 don't mesh.

Not interested at his price tag.