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2023 Draft Discussion Part 4

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1321 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun May 14, 2023 5:14 pm

I might cry on air if I’m on the lotto representative for the team that gets the first pick
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1322 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun May 14, 2023 5:15 pm

I’m 90% sure Bilal is #1 on their draft board at 13 given the historical precedence of who we draft.

Hopeful we get another pick and get another guy too.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1323 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun May 14, 2023 5:20 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Sure bud. Hit on at least one prospect before you come at me. Your track record is abysmal.


Lol fried. Coming from you doesn’t mean much especially when you post nonsense. Create a poll i would love to see how many people would agree with your giannis comparison. Let me guess - none. Go back to bed.

I would assume the rest of the board doesn’t take comparing one aspect of a prospects game to their entire style of play. You on the other hand… I guess having a zero percent hit rate on your picks will do that to someone. Judging by your post count RealGM is your job so so better.


The rest of the board would realize how stupid that comparison was. You’re just burying yourself cuz you got called out and now you are spiralling. You’re a big zero when I actually called on Koloko last year.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1324 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun May 14, 2023 5:31 pm

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Lol fried. Coming from you doesn’t mean much especially when you post nonsense. Create a poll i would love to see how many people would agree with your giannis comparison. Let me guess - none. Go back to bed.

I would assume the rest of the board doesn’t take comparing one aspect of a prospects game to their entire style of play. You on the other hand… I guess having a zero percent hit rate on your picks will do that to someone. Judging by your post count RealGM is your job so so better.


The rest of the board would realize how stupid that comparison was. You’re just burying yourself cuz you got called out and now you are spiralling. You’re a big zero when I actually called on Koloko last year.

You called on a middling prospect? Would you like a gold star? I’m talking about hitting on players who actually play. You don’t understand comparing a specific aspect of a prospects game to another. It’s okay, we’re not all brain surgeons. I’m sure your full time job at RealGM is enough to support you.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1325 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun May 14, 2023 5:37 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:I would assume the rest of the board doesn’t take comparing one aspect of a prospects game to their entire style of play. You on the other hand… I guess having a zero percent hit rate on your picks will do that to someone. Judging by your post count RealGM is your job so so better.


The rest of the board would realize how stupid that comparison was. You’re just burying yourself cuz you got called out and now you are spiralling. You’re a big zero when I actually called on Koloko last year.

You called on a middling prospect? Would you like a gold star? I’m talking about hitting on players who actually play. You don’t understand comparing a specific aspect of a prospects game to another. It’s okay, we’re not all brain surgeons. I’m sure your full time job at RealGM is enough to support you.


Wouldn’t it be harder to call on middling prospects? That’s how inept you are. You’re still having difficulty understanding where the comparison went wrong for the 5th time lol so i’ll have to leave it there.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1326 » by DG88 » Sun May 14, 2023 5:41 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The rest of the board would realize how stupid that comparison was. You’re just burying yourself cuz you got called out and now you are spiralling. You’re a big zero when I actually called on Koloko last year.

You called on a middling prospect? Would you like a gold star? I’m talking about hitting on players who actually play. You don’t understand comparing a specific aspect of a prospects game to another. It’s okay, we’re not all brain surgeons. I’m sure your full time job at RealGM is enough to support you.


Wouldn’t it be harder to call on middling prospects? That’s how inept you are. You’re still having difficulty understanding where the comparison went wrong for the 5th time lol so i’ll have to leave it there.

Both of you stop derailing the thread. Agree to disagree and move on!
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1327 » by ItsDanger » Sun May 14, 2023 5:47 pm

Only OKC and Raps haven't announced their lottery representatives.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1328 » by Dalek » Sun May 14, 2023 5:48 pm

GG Jackson may not be the one Toronto needs, but to me he is still a lotto pick even with the bad shooting efficiency. More and more I am seeing how he was pushed into an outsized offensive role in college that I think will be different in the NBA.

To me his NBA role will be as a defender and frontcourt player. As a PF he can cut and take guys off the dribble to get to the rim, and stay away from the chucking. Check this interesting stat:

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Why he doesn't fit Toronto is with a Poeltl likely returning and Scottie on the floor the spacing would never work. But, I still see GG as a Pascal type forward in time - of course the upside is much higher because he can really create his shot.

What it could mean is GG eats up a lotto spot - and I think this a lot, either Cason Wallace or Anthony Black will be there for Toronto at 13.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1329 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun May 14, 2023 5:51 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Only OKC and Raps haven't announced their lottery representatives.


Still evaluating.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1330 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun May 14, 2023 7:10 pm

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The handle and the athleticism and dude is 18 :o
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1331 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun May 14, 2023 7:31 pm

This guy did a video on Sasser after his junior season which showcases more defensive stuff



On a few of his criticisms, Sasser showed improvement his senior season by upping his finishing percentages, increasing his 2ptfg% from .436 to .511 and increasing his ftR from .247 to .348
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1332 » by Psubs » Sun May 14, 2023 7:59 pm

Dalek wrote:
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I loved Terq last year as a second rounder but knew he would try to raise his stock with another year. To me, he is not too different to Bones Hyland who got traded once before his rookie deal was up.

Both are fired competitors who are not afraid to take shots or attack the rim despite being around 170 lbs. Terq plays so dangerously that I don't think his body will last. Also forget defense with Terq. No way he is even neutral in the NBA.


He;s added weight and strength since last season. Pick in the 20's sure. He's a guy I liked early in the season when the Raptors were looking like a 3-5 seed in the East.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1333 » by Psubs » Sun May 14, 2023 8:03 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Only OKC and Raps haven't announced their lottery representatives.


That's because it's SGA for both teams. :lol:
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1334 » by Psubs » Sun May 14, 2023 8:05 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I’m 90% sure Bilal is #1 on their draft board at 13 given the historical precedence of who we draft.

Hopeful we get another pick and get another guy too.


He's also #1 on OKC's board at #12. Should've tanked instead of making the play-in.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1335 » by Ell Curry » Sun May 14, 2023 8:08 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:This guy would be an ideal pick anywhere outside of the lottery for a winning team


He doesn't suit us, but some team with tons of shooting like Sacramento is going to take him and get a really useful player.

Like I said, an ideal pick for a winning team.


If we could get something like Siakam, a future unprotected first and #13 for Bridges, Harris and #21 done then it looks interesting to me:

Poeltl-Koloko-Achiuwa
Barnes-Achiuwa
OG-OPJ-Jackson
Bridges-Trent-Harris
VanVleet-MLE

Big payroll this year but then Harris expires and we save 20M a year on Bridges vs Siakam so the money is fine. I'd be excited to watch that team.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1336 » by Bruin » Sun May 14, 2023 9:28 pm

That’s an insane wingspan. Stands at 6’9” with a 7’6.25” wingspan

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1337 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun May 14, 2023 10:39 pm

Bruin wrote:That’s an insane wingspan. Stands at 6’9” with a 7’6.25” wingspan


He’s a specimen. Massive hands as well.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1338 » by tdotrep2 » Sun May 14, 2023 10:41 pm

im gonna lose my mind if i read posts about lane agility drills and vertical jumps lol, every year. Just watch the tape and its easy to see someone's athletic ability.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1339 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun May 14, 2023 11:13 pm

Bruin wrote:That’s an insane wingspan. Stands at 6’9” with a 7’6.25” wingspan



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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1340 » by ItsDanger » Mon May 15, 2023 12:13 am

Omoruyi is weak offensively, no shooting. Rim runs, dunks, put backs is his offense. I don't really see him as anything but a bench big maybe.
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