2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Mr Swagtastic]

I get it's only one finals game but Mathurin would fit this team extremely well. Has very good defensive instincts, is uber athletic and the timeline fits would have easily moved #9 for him as there were reports he'd fallen out of favor with Pacers coaching staff. I honestly don't see them moving him unless it's for a big fish.

Players I would stay away from if I am Toronto

Embiid (injury prone, lazy contract oh and injury prone)
MPJ (doesn't fit anywhere especially after the Ingram move)
Ayton (overpaid and at this point Poeltl is better)
Vooch (see above)
DeRozan (is he better than RJ?)
LaVine (contract plus horrible defender)
That's my list for now

Really liking the idea of Sabonis on this team gives a elite rebounder and three point shooter and elite passing from the C fits well with RJ and Barnes who would be better used as slashers.

Lamelo Ball is another if Charlotte is ready to blow it up. Doubt Quickley plus #9 is enough

No objections to either Sabonis or Melo.

If we get Sabonis we should still keep Poeltl.

So what or who are you giving up for Sabonis? I think #9 is in play. I don't think they want RJ (LaVine and DeRozan ) or Ingram (Murray). You'd probably have to include Poeltl going to team C with those assets going to Sacramento

[Psubs]

I get it's only one finals game but Mathurin would fit this team extremely well. Has very good defensive instincts, is uber athletic and the timeline fits would have easily moved #9 for him as there were reports he'd fallen out of favor with Pacers coaching staff. I honestly don't see them moving him unless it's for a big fish.

Players I would stay away from if I am Toronto

Embiid (injury prone, lazy contract oh and injury prone)
MPJ (doesn't fit anywhere especially after the Ingram move)
Ayton (overpaid and at this point Poeltl is better)
Vooch (see above)
DeRozan (is he better than RJ?)
LaVine (contract plus horrible defender)
That's my list for now

Really liking the idea of Sabonis on this team gives a elite rebounder and three point shooter and elite passing from the C fits well with RJ and Barnes who would be better used as slashers.

Lamelo Ball is another if Charlotte is ready to blow it up. Doubt Quickley plus #9 is enough

No objections to either Sabonis or Melo.

If we get Sabonis we should still keep Poeltl.

So what or who are you giving up for Sabonis? I think #9 is in play. I don't think they want RJ (LaVine and DeRozan ) or Ingram (Murray). You'd probably have to include Poeltl going to team C with those assets going to Sacramento

Poeltl, Dick and RJ for Sabonis. If that's too much, then pull out Dick.

[junot111]

I get it's only one finals game but Mathurin would fit this team extremely well. Has very good defensive instincts, is uber athletic and the timeline fits would have easily moved #9 for him as there were reports he'd fallen out of favor with Pacers coaching staff. I honestly don't see them moving him unless it's for a big fish.

Players I would stay away from if I am Toronto

Embiid (injury prone, lazy contract oh and injury prone)
MPJ (doesn't fit anywhere especially after the Ingram move)
Ayton (overpaid and at this point Poeltl is better)
Vooch (see above)
DeRozan (is he better than RJ?)
LaVine (contract plus horrible defender)
That's my list for now

Really liking the idea of Sabonis on this team gives a elite rebounder and three point shooter and elite passing from the C fits well with RJ and Barnes who would be better used as slashers.

Lamelo Ball is another if Charlotte is ready to blow it up. Doubt Quickley plus #9 is enough

No objections to either Sabonis or Melo.

If we get Sabonis we should still keep Poeltl.

So what or who are you giving up for Sabonis? I think #9 is in play. I don't think they want RJ (LaVine and DeRozan ) or Ingram (Murray). You'd probably have to include Poeltl going to team C with those assets going to Sacramento

Did you just refer to Sabonis as a three point shooter??

[Merit]

I get it's only one finals game but Mathurin would fit this team extremely well. Has very good defensive instincts, is uber athletic and the timeline fits would have easily moved #9 for him as there were reports he'd fallen out of favor with Pacers coaching staff. I honestly don't see them moving him unless it's for a big fish.

Players I would stay away from if I am Toronto

Embiid (injury prone, lazy contract oh and injury prone)
MPJ (doesn't fit anywhere especially after the Ingram move)
Ayton (overpaid and at this point Poeltl is better)
Vooch (see above)
DeRozan (is he better than RJ?)
LaVine (contract plus horrible defender)
That's my list for now

Really liking the idea of Sabonis on this team gives a elite rebounder and three point shooter and elite passing from the C fits well with RJ and Barnes who would be better used as slashers.

Lamelo Ball is another if Charlotte is ready to blow it up. Doubt Quickley plus #9 is enough

No objections to either Sabonis or Melo.

If we get Sabonis we should still keep Poeltl.

So what or who are you giving up for Sabonis? I think #9 is in play. I don't think they want RJ (LaVine and DeRozan ) or Ingram (Murray). You'd probably have to include Poeltl going to team C with those assets going to Sacramento

IQ + 9 would work at the draft.

I do this if I think Scottie can shoot. Otherwise, we have 3x non shooters in the starting lineup. Scottie/RJ/BI/Sabonis/Poeltl works because of ball movement and cutting but we’d be taking a massive hit defensively at the point of attack. Not sure a trade for Sabonis makes the most sense for the Raptors - and certainly not if getting Giannis is a possibility.

[Mr Swagtastic]

No objections to either Sabonis or Melo.

If we get Sabonis we should still keep Poeltl.

So what or who are you giving up for Sabonis? I think #9 is in play. I don't think they want RJ (LaVine and DeRozan ) or Ingram (Murray). You'd probably have to include Poeltl going to team C with those assets going to Sacramento

Did you just refer to Sabonis as a three point shooter??

Sorry meant to say he's capable of shooting 3's I wouldn't call him a great shooter but he's a guy who gives you at least spacing over Poeltl

[TGM]

I get it's only one finals game but Mathurin would fit this team extremely well. Has very good defensive instincts, is uber athletic and the timeline fits would have easily moved #9 for him as there were reports he'd fallen out of favor with Pacers coaching staff. I honestly don't see them moving him unless it's for a big fish.

Players I would stay away from if I am Toronto

Embiid (injury prone, lazy contract oh and injury prone)
MPJ (doesn't fit anywhere especially after the Ingram move)
Ayton (overpaid and at this point Poeltl is better)
Vooch (see above)
DeRozan (is he better than RJ?)
LaVine (contract plus horrible defender)
That's my list for now

Really liking the idea of Sabonis on this team gives a elite rebounder and three point shooter and elite passing from the C fits well with RJ and Barnes who would be better used as slashers.

Lamelo Ball is another if Charlotte is ready to blow it up. Doubt Quickley plus #9 is enough

I think it all depends on how much their team values that player. I agree Jakob is a better team player, but if you can get significant value for Jakob and get Ayton like a salary dump. That is good asset management. Presti and RC bigots built the Thunder and Spurs exactly by good asset management. Think of the reclamation projects they took in the Paul and Horford deals. Utah has done decent with Markannen, Collins and Sexton. These all went from negative value to positive. Ainge got pretty much 2-3 firsts by taking on those guys and will get like 4-5 firsts for them.

Ayton at 26 falls into a similar camp. RJ to me in many ways is the same.

[bboyskinnylegs]

could whatever it is we're offering in a KD trade package net us PG+#3 instead? Does Philly go for it? Yes, the PG contract is a risk, but if we end up with Ingram+Scottie+#3+#9, that gives us some interesting possibilities to build out our team, even moreso if we can rehab George's value.

[wegotthabeet]

could whatever it is we're offering in a KD trade package net us PG+#3 instead? Does Philly go for it? Yes, the PG contract is a risk, but if we end up with Ingram+Scottie+#3+#9, that gives us some interesting possibilities to build out our team, even moreso if we can rehab George's value.

Like with a potential KD deal, it would be to make the money work without including Pöltl.

Here are the possible player combinations.

IQ + Pöltl
IQ + Agbaji + Dick
IQ + RJ
RJ + Pöltl
RJ + Agbaji + Dick + minimum deal

So who are you trading and who are you targeting at 3?

I’d probably do RJ + Agbaji + Dick + min for PG and 3.

I’d hope to land Edgecombe and Maluach, but if he’s not there at 9 I’d take Bryant. Might take Bryant regardless and I don’t think I’d reach for Maluach at 3, but maybe the front office is that high on his potential.

Quickley - Shead
George - Edgecombe
Ingram - Walter
Barnes - Mogbo
Pöltl - Maluach

Some would take Bailey at 3, but I’m not sure I would.

[Merit]

could whatever it is we're offering in a KD trade package net us PG+#3 instead? Does Philly go for it? Yes, the PG contract is a risk, but if we end up with Ingram+Scottie+#3+#9, that gives us some interesting possibilities to build out our team, even moreso if we can rehab George's value.

Like with a potential KD deal, it would be to make the money work without including Pöltl.

Here are the possible player combinations.

IQ + Pöltl
IQ + Agbaji + Dick
IQ + RJ
RJ + Pöltl
RJ + Agbaji + Dick + minimum deal

So who are you trading and who are you targeting at 3?

I’d probably do RJ + Agbaji + Dick + min for PG and 3.

I’d hope to land Edgecombe and Maluach, but if he’s not there at 9 I’d take Bryant. Might take Bryant regardless and I don’t think I’d reach for Maluach at 3, but maybe the front office is that high on his potential.

Quickley - Shead
George - Edgecombe
Ingram - Walter
Barnes - Mogbo
Pöltl - Maluach

Some would take Bailey at 3, but I’m not sure I would.

I’d take that RJ/Ochai/Gradey/Minimum deal and run!

[CazOnReal]

Oh and Sabonis is quite possibly the worst f*cking choice to pair with Scottie. He cannot play without the ball in his hand and he's a horrendous defender. There's a reason why the Thunder and Pacers moved on from him - one far sooner than the other.

Hell, there's a reason why the Kings seem poised to move off of him.

[Mark_83]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

[Mr Swagtastic]

could whatever it is we're offering in a KD trade package net us PG+#3 instead? Does Philly go for it? Yes, the PG contract is a risk, but if we end up with Ingram+Scottie+#3+#9, that gives us some interesting possibilities to build out our team, even moreso if we can rehab George's value.

Hard to see Philly giving #3 plus PG to a divisional team. Yes taking on PG would suck especially if he continues on this trajectory of his career. Just to get salaries to work you would have to give RJ plus Poeltl and one of Gradey Dick, Walter or Ochai

[wegotthabeet]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

If Memphis decides to blow it up we should make a run at both Bane + JJJ.

RJ + Pöltl + Dick + 9th pick + 2 future unprotected picks for JJJ + Bane.

Quickley
Bane
Ingram
Barnes
Jackson Jr.

+ Agbaji, Shead, Walter, Mogbo, Battle, Chomche, 39th, MLE.

Not sure the offer is enough, but that’s a nice balanced team.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

If Memphis decides to blow it up we should make a run at both Bane + JJJ.

RJ + Pöltl + Dick + 9th pick + 2 future unprotected picks for JJJ + Bane.

Quickley
Bane
Ingram
Barnes
Jackson Jr.

+ Agbaji, Shead, Walter, Mogbo, Battle, Chomche, 39th, MLE.

Not sure the offer is enough, but that’s a nice balanced team.

Would do that if JJJ agreed to a extension. Hard to give up all that for Bane and a rental of JJJ, I think his max is 4/$150 after the whole missing all nba by 1 vote.

[Mark_83]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

If Memphis decides to blow it up we should make a run at both Bane + JJJ.

RJ + Pöltl + Dick + 9th pick + 2 future unprotected picks for JJJ + Bane.

Quickley
Bane
Ingram
Barnes
Jackson Jr.

+ Agbaji, Shead, Walter, Mogbo, Battle, Chomche, 39th, MLE.

Not sure the offer is enough, but that’s a nice balanced team.

I don't think there's any way you get JJJ without sending Barnes the other way.

[CazOnReal]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

If Memphis decides to blow it up we should make a run at both Bane + JJJ.

RJ + Pöltl + Dick + 9th pick + 2 future unprotected picks for JJJ + Bane.

Quickley
Bane
Ingram
Barnes
Jackson Jr.

+ Agbaji, Shead, Walter, Mogbo, Battle, Chomche, 39th, MLE.

Not sure the offer is enough, but that’s a nice balanced team.

I don't think there's any way you get JJJ without sending Barnes the other way.

Delusional.

[wegotthabeet]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

If Memphis decides to blow it up we should make a run at both Bane + JJJ.

RJ + Pöltl + Dick + 9th pick + 2 future unprotected picks for JJJ + Bane.

Quickley
Bane
Ingram
Barnes
Jackson Jr.

+ Agbaji, Shead, Walter, Mogbo, Battle, Chomche, 39th, MLE.

Not sure the offer is enough, but that’s a nice balanced team.

I don't think there's any way you get JJJ without sending Barnes the other way.

If he weren’t on an expiring contract I would agree, but he’s about to make nearly twice as much starting in 2026-27.

[wegotthabeet]

Not sure if he'd constitute a "big fish" but Darko loves Bane from his time with the Grizzlies. He could be a guy Masai would target but I don't really see why Memphis would trade him. Elite shooter, solid defender, and underrated playmaker that would fit better than RJ for spacing purposes.

RJ + Ochai/Dick/Walter for Bane + Huff works under the cap.

If Memphis decides to blow it up we should make a run at both Bane + JJJ.

RJ + Pöltl + Dick + 9th pick + 2 future unprotected picks for JJJ + Bane.

Quickley
Bane
Ingram
Barnes
Jackson Jr.

+ Agbaji, Shead, Walter, Mogbo, Battle, Chomche, 39th, MLE.

Not sure the offer is enough, but that’s a nice balanced team.

Would do that if JJJ agreed to a extension. Hard to give up all that for Bane and a rental of JJJ, I think his max is 4/$150 after the whole missing all nba by 1 vote.

That’s a great starting 5 either way.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Well the Memphis deal is officially doa. Bane is gone to Orlando for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 unprotected firsts and 1swap

[Landomar]

If we take a big swing, Sabonis is the guy I'd be going for. Poeltl, Barrett, and 9 is the deal that makes sense to me, although I'm not sure if Sacramento would be interested at all. I like Sabonis a lot more than some of the other "big fish" names because he has 3 years left on his deal, is still in his prime, and seems extremely underrated to me.

I also like that Sabonis is pretty much an ideal fit for a Darko offense. We like running a lot of actions through our center, and Sabonis is a great passer who can also make open threes from the top of the arc, while also being able to score on bully ball moves to the basket. He's led the league in rebounding for three years in a row, and I don't think people value rebounding nearly as much as they should these days. I also think the concerns over his defense are overblown. He's a much better defensive player than a Towns or Vucevic, as he is actually pretty good positionally and gives a good effort. I think having Scottie Barnes around as a help defender would complement him extremely well.