Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[AB_21]

Toronto definitely is going to need a clean up if bosh decides to leave, which now seems like the most likeliest option. I think Toronto should trade calderon/ turkoglu and S&T Chris bosh. Here are my ideas, if bosh decides to leave, tell me what you think.

1st Trade:

Toronto Trades:
Chris Bosh
Sonny Weems

New Orleans Trades:
Darren Collison
Marcus Thornton
2010 1st Round PIck (11Th Overall)

2nd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco belineli
future 2011 1st round pick

Portland Trades:
Greg Oden
Travis Outlaw

3rd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Jose Calderon

Los Angeles Lakers Trade:
2011 1st round pick

Review: First trade bosh goes somewhere where hes with an elite point guard, frontcourt of Bosh/okafor, along with stejakovic and posey, peterson.

Raptors get a point guard of there future, showed excellent strides of success replacing paul and backing him up, posting crazy numbers, Marcus thoronton had a great season and he looks promising, and with the New Orleans 11th pick we take Paul George, a athletic swing man who can hit the three and take it to the hoop.

Second Trade: We get turkoglu out of Toronto which he deserves, throw marco belineli to sweeten the deal, a former 6th overall pick, who can shoot the lights out. We give up a future 1st round pick. Portland nearly landed turkoglu and will love to have him helping their offense, and marco belineli as another swing.

Toronto gets Greg Oden who is frequently bothered by injuries but Toronto will have no problem taking the gamble, also an expiring contract in Travis Outlaw who we could possibly sign.

3rd Trade:

Toronto gives up calderon for cap relief and LA gets a pass first point guard which kobe wants and needs, also you pair up calderon with gasol, who have good chemistry together.

Toronto gets a future first round pick.

11th pick --> Paul George
13th pick --> Hassan Whiteside
Resign Wright, Johnson,
Sign Outlaw, David Lee

2010/2011 Raptor Roster:

Darren Collison/Jarret Jack
Demar Derozan/Marcus Thornton
Paul George/Travis Outlaw/ Antoine Wright
David Lee/Amir Johnson/Joey Dorsey
Andrea Bargnani/Greg Oden

Am I Dreaming??

Dreaming. Turk for Oden?

[JamesNaismith]

Darren Collison --> $1,266,120
Jarret jack --> $5,000,000
Marcus Banks --> $4,553,793
Demar Derozan --> $2,282,640
Marcus Thornton --> $4,57588
Paul George --> $2,282,640
Martel Webster --> $4,344,000
Antoine Wright --> 3,000,000
Reggie Evans --> $4,960,000
David Lee --> $ 9,000,000
Amir Johnson --> 4,950,000
Andrea Barganani --> 6,527,491
Greg Oden --> $5,361,240

Salary Cap 2010/2011 --> $64,283,376
Everything works and puts us just over the cap.

Except a little thing called reality.

[Raptors24seven]

Toronto definitely is going to need a clean up if bosh decides to leave, which now seems like the most likeliest option. I think Toronto should trade calderon/ turkoglu and S&T Chris bosh. Here are my ideas, if bosh decides to leave, tell me what you think.

1st Trade:

Toronto Trades:
Chris Bosh
Sonny Weems

New Orleans Trades:
Darren Collison
Marcus Thornton
2010 1st Round PIck (11Th Overall)

2nd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco belineli
future 2011 1st round pick

Portland Trades:
Greg Oden
Travis Outlaw

3rd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Jose Calderon

Los Angeles Lakers Trade:
2011 1st round pick

Review: First trade bosh goes somewhere where hes with an elite point guard, frontcourt of Bosh/okafor, along with stejakovic and posey, peterson.

Raptors get a point guard of there future, showed excellent strides of success replacing paul and backing him up, posting crazy numbers, Marcus thoronton had a great season and he looks promising, and with the New Orleans 11th pick we take Paul George, a athletic swing man who can hit the three and take it to the hoop.

Second Trade: We get turkoglu out of Toronto which he deserves, throw marco belineli to sweeten the deal, a former 6th overall pick, who can shoot the lights out. We give up a future 1st round pick. Portland nearly landed turkoglu and will love to have him helping their offense, and marco belineli as another swing.

Toronto gets Greg Oden who is frequently bothered by injuries but Toronto will have no problem taking the gamble, also an expiring contract in Travis Outlaw who we could possibly sign.

3rd Trade:

Toronto gives up calderon for cap relief and LA gets a pass first point guard which kobe wants and needs, also you pair up calderon with gasol, who have good chemistry together.

Toronto gets a future first round pick.

11th pick --> Paul George
13th pick --> Hassan Whiteside
Resign Wright, Johnson,
Sign Outlaw, David Lee

2010/2011 Raptor Roster:

Darren Collison/Jarret Jack
Demar Derozan/Marcus Thornton
Paul George/Travis Outlaw/ Antoine Wright
David Lee/Amir Johnson/Joey Dorsey
Andrea Bargnani/Greg Oden

Am I Dreaming??

Dreaming. Turk for Oden?

turk and a 1st for oden its not like portland really needs him any more, they have pryzballa, camby and aldridge.

[nahsuar]

Does Bosh to Houston make sense? Yes!

In this scenario, Houston would have to trade away Luis Scola. Scola is a free-agent, and would be almost certainly be unwilling to be a second option at the PF position if Bosh moves to the Rockets.

How do these two players compare?

In an attempt to normalize the conferences they play in, their averages against the top 10 teams (as per current NBA regular season) are presented below:

Scola Bosh
PTS 18.3 20.8
BLK 0.4 0.7
AST 2.6 2.0
STL 1.0 0.5
REB 10.3 10.6
DEF 8.2 7.6
OFF 2.2 3.0
TO 2.5 2.5

While Scola is slightly lower in PPG, their production is quite level across most other stats - especially, ones that are critical to the PF position.

It can also be assumed that Toronto will almost certainly ask for additional pieces in this trade - eg. Houston assumes Turkoglu, Shane Battier, Jordan Hill, picks? In any of theses scenarios, Toronto comes out on top as the performance differencial is overcome.

Further, from a style of play perspective, Scola is a back-to-the-basket player. This should free up additional space for the wing players in Toronto, and improve their performance. Further, Scola provides a certain degree of interior toughness that the Raptors need.

In light of the above, Toronto should be aggresive in pursuing this opportunity.

[tidho]

Cleveland: Bosh, Calderon
Toronto:Mo Williams, JJ Hickson, Jamison, Rudy Fernandez
Portland:Delonte West, Hedo

Is trading Turk a requirement in a Bosh S&T?

Along the same lines as the trade above here's my swing at Bosh...
Bosh, Calderon, Evans, Banks...for...Mo, Jamison, West, Hickson, Powe

Toronto gives $36.7M in salary to receive $29.7M - right at the 20% rule.
Waiving Delonte increases their savings to about $11M.

From a production standpoint...
Mo for Calderon is already being discussed so I'm calling that about even.
Evans and Powe are the same guy.
Banks is a waste.

That boils this trade down to...
Bosh...for...Jamison, Hickson, and $11M.
Not bad value if Bosh (if he's set on leaving) should decide that Cleveland is a destination of choice.

What do you guys think? Is it even close?

[kwamebargnani]

turk and a 1st for oden its not like portland really needs him any more, they have pryzballa, camby and aldridge.

Get real.

[RapsGM]

Best thing to do would be to tell Bosh to hold off and see which team misses out on the Lebron, Wade, Amare, and Boozer sweepstakes and then try and package him with Hedo and Caldy.

[Ducksplatt]

Nice and Easy

Bosh to New Jersey for #3 (Favors) plus TE (heck, they can throw in Yi if they want).

Why for NJ
The new owner wants to win. Favors is going to need time to develop (still young). Bosh is further ahead. Maybe it will convince LBJ, Wade or Johnson to join him:
Lopez,, Bosh, Harris are some good pieces.

Why for Tor
Go into rebuilding mode with Favors (same measurement as Dwight when he came out of college). Make him your C of the future, Bargs, DD and Weems are a nice young core.
Possibly package up the TE to get another low draft pick but take on a bad contract. Or use the TE to dump Hedo or Caldy.

[RichardsRival3]

I was thinking the BC might be warming up to Deng now that Turkyglue won't be back with the team. I am not sure but, I thought I read somewhere that BC was a big fan of Deng.

Deng would fit really well next to Bargs. He can defend and is good rebounder.

What do you guys think?

[CRACKSMATIC]

Does Bosh to Houston make sense? Yes!

In this scenario, Houston would have to trade away Luis Scola. Scola is a free-agent, and would be almost certainly be unwilling to be a second option at the PF position if Bosh moves to the Rockets.

How do these two players compare?

In an attempt to normalize the conferences they play in, their averages against the top 10 teams (as per current NBA regular season) are presented below:

Scola Bosh
PTS 18.3 20.8
BLK 0.4 0.7
AST 2.6 2.0
STL 1.0 0.5
REB 10.3 10.6
DEF 8.2 7.6
OFF 2.2 3.0
TO 2.5 2.5

While Scola is slightly lower in PPG, their production is quite level across most other stats - especially, ones that are critical to the PF position.

It can also be assumed that Toronto will almost certainly ask for additional pieces in this trade - eg. Houston assumes Turkoglu, Shane Battier, Jordan Hill, picks? In any of theses scenarios, Toronto comes out on top as the performance differencial is overcome.

Further, from a style of play perspective, Scola is a back-to-the-basket player. This should free up additional space for the wing players in Toronto, and improve their performance. Further, Scola provides a certain degree of interior toughness that the Raptors need.

In light of the above, Toronto should be aggresive in pursuing this opportunity.

Houston has the most assets to offer toronto by far imo, but its all about what Bosh wants and for some reason Houston wasn't on his list of preferred teams

lets hope he changes his mind

[WhatsaTDot]

turk and a 1st for oden its not like portland really needs him any more, they have pryzballa, camby and aldridge.

Youre justification for them taking a pile of dog **** is that they dont NEED Oden anymore? Not getting the most they could, but that they dont NEED him anymore? Are you for real?

[crzycnk62]

Send him to NJ for brooks Lopez and a large TE?

I know I would gives us a young centre who has lots more potential and we have a large TE to still use...gives NJ a star to tempt lebron to join NJ and they still have their #3 pick which they could package for a centre or just draft favors

thoughts?

[TheMagician]

3rd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Jose Calderon

Los Angeles Lakers Trade:
2011 1st round pick

Am I missing something here, but with LA being over the cap they would to send Toronto matching salaries according to the CBA.

[Mascot]

2nd Trade

Toronto Trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco belineli
future 2011 1st round pick

Portland Trades:
Greg Oden
Travis Outlaw

I think people are missing the hedo for oden part of the deal thats just hilarious.

[dennis00]

Toronto Raptors trade:
Bosh signed to max contract

New York Knicks trade:
Adam Curry

(Also, Hedo for Oden is crazy)

[bboyskinnylegs]

Toronto Raptors trade:
Bosh signed to max contract

New York Knicks trade:
Adam Curry

(Also, Hedo for Oden is crazy)

Who's Adam Curry?

[dennis00]

Eddy is short for Adam? http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... yed01.html

[Jakay]

Here's my sign and trade idea:

Sign Chris Bosh and trade him for no one.

It's a pipedream, sure, but he's a Raptor until he signs elsewhere, even if, technically, he's not a Raptor right now.

[dennis00]

Yes, tell him to do a sign and trade with the Miami Heat. Sign him and then back out just before finishing the trade. If that's illegal, we will have to give Hedo plastic surgery to make him look like Bosh and Bosh the other way around, and send new Bosh to the Heat. Trust me, it will work. Their Bosh will be a choker, while we have an amazing Hedo, who does not suck a LOT.

[ontnut]

What about some sort of 3 way with Sac and LAL?
Lakers trade: Artest, Bynum, 1st, Lakers receive: Bosh, Jose, Tor 2nd.
Sac trade: Landry, Nocioni, 1st, salary filler (Garcia?), Sac receives: Turkoglu, Bynum, Lal 1st.
Tor trade: Bosh, Turkoglu, Jose, 2nd, Tor receives: Artest, Landry, Nocioni, Garcia, Sac 1st.

I know salaries don't work out esp for LAL, but it seems ok - of course there are value balancing kinks to work out, the differences can be bridged by the use of picks and small salary fillers I believe.

Lakers ship out injury prone Bynum (who they may win the ship without anyways), and aging Artest for Bosh and a capable backup for an aging Fisher in Calderon, Bosh is happy, LAL is happy (known commodity in primes to play with Kobe, potential 2 more ships with Jose/Kobe/Odom/Bosh/Gasol). Calderon would work out pretty nice on that team imo as well, Fisher for D, Calderon for O.

Sac gives Nocioni his trade, don't have to pay for a new Landry contract next year and get rid of more crappy salary in Garcia while only giving up one pick next year, while receiving back the young defensive big they need in Bynum, and a facilitator in Turk to take pressure of Evans. Seems like a good deal for Sac, since it's basically an expiring Landry and a future pick for Bynum plus a simple swap of Turk/Noc all while getting rid of Garcia's contract as well, makes them players for 2011 FA.

Tor gets something back for Bosh in the form of a high Sac 1st pick, Artest and a post player in Landry, while sort of piggybacking Turk's contract to get Nocioni and Garcia. Turk's happy, Bosh is happy, Tor gets some younger assets and grabs a nice 1st round pick, while getting some grit. I don't think we'd have a problem getting Noc/Garcia/Landry to play in Toronto, Artest might be an issue, but we could package him with say Banks/Reggie to acquire another piece down the road.

As I said, details need to be worked out, but this seems like a fairly amicable situation for all three teams, getting rid of something they don't need/can't afford to keep and getting something with value in return that helps them in the immediate and future. Sac might be getting the worst of this deal having to give up a high pick and a young star in Landry, but Bynum would work nice with Tyreke and gives them a young pair to develop together (Bynum better than Landry for that team imo). And maybe some rebounding/blocking rubs off on Hawes, while getting the hometown guy Turk back, who will probably return to near all-star form.


JJ / Banks / Belinelli
DD / Weems / Garcia
Artest/ Nocioni / LAL pick
Bargnani / Amir / Reggie
Landry / Raps pick
Future sac 1st pick to bolster SG/C position.

Artest/Reggie for Lou/Thad?

Though less talent than before, at least we get a bit younger, get out from Turk/Jose's contracts without giving up a 1st pick and gain grit/d/rebounding in Artest/Noc/Landry. Team is pretty small though so would have to draft some project bigs. And of course as a Raps fan it's probably really ideal for Tor and maybe less ideal for the other two teams, but hey - it's my trade proposal!