BigBoss23 wrote:Yosemite Dan wrote:YogiStewart wrote:"imagine that", you say, about the flu being down. is it because we're mostly isolating and most of us (likely not you) are not having people in our homes? and we're wearing masks? huh.
your hospital numbers are wrong. figure out how many hospitals are in the GTA. do the math based on positivity testing rates here.
small cities/towns have fewer hospitals. if/when they get hit, it's easier for them to be overwhelmed.
ICUs see non-covid patients as well, so you're assuming no one but COVID patients are in ICU.
the reason we're locking down is because our ICUs are already close to capacity and surgeries are being cancelled. that's not fearmongering - those are facts.
so if we kept the lockdown at current status, it means the spread rate will overwhelm our hospital system. plain and simple.
also incorrect with your numbers: the current ratio of infected:hospitalization is lower than half a year ago because the age is currently skewed to younger people. once the inevitable spread from younger people (you know, the ones that work at grocery stores, or nursing homes) to older people, things will be dire.
So no flu cases because we’re isolating and wearing masks yet covid cases are skyrocketing with the same restrictions. And I’ll guess your next point. Your next point it’s because people are having parties yet those same parties aren’t causing flu#s to spike where younger people do not get flu shots. Your kindergarten logic makes no sense. You can’t have it both ways although I’m sure CNN would approve of it.
ICU units see flu cases as well every winter and since the flu has disappeared with your kindergarten logic that leaves that much more space to attend to ICU covid patients. And yes you can transfer many ICU patients out of smaller hospitals if need be. Toronto General gets the worst Covid Cases and they are continually getting transferred patients from other hospitals. My niece works in the respiratory unit there and in the last 8 months they have never had more than 50% capacity for the worst of the worst and normally at 25% capacity throughout this ordeal.
Italy did that in March when transferring patents out of the harder hit north to southern hospitals and they were not being left to die due to being overwhelmed. Which was confirmed by the Italian health minister in response to a fabricated story by CNN and other networks with zero evidence. Of course CNN didn’t show that press conference like most other MSM. Much like that field morgue picture CNN showed claiming covid patients were being sent there to be buried because they ran out of ground to bury people apparently when it turned out it was a 7 year old picture and it was an area where homeless people are buried.
In 2018 there were 8500 flu related deaths in Canada. My mother in her 70s broke her leg back then and needed to be hospitalized during that flu season and had to lie on a gurney for almost 2 days before getting a room because the hospital (and a major hospital) was over capacity. Almost every year hospitals are over capacity during the winter. It’s only the media that make it sound like it’s the worst thing ever when it happens every year. They conveniently ignore that context.
And overall deaths in Canada in 2020? On the same plane as it’s been for the last decade. A gradual rise year to year but only because the baby boomers are getting older representing a larger portion of the population and the overall death rate is expected to rise incrementally for the next decade. The same rate as in the US where apparently they’ve been ravaged with covid. And before you say that people are staying in thier homes so less risk of dying from different circumstances, that is more than offset by the dramatic rise in suicides and opioid deaths primarily due to these ridiculous lockdowns that target the wrong demographic.
You can spew on with your fear mongering and sky is falling scenarios. I’m just gonna reply with facts and statistics and you’re gonna lose every single time. Sorry
Yep, when I heard how the flu is “down” thats when you know its a crock of bull. If the same measures are apparently not enough for covid how could the flu with similar symptoms suddently coincidentally hit an all time low?
And it’s just not Canada. Various other areas like Australia where thier winter is our summer, had record low flu cases. And there is zero evidence that Covid is any more contagious than the seasonal flu.
