2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Spida888]

Next time we scout for prospects, I guess we gotta scout their parents too lol.

Sigh, I know we can't hit all our picks but damn how much better would we be with Bane instead of Flynn .

[goinrogue]

I mean It wouldn’t really surprise me if Malachi played pretty well on a rebuilding team. It’s got to be pretty hard on his confidence. But there’s a reason Justin has broken the rotation. Nick has a pretty strict criteria on what gets you playing time.

I’m not mad at Malachi’s dad. He’s just being a protective father. But we have to find Malachi a new home right away.

[Rapsfan07]

Siakam is obviously playing great but if we are confident that Scottie Barnes is the real deal (I think he is), trading Siakam from a position of strength for some young talent and a bench makes some sense.

Siakam + Dragic for Haliburton + Barnes + Hield + 2022 top-3 protected 1st

FVV/GTJ/OG/Barnes/Birch
Haliburton/Hield/Barnes/Boucher/Achiuwa

Raps can move their 1st now for a starting C too.

Haliburton is great and then there is the chance the pick ends up being 4th overall which could net someone like Ivey, Sharpe or Banchero. This would be awesome but I can't see the Kings doing something like this. I bet Masai would be all over this though if we keep losing a couple more games.

Looking at how Garland and Simons have flourished with more PT, I think Haliburton is the #1 player they keep, Fox and Barnes look like they could be sold.

Totally off-topic - Simons was primed to break out for a while. He's really, really good and I'm glad he's had the chance to show out.

[VanWest82]

Dragic + 2022 2nd + David Johnson for Lamb + Justin Holiday.

This gets us well under the tax and gives us a couple more live bodies off the bench for a playoff run. Lamb is expiring (10M) so we can let him walk and still have room to re-sign Boucher and/or use MLE. Holiday helps fill our gaping hole of 3+D volume off ball shooter and he's under contract next year for a very reasonable 6M. Pacers walk away with a couple of lower end rebuilding pieces.

[NotMyKawhi]

Dejounte Murray is averaging 20 points, 9 rebs, 9 assits and 2 steals a game w great d.

on a great contract too. If he can get his 3% close to 40 that's an all nba player imo

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Dejounte Murray is averaging 20 points, 9 rebs, 9 assits and 2 steals a game w great d.

on a great contract too. If he can get his 3% close to 40 that's an all nba player imo

with terrible shooting %s. like his TS% is garbage - one of the worst in the league.

[NotMyKawhi]

Dejounte Murray is averaging 20 points, 9 rebs, 9 assits and 2 steals a game w great d.

on a great contract too. If he can get his 3% close to 40 that's an all nba player imo

with terrible shooting %s. like his TS% is garbage - one of the worst in the league.

still, the triple double guys are usually offensive players like harden, westbrook, luka. He's a rare bread.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Dejounte Murray is averaging 20 points, 9 rebs, 9 assits and 2 steals a game w great d.

on a great contract too. If he can get his 3% close to 40 that's an all nba player imo

with terrible shooting %s. like his TS% is garbage - one of the worst in the league.

still, the triple double guys are usually offensive players like harden, westbrook, luka. He's a rare bread.

as much as i agree to disagree, why would the Spurs trade him - it makes 0 sense. you said it yourself - he's on a great contract - he's also young. and he plays the same position as FVV. and if his USG% is any indication, he needs the ball in his hands to be successful - which means his numbers are inflated and would take a hit if he came to a team like the Raptors, who also have guys who have high USG% like FVV and Siakam. and we are struggling to give Barnes that USG% and touches he requires as a rookie already.

[NotMyKawhi]

That 2027 first is clearly the most valuable trade asset that the Lakers currently possess. The Lakers have tried, with no luck yet, to package that pick with Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn in an attempt to acquire Jerami Grant from Detroit.

[Bruin]

Lakers reek of desperation lol

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[Rapsfan07]

I wanna rip off the kings too.

We need another PG imo flynn, banton, dragic isn't it. I want Mitchell, Hali or even fox

i'd also like Holmes and bagley if you can get him for nothing

Siakam is obviously playing great but if we are confident that Scottie Barnes is the real deal (I think he is), trading Siakam from a position of strength for some young talent and a bench makes some sense.

Siakam + Dragic for Haliburton + Barnes + Hield + 2022 top-3 protected 1st

FVV/GTJ/OG/Barnes/Birch
Haliburton/Hield/Barnes/Boucher/Achiuwa

Raps can move their 1st now for a starting C too.

Haliburton is great and then there is the chance the pick ends up being 4th overall which could net someone like Ivey, Sharpe or Banchero. This would be awesome but I can't see the Kings doing something like this. I bet Masai would be all over this though if we keep losing a couple more games.

Yeah, I agree its a little light for the Kings.

I"d see if the Kings would do OG + Trent + Dragic for Barnes + Hield + Haliburton.

At first glace, this feels light for the Kings but then again, Trent and OG are solid young players on good deals. Guess it depends on what they think of Hali.

[Ell Curry]

Bogdan Bogdanovic appears to be available. Having a down year but he's a really nice fit as a big guard who can play with Van Vleet or as the main creator.

He averaged 25.2 points, 5.0 assists and 4.5 rebounds in 6 games without Trae Young last year!

They have Charlotte's pick (Reddish deal) and Charlotte are now 2.5 games up on us so maybe a Dragic deal and pick swap can be worked out that gives them protection if there is no swap or it's only moving them up 2-3 spots (like us instead giving them our 2023 1st rounder lotto protected and they give us #40 this year and another 2nd down the road).

Or maybe they like Flynn as a cheap backup to Trae or someone else does enough to send them an asset. Would also happily take a terrible deal for Birch (Pacers fans keep getting mad at me but I think TJ McConnell is one). Ideally someone wants Dragic to save a little 2022 money like the Clippers with Bledsoe's 3.9M guarantee and we could do a 3 way with the Clippers adding an asset to our small one to Atlanta.

VanVleet-Trent-OG-Barnes-Siakam
Bogdanovic-Boucher-Achiuwa

looks really promising to me.

[mdenny]

Bogdan Bogdanovic appears to be available. Having a down year but he's a really nice fit as a big guard who can play with Van Vleet or as the main creator.

He averaged 25.2 points, 5.0 assists and 4.5 rebounds in 6 games without Trae Young last year!

They have Charlotte's pick (Reddish deal) and Charlotte are now 2.5 games up on us so maybe a Dragic deal and pick swap can be worked out that gives them protection if there is no swap or it's only moving them up 2-3 spots (like us instead giving them our 2023 1st rounder lotto protected and they give us #40 this year and another 2nd down the road).

Or maybe they like Flynn as a cheap backup to Trae or someone else does enough to send them an asset. Would also happily take a terrible deal for Birch (Pacers fans keep getting mad at me but I think TJ McConnell is one). Ideally someone wants Dragic to save a little 2022 money like the Clippers with Bledsoe's 3.9M guarantee and we could do a 3 way with the Clippers adding an asset to our small one to Atlanta.

VanVleet-Trent-OG-Barnes-Siakam
Bogdanovic-Boucher-Achiuwa

looks really promising to me.

I wonder if Bogs' player option in 2025 makes this a non-starter? That's the year we'd have to resign Fred and Trent. On the other hand....all 3 should be tradeable next deadline anyways.

To be honest...if this option is realistic then it's probably the promising one out there imo. I think he suits our team more than Atlanta too. Maybe it's just a coincidence ....but it seems like he makes little intangible plays during crunch time every time I watch him. Don't watch him alot though.

[Lord_Zedd]

Lakers reek of desperation lol

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Imagine not making a trade for Lowry last year because of Talen Horton-Tucker was too much. Only to end up with Westbrook and being declined on a trade forJerami Grant

[Ell Curry]

Bogdan Bogdanovic appears to be available. Having a down year but he's a really nice fit as a big guard who can play with Van Vleet or as the main creator.

He averaged 25.2 points, 5.0 assists and 4.5 rebounds in 6 games without Trae Young last year!

They have Charlotte's pick (Reddish deal) and Charlotte are now 2.5 games up on us so maybe a Dragic deal and pick swap can be worked out that gives them protection if there is no swap or it's only moving them up 2-3 spots (like us instead giving them our 2023 1st rounder lotto protected and they give us #40 this year and another 2nd down the road).

Or maybe they like Flynn as a cheap backup to Trae or someone else does enough to send them an asset. Would also happily take a terrible deal for Birch (Pacers fans keep getting mad at me but I think TJ McConnell is one). Ideally someone wants Dragic to save a little 2022 money like the Clippers with Bledsoe's 3.9M guarantee and we could do a 3 way with the Clippers adding an asset to our small one to Atlanta.

VanVleet-Trent-OG-Barnes-Siakam
Bogdanovic-Boucher-Achiuwa

looks really promising to me.

I wonder if Bogs' player option in 2025 makes this a non-starter? That's the year we'd have to resign Fred and Trent. On the other hand....all 3 should be tradeable next deadline anyways.

To be honest...if this option is realistic then it's probably the promising one out there imo. I think he suits our team more than Atlanta too. Maybe it's just a coincidence ....but it seems like he makes little intangible plays during crunch time every time I watch him. Don't watch him alot though.

His option is for 23-24 I think?

I think he's neutered by Trae's ball dominance and he'd do well with our share the load stuff on offense. He's 29, though, so he seems like a guy you don't want to give up a first for but he's too good for just 2nds and Flynn and Dragic's contract.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Lakers reek of desperation lol

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Imagine not making a trade for Lowry last year because of Talen Horton-Tucker was too much. Only to end up with Westbrook and being declined on a trade forJerami Grant

if i was detroit i would take that trade. that 1st round pick is going to be valuable - based on the current ages of the Lakers stars today and inevitable rebuild in 4-5 years. Detroit should be contending by then with a 1st round pick coming their way.

[Ell Curry]

if i was detroit i would take that trade. that 1st round pick is going to be valuable - based on the current ages of the Lakers stars today and inevitable rebuild in 4-5 years. Detroit should be contending by then with a 1st round pick coming their way.

Lakers probably demanding protections on the pick and it's not the best offer for Grant unless they love THT, with so many teams interested in Grant.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

if i was detroit i would take that trade. that 1st round pick is going to be valuable - based on the current ages of the Lakers stars today and inevitable rebuild in 4-5 years. Detroit should be contending by then with a 1st round pick coming their way.

Lakers probably demanding protections on the pick and it's not the best offer for Grant unless they love THT, with so many teams interested in Grant.

it should be unprotected.

[LoveMyRaps]

Mavericks are in no position to contend with their current roster. However this trade makes them a better team with Dragic + Watanabe coming in (both on expiring deals), and Bullock the only real rotational piece (not much of a player, he sucks) going out. The main reason the Mavs do this trade however is that this deal alone allows them to free up about 18mil in cap space. They can sign an impactful player over the summer to add to their solid core of Luka/Brunson/THJ/Porzingis. Then the Mavs can be a real playoff threat starting next season.
The Mavs also receive a 2nd round pick for parting ways with a couple decent prospects.

Pacers do this deal because they're getting a pretty nice haul for LeVert. A first round pick + two B level prospects. They also add Boucher and Bullock, both on team friendly deals, that they can flip elsewhere (to contenders) for picks (most likely second round picks).

Raptors part ways with two guys out of the rotation (Dragic and Yuta), Boucher (expiring) and a first round pick (lottery protected) and in return they get Caris LeVert (combo guard that can fits the bill perfectly - ball handler, great shooter, great playmaker) and also Burke who can be what we wanted Flynn to be this year.

Thoughts?

[Dude-niagara]

Siakam is obviously playing great but if we are confident that Scottie Barnes is the real deal (I think he is), trading Siakam from a position of strength for some young talent and a bench makes some sense.

Siakam + Dragic for Haliburton + Barnes + Hield + 2022 top-3 protected 1st

FVV/GTJ/OG/Barnes/Birch
Haliburton/Hield/Barnes/Boucher/Achiuwa

Raps can move their 1st now for a starting C too.

Haliburton is great and then there is the chance the pick ends up being 4th overall which could net someone like Ivey, Sharpe or Banchero. This would be awesome but I can't see the Kings doing something like this. I bet Masai would be all over this though if we keep losing a couple more games.

Yeah, I agree its a little light for the Kings.

I"d see if the Kings would do OG + Trent + Dragic for Barnes + Hield + Haliburton.

At first glace, this feels light for the Kings but then again, Trent and OG are solid young players on good deals. Guess it depends on what they think of Hali.

Siakam + Dragic for Haliburton + Barnes + Hield + 2022 top-3 protected 1s- I would do this deal if the Kings make it unprotected in 2022 and then top 5 protected first in 2024 along with (2) second rounders. As you said, it very obvious Siakam is playing at a high level and if management does not see the two being able to coexist then you cash Siakam out when his value his high. For some reason fans only want to trade Siakam when he is crapping bed and that makes no sense for return value. I still think they would need to add another contract to make it work, perhaps Holmes