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Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3

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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1381 » by JamesNaismith » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:54 am

McFurious1 wrote:What if Jimmer Fredette turns out to be the next Steve Nash?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqX_b_Bu4hI[/youtube]


LMFAO!

Chuck Norris has a Jimmer poster on his wall -- that line slayed me!



But no still do not want....and his game is nowhere near Nash's.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1382 » by Kevin Willis » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:19 am

But - Jimmer will end up being the steal of the draft. He's Stephan Curry with just as good handles and maybe more athletic. He can break ankles, very cool.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1383 » by fredericklove » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:06 am

JamesNaismith wrote:
McFurious1 wrote:What if Jimmer Fredette turns out to be the next Steve Nash?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqX_b_Bu4hI[/youtube]


LMFAO!

Chuck Norris has a Jimmer poster on his wall -- that line slayed me!



But no still do not want....and his game is nowhere near Nash's.


Lol!!!! Yeah agree, whoever says his game is near Nash's is .................UGH.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1384 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:06 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:for me right now:
-----Tier 1: :pray: --------------------------------------------------------
Kyrie :love:
-----Tier 2: pretty happy with any of these guys----------------------------
Valanciunas
Jones III
Kanter
Barnes
-----Tier 3: hope we draft earlier, strongly considering trading the pick here-----
Sullinger
T. Jones
Williams
Walker
Vesely
Knight


I think we're all hoping for Irving at this point.

Just a question though. Why do you consider trading the pick when Sullinger and Williams are still on the board? You'd be happier with Kanter over Sullinger or Valanciunas over WIlliams? I guess what I'm wondering is why are people so against drafting Sullinger? It looks like he's kinda undersized for the PF position, lateral speed is mediocre and according to DraftExpress, isn't the greatest defender. Also, he has high bust potential...but then again so does everyone else in this draft (beside Irving). Other than all of that, he looks like a Kevin Love type that can defend a bit better if he pans out.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1385 » by Wo1verine » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:45 am

People who want Kanter or JV over Sullinger are being Silly..
If Sullinger is on board, we take him, and move Davis, Johnson or Bargnani! No need to waste a lotto pick on two players who'll likely become nothing but role players in the NBA. (and that's being optimistic)

The Organization shouldn't shy away from arguably the second best player in this years draft just because we have plenty of PF's :roll:
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Post#1386 » by Landomar » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:55 am

Sullinger looks like a definate top 3 pick to me. He looks likely to be at least a David West type impact player in the NBA, and has the potential to be a perennial allstar. If he's available, we should probably take him and sort things out later.

The only two guys I might prefer over Sullinger are Irving or Valanciunas. I'm not as high on Irving as the board in general seems to me, but I think his career will probably be at least as good or better than Andre Miller's, which would land him solidly in the top 10 PG range (even if he never becomes a Rose, Nash, or Paul level guy). For Valanciunas, I'm leading the band wagon. All the video, statistics, and scouting reports I've seen for him suggest to me that he has some very special tools. He already seems to be an elite rebounder, and that should translate well to the NBA. His length and athleticism give him a great defensive foundation, although he'll definately need to add a lot of strength. On offense, his touch around the basket is impressive, and he's a very good FT shooter. Right now, he's kind of like Ed Davis as a scorer, but I believe Jonas can develop some quality go-to moves and a mid-range jump shot. I have visions right now of Valanciunas even becoming the next great big man out of Europe (up near the Nowitzki / P.Gasol range in terms of overall impact), even though that's just a hunch, and he'd need to improve a lot in the next few years to become that kind of player.

The safest order would probably be Irving, Sullinger, Valanciunas, but I would consider any of those guys as high as #1, even though Valanciunas at #1 would be a pretty big gamble (and one that I imagine most Raptors fans would revolt over).

After those 3, I'm not really sold on anyone, but I probably would have D.Williams at #4. The other guys I would consider drafting with our pick, in a tentative order, would be Kanter, Barnes, P.Jones, Vesely, T.Jones.
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Post#1387 » by blacknred » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:02 pm

Nobody is talking about this kid now because he got injured but he is still a lottery pick. Since Irving is going to the Cavs we should seriously take a look at this guy, nobody else in this draft is all that impressive. He is a legit center, and he would be a nice fit next to Andrea since he has a nice post game and, and is also a great rebounder. I rather take a risk on him risk and move AB to his natural position at PF since we have all seen what a fail he is at the 5.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YzbhAQGPqk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk66SyQzTJo&feature=related&t=0m30s[/youtube]

Easily the most impressive player on the World Select Team, Kanter had strong showings in practice and exploded for 34 points at 13 rebounds during the game. Carrying the Internationals back from a 10-point deficit to build a commanding lead in the third quarter, Kanter single-handedly repositioned his team to win the game. The Kentucky commit sparked a lot of positive buzz with his showing, and only reinforced many of the positive qualities we saw from him in junior play.

Measuring in at 6’10 with shoes on and sporting a 7’1 wingspan, Kanter wasn’t the tallest player on the floor, but his 260-pound frame afforded him a ton of success on the block. He’s not a great athlete by any standards, though he flashes some explosiveness from time to time, but uses his body as well as any player you’ll see on the high school level. He exceptionally good at using leverage, is extremely patient, won’t hesitate to initiate contact, and shows outstanding hands.

When Kanter gets the ball in the post off an entry pass or offensive rebound, he’s very good finding angles to create clean looks for himself at the basket. Able to establish deep position and showing an array of drop step moves and little pivots, Kanter has a knack for taking what the defense gives him and doing exactly what he needs to get the job done. Savvy beyond his years, Kanter excels at the rim for a player without outstanding athleticism.

Kanter’s offensive game appears to have expanded from his days with Fenerbahce. In addition to the incredible feel for scoring in the post that caught the attention of scouts years ago, he’s now capable of stepping to out the high-post and knocking down shots with solid consistency. His shot is on the flat side, but he showed range out to the college three-point line and could develop into a very reliable pick-and-pop threat.

Defensively, Kanter had some excellent possessions in practice, coming up with some blocks by being a step ahead of the play and contesting shots with his positioning, rather than his athleticism. His body helps him fight for position on the block, and his physical nature allowed him to deny penetration when his man attempted to take him off the dribble. Once the shot goes up, Kanter does a nice job of sealing off his man and pursuing the ball. Though his ability to rebound outside of his area wasn’t as apparent as it was in junior play, he’s still, more often than not, the player coming down with the ball in a crowd.

On top of his excellent skill level, Kanter impressed with his intangibles as well. He’s the type of quiet, competitive player that simply goes about his business without getting frustrated at officials or letting a few bad possessions throw off his game. The fact that he didn’t start the Hoop Summit game didn’t seem to faze him, as he could be seen enthusiastically supporting his team from the bench.
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Post#1388 » by KiySi » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:07 pm

This is the link to the full article btw..

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Post#1389 » by AlvinWilliams_fan » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:14 pm

hes actually intriguing to me for a euro
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Re: Enes Kanter.... Could he be the solution to our problems? 

Post#1390 » by baller1069 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:15 pm

Most of those moves would be stopped by NBA bigs.

I don't think he has enough athleticism to be taken with a top 5 pick.

Maybe if we had a pick from like 8-15 or if the raps desperately needed a big and that was their only need.

With a top 5 pick and so many needs, I think the raps can do better.
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Post#1391 » by dballislife » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:16 pm

a lot of talent, but bad knees will prob keep him from being a high pick, look at oden, gotta be scared of that
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Post#1392 » by dTox » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:16 pm

Irving is not going to the Cavs, since when did having the worst record guarantee a lottery win? Bargnani is not our future PF, I'm pretty sure most ppl here have come to that realization that he's not a true bigman and Ed Davis is already looking like a better prospect and is our future PF moving forward unless a better prospect comes along. Also I would much rather have Jones/Barnes over Kanter anyday, we don't need any more unproven/raw talent.
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Post#1393 » by Blasphemy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:17 pm

Can JIMMER get some love here?
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Post#1394 » by JYD » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:17 pm

From what I've seen I'm not impressed at all. He plays below the rim, and isn't especially long. I have visions of a better Hoffa watching this guy...maybe he can be a serviceable player but I think he belongs closer to the late lotto. Valanciunas is the guy I want if we take a C..he's taller, longer, more athletic and is very bouncy. Also has great hands and is an excellent FT shooter.
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Post#1395 » by orangutooth » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:23 pm

take brook lopez and smash his knees with a hammer and you get this guy.
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Post#1396 » by plainballing » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:45 pm

We need stronger wing first...you realize we do have some young big in Amir and Ed.
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Post#1397 » by Gurgals » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:47 pm

dTox wrote:Also I would much rather have Jones/Barnes over Kanter anyday, we don't need any more unproven/raw talent.


Not saying we should select Kanter by any means, but Jones & Barnes are the 2 most unproven, raw talent players in the entire draft. Many sources say they could likely be the biggest disappointments of the draft.

However, I'd take my chance with either of the 2, especially Jones. 6'11'' freak of a nature/athletic freak SF, who can break people down, and has great shot mechanics!!? Sign me the **** up
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Re: Enes Kanter.... Could he be the solution to our problems? 

Post#1398 » by The Business » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:51 pm

He's got bad knees. Well documented medical issues with knees. stay away.
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Post#1399 » by plainballing » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:54 pm

Gurgals wrote:
dTox wrote:Also I would much rather have Jones/Barnes over Kanter anyday, we don't need any more unproven/raw talent.


Not saying we should select Kanter by any means, but Jones & Barnes are the 2 most unproven, raw talent players in the entire draft. Many sources say they could likely be the biggest disappointments of the draft.

However, I'd take my chance with either of the 2, especially Jones. 6'11'' freak of a nature/athletic freak SF, who can break people down, and has great shot mechanics!!? Sign me the **** up


That's the true reason for being a lottery pick. They have huge potential and, if they maximize it, they will become better players.

Anyways, we can always purchase picks or trade some of our guys and/or cash for picks.
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Post#1400 » by blacknred » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:55 pm

The Business wrote:He's got bad knees. Well documented medical issues with knees. stay away.


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