2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Psubs]

Who to go after in the undrafted market?

Ayayi, Nix? Huff?

[UnbelievablyRAW]

So many promising guys dropped. Would have liked to dangle a future first to get Keon the same was the Clippers did. Even throw Boucher to get Garuba who was sitting there for mad long. Idk what we are doing sitting Pat with this roster. If Pascal isn’t traded for Kuminga, Wiseman and Wiggins idk wtf we are doing. There is no offensive star on the roster

[Blood Orange]

So many promising guys dropped. Would have liked to dangle a future first to get Keon the same was the Clippers did. Even throw Boucher to get Garuba who was sitting there for mad long. Idk what we are doing sitting Pat with this roster. If Pascal isn’t traded for Kuminga, Wiseman and Wiggins idk wtf we are doing. There is no offensive star on the roster

If Kyle wants to go to the Clippers, I can see a possible S/T with them picking up Keon as part of the package, though its a slim chance.

[polo007]

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[Asif16]

I dont even know what direction our team is gonna take now the rest of this off-season.

Like who are we even gonna target. Are we still going after a big or is it mainly a guard now?

[Morris_Shatford]

Who to go after in the undrafted market?

Ayayi, Nix? Huff?

Ayayi is a guy I would like to have a look at for sure.

[Raptorfan2012]

I am super confused in terms of what the Raps are going to do with this offseason. Nurse admits that they can't run Barnes as a full time C, so we definitely need a starting calibre C, but then there are the rumors that we are pursuing Ball (which I think makes sense and maybe a reason why we skipped on Suggs). But we only have around $17-20M to play with, so only way we can get ball is a S&T with Lowry(?) Then how much money will we have for our full time C? Do we bring back Birch? I am going to assume Barnes will take Stanley Johnson's minutes as OG and Pascal's back up.

[Asif16]

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[Syd-TK3]

We show interest in everyone at this point

[Troubadour]

To me, the first decision that needs to be made is regarding Kyle Lowry. Would it be possible to sign and trade him for a Traded Player Exception? Using that TPE to then acquire another player in a sign and trade so the MLE could be preserved would make the most sense.

That way you could sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie as an example and then use the MLE to sign Khem Birch and give longer deals to Banton and Johnson.

[Rapsfan07]

To me, the first decision that needs to be made is regarding Kyle Lowry. Would it be possible to sign and trade him for a Traded Player Exception? Using that TPE to then acquire another player in a sign and trade so the MLE could be preserved would make the most sense.

That way you could sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie as an example and then use the MLE to sign Khem Birch and give longer deals to Banton and Johnson.

Good question.

Is it possible? Theoretically, yes but the team acquiring Lowry would have to have enough capspace to give us no salary in return and be willing to spend it on Lowry. I'd imagine we'd sign him to deal that both him and his new team is comfortable with. Then we'd have to trade assets to whatever team for their free agent in another S&T.

I do agree with you though - I think we should go forward operating above the cap. However if we're gonna do the S&T thing like you said above, I'd rather just go for Ball.

We'll still have the MLE to offer Birch either way.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I'd love if we sent Pascal and Lowry to NOH for Ingram and Ball. Throw in a future first and Boucher as well and maybe take NAW back.

They can posture all they want, Scottie Barnes isn't going to be the Giannis/Kawhi hybrid they are hoping for anytime soon so holding onto guys in the middle of their prime pre 30 years makes no sense as we project to be a late lottery team

[Troubadour]

To me, the first decision that needs to be made is regarding Kyle Lowry. Would it be possible to sign and trade him for a Traded Player Exception? Using that TPE to then acquire another player in a sign and trade so the MLE could be preserved would make the most sense.

That way you could sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie as an example and then use the MLE to sign Khem Birch and give longer deals to Banton and Johnson.

Good question.

Is it possible? Theoretically, yes but the team acquiring Lowry would have to have enough capspace to give us no salary in return and be willing to spend it on Lowry. I'd imagine we'd sign him to deal that both him and his new team is comfortable with. Then we'd have to trade assets to whatever team for their free agent in another S&T.

I do agree with you though - I think we should go forward operating above the cap. However if we're gonna do the S&T thing like you said above, I'd rather just go for Ball.

We'll still have the MLE to offer Birch either way.

Best case scenario is Kyle signing with the Heat or Pelicans, I think. I get the Lonzo Ball thing, but I just want one more player on the team who can get their own shot, you know?

[Rapsfan07]

To me, the first decision that needs to be made is regarding Kyle Lowry. Would it be possible to sign and trade him for a Traded Player Exception? Using that TPE to then acquire another player in a sign and trade so the MLE could be preserved would make the most sense.

That way you could sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie as an example and then use the MLE to sign Khem Birch and give longer deals to Banton and Johnson.

Good question.

Is it possible? Theoretically, yes but the team acquiring Lowry would have to have enough capspace to give us no salary in return and be willing to spend it on Lowry. I'd imagine we'd sign him to deal that both him and his new team is comfortable with. Then we'd have to trade assets to whatever team for their free agent in another S&T.

I do agree with you though - I think we should go forward operating above the cap. However if we're gonna do the S&T thing like you said above, I'd rather just go for Ball.

We'll still have the MLE to offer Birch either way.

Best case scenario is Kyle signing with the Heat or Pelicans, I think. I get the Lonzo Ball thing, but I just want one more player on the team who can get their own shot, you know?

Me and you both, bro. Me and you both.

[ItsDanger]

Barnes over Suggs is a rebuilding pick while we're retooling. It opens up the trade possibilities more than picking Suggs. Now you can easily trade Siakam AND Fred if you choose to go that route. ANY top offensive talent easily fits beside OG & Barnes. These 2 are the real core of this team going forward.

Or you can keep the old the core together and embrace positionless basketball I'd rather go all defense because our half court offense is still the #1 problem and cannot be easily fixed. Only way that improves is maximum chemistry in a motion offense. That requires a lot of time and minimal roster turnover (which is not Masai's strongsuit).

[Rapsfan07]

I'd love if we sent Pascal and Lowry to NOH for Ingram and Ball. Throw in a future first and Boucher as well and maybe take NAW back.

They can posture all they want, Scottie Barnes isn't going to be the Giannis/Kawhi hybrid they are hoping for anytime soon so holding onto guys in the middle of their prime pre 30 years makes no sense as we project to be a late lottery team

This, at the very least, is the ray of hope from last night.

If Barnes ever sniffs the Kawhi/Giannis level, it will be at least a few years from now.

My hope is that we're going to start selling guys like Siakam, FVV and Lowry for some youngers guys and draft capital while we wait on Barnes.

But definitely, I think it's time to move on from at least 2 of these 3. Preferably Lowry and FVV as I think they'll fetch more and PGs are more easily replaceable but I know opinions will vary on that front.

[Asif16]

To me, the first decision that needs to be made is regarding Kyle Lowry. Would it be possible to sign and trade him for a Traded Player Exception? Using that TPE to then acquire another player in a sign and trade so the MLE could be preserved would make the most sense.

That way you could sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie as an example and then use the MLE to sign Khem Birch and give longer deals to Banton and Johnson.

Good question.

Is it possible? Theoretically, yes but the team acquiring Lowry would have to have enough capspace to give us no salary in return and be willing to spend it on Lowry. I'd imagine we'd sign him to deal that both him and his new team is comfortable with. Then we'd have to trade assets to whatever team for their free agent in another S&T.

I do agree with you though - I think we should go forward operating above the cap. However if we're gonna do the S&T thing like you said above, I'd rather just go for Ball.

We'll still have the MLE to offer Birch either way.

Best case scenario is Kyle signing with the Heat or Pelicans, I think. I get the Lonzo Ball thing, but I just want one more player on the team who can get their own shot, you know?

I think we will. I think they're really gonna target Guards.

[Asif16]

To me, the first decision that needs to be made is regarding Kyle Lowry. Would it be possible to sign and trade him for a Traded Player Exception? Using that TPE to then acquire another player in a sign and trade so the MLE could be preserved would make the most sense.

That way you could sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie as an example and then use the MLE to sign Khem Birch and give longer deals to Banton and Johnson.

Getting a Large TPE back in a Lowry S&T back would be really really clutch. I didn't even think of that.

[pilkoids]

Who to go after in the undrafted market?

Ayayi, Nix? Huff?

Ayayi is a guy I would like to have a look at for sure.

I was pretty big on him too but apparently he'll be joining the Lakers:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2021-07-30/joel-ayayi-austin-reaves-deals-lakers-russell-westbrook-nba

[2019nbachamps]

People need to stop comparing Barnes to Giannis. Giannis is 7 feet, a freak athlete, and a guy that comes along once a decade or so. He only started playing basketball a few years before being drafted and was on a superstar track after 3-4 years in the NBA. Giannis’ success is due to a mix of his incredible physical attributes and his killer work ethic.

I hope Barnes becomes a superstar but he almost certainly won’t match Giannis’ level.