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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1381 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:36 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:We wouldn't have had the contracts to get Ingram if we waited until free agency. Just be happy we got a potential allstar for a projected late 1st rounder at that time.

Now it sucks a bit because that 1st rounder could becoming amazing with the Pacers not having Halliburton/Turner for next season lol.

Post Masai, is he here? Do we even try to pay him 40M. Probably not.

Not to mention we now have to trade one of RJ or IQ, Less minutes for Grady. etc.
why are people so obsessed with gradey minutes. The guy hasn’t shown enough to desperately find ways to get him minutes. He’s not above Rj or ochai on the depth chart and is fighting Jakobe for rotation minutes.


People want to keep handing out minutes to players who shouldn't be playing. Make players earn their playing time through their play!!! Go to the G League if you gotta work on areas to get there.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1382 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:39 am

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Post Masai, is he here? Do we even try to pay him 40M. Probably not.

Not to mention we now have to trade one of RJ or IQ, Less minutes for Grady. etc.
why are people so obsessed with gradey minutes. The guy hasn’t shown enough to desperately find ways to get him minutes. He’s not above Rj or ochai on the depth chart and is fighting Jakobe for rotation minutes.


People want to keep handing out minutes to players who shouldn't be playing. Make players earn their playing time through their play!!! Go to the G League if you gotta work on areas to get there.

The cap makes it an issue. Loading up on more crappy contracts doesn't help.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1383 » by Boogie! » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:45 am

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Boogie! wrote:why are people so obsessed with gradey minutes. The guy hasn’t shown enough to desperately find ways to get him minutes. He’s not above Rj or ochai on the depth chart and is fighting Jakobe for rotation minutes.


People want to keep handing out minutes to players who shouldn't be playing. Make players earn their playing time through their play!!! Go to the G League if you gotta work on areas to get there.

The cap makes it an issue. Loading up on more crappy contracts doesn't help.


Why the **** is everyone so obsessed with contracts like it’s their money or they think somehow they understand better ways to allocate this money… how about just being happy to have players that can actually play basketball… I’d rather watch Brandon Ingram than **** gradey dick…
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1384 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:52 am

Boogie! wrote::evil:
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People want to keep handing out minutes to players who shouldn't be playing. Make players earn their playing time through their play!!! Go to the G League if you gotta work on areas to get there.

The cap makes it an issue. Loading up on more crappy contracts doesn't help.


Why the **** is everyone so obsessed with contracts like it’s their money or they think somehow they understand better ways to allocate this money… how about just being happy to have players that can actually play basketball… I’d rather watch Brandon Ingram than **** gradey dick…

Yeah, like 60% of the time.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1385 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:03 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Boogie! wrote::evil:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:The cap makes it an issue. Loading up on more crappy contracts doesn't help.


Why the **** is everyone so obsessed with contracts like it’s their money or they think somehow they understand better ways to allocate this money… how about just being happy to have players that can actually play basketball… I’d rather watch Brandon Ingram than **** gradey dick…

Yeah, like 60% of the time.


We got 2 bad contracts with IQ/RJ but everyone else could easily be traded tomorrow if we want to. Even IQ could be a decent contract if he can stay healthy next year and RJ will be an expiring next offseason.

I'm expecting 40 to 45 wins next year while having a super young roster that is improving. I like to nitpick particular areas but im excited as hell to see this team play next year in a weak ass East.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1386 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:08 am

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Boogie! wrote::evil:

Why the **** is everyone so obsessed with contracts like it’s their money or they think somehow they understand better ways to allocate this money… how about just being happy to have players that can actually play basketball… I’d rather watch Brandon Ingram than **** gradey dick…

Yeah, like 60% of the time.


We got 2 bad contracts with IQ/RJ but everyone else could easily be traded tomorrow if we want to. Even IQ could be a decent contract if he can stay healthy next year and RJ will be an expiring next offseason.

I'm expecting 40 to 45 wins next year while having a super young roster that is improving. I like to nitpick particular areas but im excited as hell to see this team play next year in a weak ass East.

NO tried to move him to just about every team in the league. We've been shopping RJ, IQ's prolly next.

So, if it ends up BI in IQ out. That's probably worse.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1387 » by Tripod » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:09 am

Some people want to bitch just to bitch. Complaining about possibly overpaying your #1 scoring option and a past 24+point scorer, and now you might have to trade a bench guy. Boo hoo.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1388 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:13 am

Tripod wrote:Some people want to bitch just to bitch. Complaining about possibly overpaying your #1 scoring option and a past 24+point scorer, and now you might have to trade a bench guy. Boo hoo.

Everybody knows he's not a #1 guy. He's like 190lbs.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1389 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:13 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Yeah, like 60% of the time.


We got 2 bad contracts with IQ/RJ but everyone else could easily be traded tomorrow if we want to. Even IQ could be a decent contract if he can stay healthy next year and RJ will be an expiring next offseason.

I'm expecting 40 to 45 wins next year while having a super young roster that is improving. I like to nitpick particular areas but im excited as hell to see this team play next year in a weak ass East.

NO tried to move him to just about every team in the league. We've been shopping RJ, IQ's prolly next.

So, if it ends up BI in IQ out. That's probably worse.


NO actually tried to re-sign him to 4/160 but he turned them down. Then he was on trading block while INJURED and still had a few suitors and he chose us because of fit and the contract extension.

How many injured players are being traded for hauls? We just gotta hope him having almost a full season off to work on his body will fix him. Its definitely a risk worth taking considering how little we gave up to do it.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1390 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:15 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
We got 2 bad contracts with IQ/RJ but everyone else could easily be traded tomorrow if we want to. Even IQ could be a decent contract if he can stay healthy next year and RJ will be an expiring next offseason.

I'm expecting 40 to 45 wins next year while having a super young roster that is improving. I like to nitpick particular areas but im excited as hell to see this team play next year in a weak ass East.

NO tried to move him to just about every team in the league. We've been shopping RJ, IQ's prolly next.

So, if it ends up BI in IQ out. That's probably worse.


NO actually tried to re-sign him to 4/160 but he turned them down. Then he was on trading block while INJURED and still had a few suitors and he chose us because of fit and the contract extension.

How many injured players are being traded for hauls? We just gotta hope him having almost a full season off to work on his body will fix him. Its definitely a risk worth taking considering how little we gave up to do it.

So we're on their level now.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1391 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:15 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tripod wrote:Some people want to bitch just to bitch. Complaining about possibly overpaying your #1 scoring option and a past 24+point scorer, and now you might have to trade a bench guy. Boo hoo.

Everybody knows he's not a #1 guy. He's like 190lbs.


Then what does that say about the rest of the roster when hes the clear cut number 1 option? You're just crying for the sake of crying, offseason got you bored lol.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1392 » by Tripod » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:16 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tripod wrote:Some people want to bitch just to bitch. Complaining about possibly overpaying your #1 scoring option and a past 24+point scorer, and now you might have to trade a bench guy. Boo hoo.

Everybody knows he's not a #1 guy. He's like 190lbs.

Oh...they do it by weight now?
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Post#1393 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:17 am

Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tripod wrote:Some people want to bitch just to bitch. Complaining about possibly overpaying your #1 scoring option and a past 24+point scorer, and now you might have to trade a bench guy. Boo hoo.

Everybody knows he's not a #1 guy. He's like 190lbs.

Oh...they do it by weight now?

He gets dislodged by strong winds.
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Post#1394 » by Tripod » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:20 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:NO tried to move him to just about every team in the league. We've been shopping RJ, IQ's prolly next.

So, if it ends up BI in IQ out. That's probably worse.


NO actually tried to re-sign him to 4/160 but he turned them down. Then he was on trading block while INJURED and still had a few suitors and he chose us because of fit and the contract extension.

How many injured players are being traded for hauls? We just gotta hope him having almost a full season off to work on his body will fix him. Its definitely a risk worth taking considering how little we gave up to do it.

So we're on their level now.

That's just dumb thinking.

We didn't want to sign Siakam to the max like they didn't want to sign BI to max.

We were willing to sign Siakam to a lesser #, NO was willing to sign BI to a lesser #.

We traded Siakam. They traded BI.

Indy gave up 3 1sts to sign PS. We gave up 1 1st to sign BI.

You would swear the Raps did something unheard of by trading for and signing BI. :lol:
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1395 » by Tripod » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:21 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Everybody knows he's not a #1 guy. He's like 190lbs.

Oh...they do it by weight now?

He gets dislodged by strong winds.

So we should just to get fat guys? Cool.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1396 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:27 am

Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tripod wrote:Oh...they do it by weight now?

He gets dislodged by strong winds.

So we should just to get fat guys? Cool.

Can they stay healthy? I've seen fat guys win.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1397 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:28 am

Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
NO actually tried to re-sign him to 4/160 but he turned them down. Then he was on trading block while INJURED and still had a few suitors and he chose us because of fit and the contract extension.

How many injured players are being traded for hauls? We just gotta hope him having almost a full season off to work on his body will fix him. Its definitely a risk worth taking considering how little we gave up to do it.

So we're on their level now.

That's just dumb thinking.

We didn't want to sign Siakam to the max like they didn't want to sign BI to max.

We were willing to sign Siakam to a lesser #, NO was willing to sign BI to a lesser #.

We traded Siakam. They traded BI.

Indy gave up 3 1sts to sign PS. We gave up 2 1st to sign BI.

You would swear the Raps did something unheard of by trading for and signing BI. :lol:

Why are we comparing him to Siakam? The whole thing doesn't make sense in isolation. The age/money/injury history.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1398 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:28 am

Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
NO actually tried to re-sign him to 4/160 but he turned them down. Then he was on trading block while INJURED and still had a few suitors and he chose us because of fit and the contract extension.

How many injured players are being traded for hauls? We just gotta hope him having almost a full season off to work on his body will fix him. Its definitely a risk worth taking considering how little we gave up to do it.

So we're on their level now.

That's just dumb thinking.

We didn't want to sign Siakam to the max like they didn't want to sign BI to max.

We were willing to sign Siakam to a lesser #, NO was willing to sign BI to a lesser #.

We traded Siakam. They traded BI.

Indy gave up 3 1sts to sign PS. We gave up 2 1st to sign BI.

You would swear the Raps did something unheard of by trading for and signing BI. :lol:


Technically NO was willing to sign BI to a bigger amount and we also only gave up 1 1st rounder to help strengthen your points even more lol.

Anyways, im done responding to horrible retorts lol.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1399 » by Tripod » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:37 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:So we're on their level now.

That's just dumb thinking.

We didn't want to sign Siakam to the max like they didn't want to sign BI to max.

We were willing to sign Siakam to a lesser #, NO was willing to sign BI to a lesser #.

We traded Siakam. They traded BI.

Indy gave up 3 1sts to sign PS. We gave up 2 1st to sign BI.

You would swear the Raps did something unheard of by trading for and signing BI. :lol:


Technically NO was willing to sign BI to a bigger amount and we also only gave up 1 1st rounder to help strengthen your points even more lol.

Anyways, im done responding to horrible retorts lol.

Yeah I knew it was one 1st...dumb typo.

But yeah...the crazies are out tonight. Must be a full moon.

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1400 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:02 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:He gets dislodged by strong winds.

So we should just to get fat guys? Cool.

Can they stay healthy? I've seen fat guys win.


You’ve seen skinny guys win too.
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