Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas

[DreamTeam09]

I proposed Ed + jose for Roddy B + Haywood + Dominque Jones in another thread somewhere...

[Lawnmower Man]

I am very opposed to Dally

[Wo1verine]

I hope SAC town re-signs Sammy, (probably the only realistic option) I don't want us to sign a vet big long term.. Plus, it's going to cost too much.. No thanks! We drafted VAL workout a buyout and go with him.. then sign a plug center like Foster that way we finish with the worst record in the NBA..

[sonn]

I proposed Ed + jose for Roddy B + Haywood + Dominque Jones in another thread somewhere...

Horrible trade.

[Rapsfan07]

I wouldn't be opposed to Sammy at all. He's probably the most realistic option out there. We just better hope it's at a reasonable cost/length.

This is what I was trying to get at with my last post. I don't think Gortat is worth dealing Ed Davis. I'm sorry. He's one of the players on this team that look like they can be a two-way type guy.

[Rapsfan07]

I hope SAC town re-signs Sammy, (probably the only realistic option) I don't want us to sign a vet big long term.. Plus, it's going to cost too much.. No thanks! We drafted VAL workout a buyout and go with him.. then sign a plug center like Foster that way we finish with the worst record in the NBA..

If the vets contract is movable then I have to wonder why you'd be opposed to signing one long term. Val will need someone to mentor and help him transition when he comes over anyways. So a vet on a short-term contract I think is a great idea. Tell me why not.

[Orsk]

I hope SAC town re-signs Sammy, (probably the only realistic option) I don't want us to sign a vet big long term.. Plus, it's going to cost too much.. No thanks! We drafted VAL workout a buyout and go with him.. then sign a plug center like Foster that way we finish with the worst record in the NBA..

Why even post? The point of the thread is to discuss who Casey might of been hinting at when he said we are targeting one of the main FA centers and that we were trying to get some vet help at the 5. What you WANT doesnt come into it, it's what BC wants and what we think he will do.... Please post constructively.

To all the people whining that someone like Nene is too old etc, we have our 5 of the future in JV, but we need someone in the mean time that can man the 5, prove once and for all if its worth keeping Bargs and to help mentore JV. I would HOPE that whoever we sign is going to be too old and ready to walk / retire by the time we are ready to contend, so that they can come off the books and there is a clean transition from them to JV when the time comes. Someone like Nene or Sammy are perfect. I think it is also a HUGE mistake to try and trade ED or some other young asset to try and get whoever we target in a S&T. We have cap space, I would prefer to use that cap space to over pay someone a bit than to give up our young assets.

[Patman]

I proposed Ed + jose for Roddy B + Haywood + Dominque Jones in another thread somewhere...

If we can get a future first, this makes sense for both teams. The Mavs have 4 key FA's: Chandler, Butler, Stevenson, and Barea. There's no way they will be able to keep all 4. The new CBA will probably be even more strict that just a luxury tax.

I'm sure Tyson is their priority, and I think Tyson wants to stay. They won't keep both Butler and Stevenson. They'd prefer Caron, but I think they'll choose the cheaper route with Stevenson. I also, think Barea walks, unless Kidd hangs them up, which I don't think he will.

So, here's Dallas next year after this trade:

C - Chandler
PF - Nowitzki
SF - Marion
SG - Stevenson
PG - Kidd
Bench - Ed Davis, Peja, Jet, Jose, Mahinmi, Cardinal

They should add a vet C to balance out their roster. Though, I think they'll prefer small-ball as their back-up unit, with Dirk sliding to the 5 and Ed or Shawn at the 4.

[Wo1verine]

I hope SAC town re-signs Sammy, (probably the only realistic option) I don't want us to sign a vet big long term.. Plus, it's going to cost too much.. No thanks! We drafted VAL workout a buyout and go with him.. then sign a plug center like Foster that way we finish with the worst record in the NBA..

If the vets contract is movable then I have to wonder why you'd be opposed to signing one long term. Val will need someone to mentor and help him transition when he comes over anyways. So a vet on a short-term contract I think is a great idea. Tell me why not.

A vet C on a short-term deal is fine, but guys like Chandler, Nene, Gasol, and Dalembert probably will get long-term deals from other clubs... I rather sign a C like Foster to a one year deal and target the top pick in next years draft then try and make the playoffs only to loose in the 1st round.

For a rebuilding club short-term deals and cap space should be the goal.. yet we hear all this nonsense about how BC is interested signing Barbosa long-term and how we're interested in signing a top center who will get his long term deal, especially to come here..

[eitanr]

Foster on a short term maybe combined with Kwame on that type of deal could be ideal.

[Duffman100]

Anyone here hoping we go after Wilson Chandler to fill that massive gap at the 3 spot?

Not at all, especially since next year's draft class is loaded at SF.

And couple of good PGs.

Think about

Kybango/Rivers
DD
Chandler
Davis
Val

Athletic, good defensively...that's an exciting young team.

[Rapsfan07]

I hope SAC town re-signs Sammy, (probably the only realistic option) I don't want us to sign a vet big long term.. Plus, it's going to cost too much.. No thanks! We drafted VAL workout a buyout and go with him.. then sign a plug center like Foster that way we finish with the worst record in the NBA..

If the vets contract is movable then I have to wonder why you'd be opposed to signing one long term. Val will need someone to mentor and help him transition when he comes over anyways. So a vet on a short-term contract I think is a great idea. Tell me why not.

A vet C on a short-term deal is fine, but guys like Chandler, Nene, Gasol, and Dalembert probably will get long-term deals from other clubs... I rather sign a C like Foster to a one year deal and target the top pick in next years draft then try and make the playoffs only to loose in the 1st round.

For a rebuilding club short-term deals and cap space should be the goal.. yet we hear all this nonsense about how BC is interested signing Barbosa long-term and how we're interested in signing a top center who will get his long term deal, especially to come here..

Understood. Can definitely see what you're saying. But at the same time I think you kinda owe the players a little more than that. I honestly can't think of a team besides SAC that would offer Dally a long-term contract. I think a reasonable deal for three years with a club option for Dally is reasonable. Most contending teams have their answer at C or don't have the capspace to go out and offer money to Dally. This is why I think he'd be a prime candidate. But I do understand the Foster and Brown ideas. Just think we owe our guys a little more than that and like I said while we don't have Val, he'd be a good option for us at C

[Danny1616]

If we can somehow get Marc Gasol I would be absolutely estatic. Young player with a winning mentality and a beast on both sides of the court. Just does all the little things a team needs to win games.

[MinnyMo]

I proposed Ed + jose for Roddy B + Haywood + Dominque Jones in another thread somewhere...

If we can get a future first, this makes sense for both teams. The Mavs have 4 key FA's: Chandler, Butler, Stevenson, and Barea. There's no way they will be able to keep all 4. The new CBA will probably be even more strict that just a luxury tax.

I'm sure Tyson is their priority, and I think Tyson wants to stay. They won't keep both Butler and Stevenson. They'd prefer Caron, but I think they'll choose the cheaper route with Stevenson. I also, think Barea walks, unless Kidd hangs them up, which I don't think he will.

So, here's Dallas next year after this trade:

C - Chandler
PF - Nowitzki
SF - Marion
SG - Stevenson
PG - Kidd
Bench - Ed Davis, Peja, Jet, Jose, Mahinmi, Cardinal

They should add a vet C to balance out their roster. Though, I think they'll prefer small-ball as their back-up unit, with Dirk sliding to the 5 and Ed or Shawn at the 4.

Thats assuming the PG's excel in the next level, they could very well have Josh Selby type season, there is also a very large SF crop, so the odds are better that a SF figures it out than the smaller crop of PG's

[Marvin!]

I wouldn't be opposed to Sammy at all. He's probably the most realistic option out there. We just better hope it's at a reasonable cost/length.

if you can't get Marc Gasol (which you probably can't) then Sam D on a 3 year deal probably is the most realistic option. Gives JoVa a couple years to bulk up and adjust once the gets to Toronto (testing out that nickname - someone else came up with it)

[Gold Chain]

Do people want us to get Chandler? That would kill our tanking for next year, especially if Casey gets Andrea, Demar and them to play some better D.

Finally something I can agree with that you have said.

We need one more tank year to really set ourselves up nicely.

That said, one quick glance at the Atlantic Division and we'll all see that losses might come often no matter who we get.

[RaptorGuy]

I am very opposed to Dally

Me too...he doesn't fit with what the Raptors are doing and timeline. Go for Chandler or maybe even Jordan...

Don't want anything to do with Dally.

[Rapsfan07]

I am very opposed to Dally

Me too...he doesn't fit with what the Raptors are doing and timeline. Go for Chandler or maybe even Jordan...

Don't want anything to do with Dally.

Why? This is what I don't understand...

Let me start by saying that I would MUCH rather have Jordan if possible. But think about it - DeAndre Jordan is playing with his best friend and future HOF in Blake Griffin. They have Kaman who has one more year on his current deal so if they do not re-sign Jordan, then have no C. He's young enough to compliment and grow with that core and they are MUCH further ahead of their rebuild than we are. Why does he leave that situation to come here?

Tyson Chandler has played in this league 10 years and won his first ring a week or so ago. He is widely considered the piece they needed defensively to accomplish that championship. He is also playing beside a HOF. Granted, the Mavs will have to part ways with some of their players since there's not enough money to keep them hear, but I think re-signing Chandler is top priority for them so why wouldn't he stay?

Now I'm not in love with Dalembert but he is without a doubt the most likeliest option available at C. And after drafting Val last night (really liked the pick, btw), I think BC had to do better than Foster or Kwame Brown at C or else this organization loses the faith of the Young Gunz. I understand that Dally is known for playing well in the last year of his contract but so long as the contract is fair (in both years and salary) then he's our guy. This makes more sense than trading Ed for Gortat IMO

[boller4prez]

There are a few europeans who don't play like europeans.

Marc Gasol is one. He's tough as nails, can defend, can rebound, and can score inside.

If we got him it solve an immediate problem. Whats wrong with JV coming off the bench anyways?

[Dalek]

What? No one mention Jamaal Magloire?

Seriously though, my pick for center is Aaron Gray who will be younger and cheaper than Dalembert. If they are serious, I would take a flyer on Yao Ming. If his feet are no good than he retires, but he would be worth the gamble. Same with Greg Oden.