Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3

[Gold Dragon]

Worst case scenario mock draft

Raptors finish 6th worst and one of the lottery teams below them gets a top three pick
Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes don't declare

1. Cleveland - Terrence Jones
2. Lottery - Jared Sullinger
3. Minnesota - Enes Kanter
4. Sacramento - Perry Jones
5. Washington - Derrick Williams
6. New Jersey - Jonas Valanciunas
7. Toronto - Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight

I'm not as high on Kemba as I was earlier on in the season. But I'm also not high on the guys after Terrence Jones and might prefer that this happens if KI and HB don't declare. I think this scenario has a very realistic chance of happening.

[TheRealDeal]

Worst case scenario mock draft

Raptors finish 6th worst and one of the lottery teams below them gets a top three pick
Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes don't declare

1. Cleveland - Terrence Jones
2. Lottery - Jared Sullinger
3. Minnesota - Enes Kanter
4. Sacramento - Perry Jones
5. Washington - Derrick Williams
6. New Jersey - Jonas Valanciunas
7. Toronto - Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight

I'm not as high on Kemba as I was earlier on in the season. But I'm also not high on the guys after Terrence Jones and might prefer that this happens if KI and HB don't declare. I think this scenario has a very realistic chance of happening.

I highly doubt that we are considering drafting Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker. Jan Vesely and Donatas Motiejunas are a couple of Euro's that are sure to interest BC. There are great scorers like Jimmer and Kawhi Leonard who could play themselves into a higher position. I was hoping Singleton from FSU would fall to the Miami pick but reaching for him isn't out of the question.

Let's hope we don't have to worry about that. I'm liking the fact that we have the 4th worst record and Kyrie, D-Will, The Jones', Barnes and Sully could all easily declare. I don't know much about the Lithuanian big men but if we do our homework and find out one of them could be the interior presence that we've been needing for years I'll support it 100%. -->That's if the first few potential packed studs are gone.

[fredericklove]

So what now? Does Cleveland getting Baron Davis help or hinder our chances of getting Kyrie Irving saying they get the #1 pick.

It helps them get the #1 pick, I believe acquiring LA's 1st rounder gives them a 4% boost at landing the #1 overall.

I don't think they care what Baron brings on the court, if Kyrie is there I think they'll take him.

Yeah, Cleveland is not dumb enough to really think Baron is their PG long term or even PG of the future and with the feud betw' him and Coach Scott I doubt Baron will last long there.

If they have a shot at 1st and 8th pick...I say a damn Kyrie/Valanciunas combo or Kyrie/Donut combo would look like a good start for their rebuilding stage.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Worst case scenario mock draft

Raptors finish 6th worst and one of the lottery teams below them gets a top three pick
Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes don't declare

1. Cleveland - Terrence Jones
2. Lottery - Jared Sullinger
3. Minnesota - Enes Kanter
4. Sacramento - Perry Jones
5. Washington - Derrick Williams
6. New Jersey - Jonas Valanciunas
7. Toronto - Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight

I'm not as high on Kemba as I was earlier on in the season. But I'm also not high on the guys after Terrence Jones and might prefer that this happens if KI and HB don't declare. I think this scenario has a very realistic chance of happening.

Noway kyrie doesn't declare with austin rivers coming to duke. he'd be silly to risk not getting picked number 1 as well

[Mr. Perfect]

http://tsn.ca/ncaa/story/?id=355202

TSN will have live coverage of this year's NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship, commonly referred to as NCAA MARCH MADNESS. Complete coverage of the 2011 tournament is available to Canadian fans on TSN and TSN2 beginning Thursday, March 17 at 11:30am et.

"It's hard to find an event with as much drama and excitement as NCAA MARCH MADNESS," said Stewart Johnston, President, TSN. "We are thrilled to add this marquee property to the TSN and TSN2 schedules. Bringing the NCAA tournament to TSN is another example of our commitment to giving Canadians the biggest events in sports."

TSN will produce an original studio show for pre- and post-game analysis, along with live look-ins to various games.

All games on TSN and TSN2 will be broadcast nationally in High Definition.

Man why is TSN and Sportsnet getting everything? The Score's broadcasting is so much better and Tim Micallef is better than any drone that TSN will have probably gonna be like Leo Rautins or Rod Black ughh

[douggood]

assuming that Kyrie Irving is in the draft and is the #1 pick and the raptors dont pick till around 5-6, what lotto teams are in a position to trade down and not pick a PG.

Washington, NJ, Sac(depends on evans), Mil, GS, Min (depends on rubio)

[ATLTimekeeper]

Washington and maybe GS would be the only ones that might not want Irving, I imagine. But, of course those teams might want out of the draft entirely and that pick would be up for sale to the highest bidder. I think NJ's pick now belongs to Utah, so they would definitely be in the Irving market.

[Rhettmatic]

Chad Ford has a new column up stating the (fairly) obvious: the Cavs want Kyrie.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?nam ... id=6158430

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Chad Ford has a new column up stating the (fairly) obvious: the Cavs want Kyrie.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?nam ... id=6158430

Is there any doubt they'll get #1, and Kyrie? The lotto was decided when LBJ took his talents to South Beach, IMO, like last year's was when Arenas got shut down.

[DreamTeam09]

If we are outside of the top 4 I don't want the pick. Clv will take Kyrie fa sho? Why not sullinger from out of ohio? Wha are they gonna do with a #1 pick pg and baron D?

[Indeed]

If we are outside of the top 4 I don't want the pick. Clv will take Kyrie fa sho? Why not sullinger from out of ohio? Wha are they gonna do with a #1 pick pg and baron D?

I don't know, I think there is little difference between drafting 3rd and 8th.
I would keep it as long as it is withing top 8.

[DreamTeam09]

If we are outside of the top 4 I don't want the pick. Clv will take Kyrie fa sho? Why not sullinger from out of ohio? Wha are they gonna do with a #1 pick pg and baron D?

I don't know, I think there is little difference between drafting 3rd and 8th.
I would keep it as long as it is withing top 8.

Maybe, I just don't think we can get a starter for us at 8th in this draft. We need help at pg/sf/c

- (pg) kemba & knight aren't starters I don't think.
- (sf) I don't think Barnes/TJ/PJ drop all the way down to 8th.
- (C) I don't like any of the Cs in this draft. If Kanter is there at 8th i'll take him.

[5DOM]

Barnes, if he plays average in the tournament and decides to declare, has a very good chance of dropping to 8 IMO. I'm not yet a fan of his, but at 8 I can't complain

[God Squad]

He's not dropping to 8th lol. Barnes will stay in school before that happens.

[Silk Wilkes]

He's not dropping to 8th lol. Barnes will stay in school before that happens.

He might not know, teams guarantee things all the time and then pick someone else. At 8 I can see why people wouldn't mind picking him, but I just can't see this guy panning out. I mean, the talent is there but against college competition he should be able to dominate especially if he had these high expectations coming in. Why were his expectations so high? What's wrong? I just don't know...

[Randle McMurphy]

Dropping to 8?

Based on what Barnes has done in college (absolutely nothing), he doesn't even deserve to be a lottery pick.

[Dalek]

If we drop as low as 6-10 range in the lottery, I have to say that we draft Jimmer Fredette.

PROS

-best shooter in his class; all NBA PGs will have to guard him from half-court
-gets to the rim (draws a ton of fouls in college)
-NBA defense rules give him an advantage
-plays team ball
-Strength helps to negate lack of athleticism
-Leader for his team (carries a quiet Steve Nash confidence about him)
-High b-ball IQ

CONS

-Won't stop elite PGs (question is who can stop C.Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose?)
-Shoot-first mentality (his role at BYU encourages this)
-Too much hype about him to live up to expectations (he manages the pressure of having all of Utah and States watch his every game; played well in front of NBA players and GMs)

At worst the Raps would be getting a great bench scoring threat who gives us legit three-point shooting. The best-case scenario is that he can be the right PG to build around because he brings great leadership skills and intensity.

Who I have rated higher Jimmer:
-Irving
-Sullinger
-Barnes
-Knight
-Valanciunas

Other players like Jones, Vesely, Kanter are either bad fits or projects that we shouldn't get into developing. We need NBA ready players for once.

[Silk Wilkes]

I can't see Jimmer Fredette being anything more than JJ Redick or Adam Morrison. HOWEVER, I haven't seen enough of his games. To me though, it seems like people want him to be a Steph Curry type of player when he's not. I just don't get the hype behind him I guess.

[Alfred]

If we drop as low as 6-10 range in the lottery, I have to say that we draft Jimmer Fredette.

PROS

-best shooter in his class; all NBA PGs will have to guard him from half-court
-gets to the rim (draws a ton of fouls in college)
-NBA defense rules give him an advantage
-plays team ball
-Strength helps to negate lack of athleticism
-Leader for his team (carries a quiet Steve Nash confidence about him)
-High b-ball IQ

CONS

-Won't stop elite PGs (question is who can stop C.Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose?)
-Shoot-first mentality (his role at BYU encourages this)
-Too much hype about him to live up to expectations (he manages the pressure of having all of Utah and States watch his every game; played well in front of NBA players and GMs)

At worst the Raps would be getting a great bench scoring threat who gives us legit three-point shooting. The best-case scenario is that he can be the right PG to build around because he brings great leadership skills and intensity.

Who I have rated higher Jimmer:
-Irving
-Sullinger
-Barnes
-Knight
-Valanciunas

Other players like Jones, Vesely, Kanter are either bad fits or projects that we shouldn't get into developing. We need NBA ready players for once.

Jimmer Fredette has far too much bust potential to take in the top 10. He's a mid-first-round draft pick in my opinion, but would be a huge reach at 6-10.

[wanker]

If we drop as low as 6-10 range in the lottery, I have to say that we draft Jimmer Fredette.

PROS

-best shooter in his class; all NBA PGs will have to guard him from half-court
-gets to the rim (draws a ton of fouls in college)
-NBA defense rules give him an advantage
-plays team ball
-Strength helps to negate lack of athleticism
-Leader for his team (carries a quiet Steve Nash confidence about him)
-High b-ball IQ

CONS

-Won't stop elite PGs (question is who can stop C.Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose?)
-Shoot-first mentality (his role at BYU encourages this)
-Too much hype about him to live up to expectations (he manages the pressure of having all of Utah and States watch his every game; played well in front of NBA players and GMs)

At worst the Raps would be getting a great bench scoring threat who gives us legit three-point shooting. The best-case scenario is that he can be the right PG to build around because he brings great leadership skills and intensity.

Who I have rated higher Jimmer:
-Irving
-Sullinger
-Barnes
-Knight
-Valanciunas

Other players like Jones, Vesely, Kanter are either bad fits or projects that we shouldn't get into developing. We need NBA ready players for once.