The Donatas Motiejunas Bandwagon Thread

[Morris_Shatford]

Here you have a stiff playing against other stiffs putting up average stats. I stand by my original statement, draft NCAA, you almost always get the better player without all the "adjusting to the rules, i never learned how to rebound, i'm too soft" BS that comes along with euro players. We need immediate impact. So what are we gonna do, draft this guy, start him and Andrea and bench Amir Johnson and Ed Davis, the two players who played harder and better than Andrea? **** off with that ****.

Fail.

Simple equation
Bargnani > Dirk > Motiejunas > NCAA

Fact.

+1 Orignal Baller needs to get used to the new NBA game

There is no longer a need for "post play" in the new NBA,
Just ten guys on the three point line, with five jump shooting seven footers the league will adjust to the superior form of basketball.

Its Evolve or Die,

Once the NBA adjusts its game around Andrea there is no limit on what we can accomplish...

[The_Original_Baller]

Andrea > Dirk?

Ultimate fail.

Now i know you guys are high.

[J Dilla]

They don't need to. Their unique skillset allows them to stretch the floor and pull out your big, tough "All-American" bigmen to the three point line. I'd like to see Dwight stop Donatas from raining threes all over his American ass. The game is evolving. In a few years these traditional bigmen will have to adapt to the new style that more successful bigs like Andrea and Donatas are playing.

Voice of reason right here.

[Morris_Shatford]

Andrea > Dirk?

Ultimate fail.

Now i know you guys are high.

You are correct;
I made an error in my equation, I apologize.

Andrea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirk

Andrea lives the Abercrombie lifestyle, Dirk does not.

[The_Original_Baller]

DEFENSE WINS IN BASKETBALL. You can stretch the floor as wide as you want, it doesn't mean **** if we can't defend the post. Plus i don't want my center, my tallest guy, my guy who's supposed to be battling under the boards, at the 3pt line looking like a tall pussy waiting for the ball to shoot a 3 with nobody under the net to grab an O rebound. Thats a stupid way to build your team and exactly the opposite of a winning formula.

[The_Original_Baller]

Andrea > Dirk?

Ultimate fail.

Now i know you guys are high.

You are correct;
I made an error in my equation, I apologize.

Andrea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirk

Andrea lives the Abercrombie lifestyle, Dirk does not.

You and Andrea can go live the Abercrombie lifestyle if you want, i'll take Dirk everyday and twice on Sunday...lol. Andrea is trash.

Ed Davis > Andrea

[Morris_Shatford]

They don't need to. Their unique skillset allows them to stretch the floor and pull out your big, tough "All-American" bigmen to the three point line. I'd like to see Dwight stop Donatas from raining threes all over his American ass. The game is evolving. In a few years these traditional bigmen will have to adapt to the new style that more successful bigs like Andrea and Donatas are playing.

An excellent grasp and understanding of the direction basketball is heading.

Dwight is too slow for the 21st century game of basketball;
By the time he even realizes that the man he is suppose to cover is going for a three and adjusts its too late....

Then when he finally does get out to the line how can he match the Cheetah like speed of a lean European big man?

Its like an Escalade trying to race Lamborghini,

Size is a determent in the new NBA, height and shooting ability is the waves of the future.

[J Dilla]

Orignal Baller,

Ed Davis sucks. He doesn't even have a jumpshot. Can he shoot the three like Andrea can? No! Andrea runs circles around Ed Davis in practice. Ed Davis will not survive in the new NBA.

[Morris_Shatford]

Ed Davis > Andrea

Ed Davis 3PTA: 0
Andrea Bargnani 3PTA: 223

You Fail

cosmo:

[J Dilla]

DEFENSE WINS IN BASKETBALL. You can stretch the floor as wide as you want, it doesn't mean **** if we can't defend the post. Plus i don't want my center, my tallest guy, my guy who's supposed to be battling under the boards, at the 3pt line looking like a tall pussy waiting for the ball to shoot a 3 with nobody under the net to grab an O rebound. Thats a stupid way to build your team and exactly the opposite of a winning formula.

Dude, no it doesn't. Did you miss that Dallas vs Lakers elimination game? Did you see it? If you didn't, watch it, and come back and talk to me. Offense wins basketball. Then you'll see how Donatas + Andrea are miles ahead of Ed and Amir. Amir can't even stay on the floor.

[Morris_Shatford]

Orignal Baller,

Ed Davis sucks. He doesn't even have a jumpshot. Can he shoot the three like Andrea can? No! Andrea runs circles around Ed Davis in practice. Ed Davis will not survive in the new NBA.

There is still some hope;
He can lean down, and maybe we can hire Dave Hopla to work with him this summer.

He is still young and there is still some hope he won't wash out of the league after his rookie deal, assuming he is willing to put his work in and learn to make a three.

[Morris_Shatford]

DEFENSE WINS IN BASKETBALL.

Evenly matched defense results in a 0 - 0 tie.
No winner;

Perhaps you are okay with that; but in order to keep a guy of Bargnani's talent level from returning to Europe we need to win ballgames, not tie them.

If Andrea were just the greatest basketball player of our lifetimes, then perhaps I wouldn't be as worried. The thing is we are witnessing the greatest athletic specimen in human history 82 games a year, we owe it to this city, this country, these fans, and the entire NBA who can bask in his pure talent to keep him happy by winning,

and the only way to win is to overwhelm your opponent with three balls.

[The_Original_Baller]

Orignal Baller,

Ed Davis sucks. He doesn't even have a jumpshot. Can he shoot the three like Andrea can? No! Andrea runs circles around Ed Davis in practice. Ed Davis will not survive in the new NBA.

What new NBA? All you talk about is shooting, first of all Andrea doesn't even shoot well. DIRK is a shooter, Andrea is a chucker who makes some shots, there's a big difference. I see Andrea with plently of open shots and it was brick city all day. This dude seemed to be struggling all year until Triano decided to bench his ass out of fear that everyone would realize how garbage he was because Amir Johnson and Ed Davis were out playing him with ease.

PLUS again defense wins championships. You can shoot all you want, but the team that can put together stops is the team that will win. I'd rather have Ed Davis' shot blocking and defensive presence in the post over Andrea's ability to "shoot" and "stretch the floor" because at the end of the day we have other guys who can, and are SUPPOSED to be shooting 3's like Jose, Bayless, Barbosa, etc....the Raptors don't need more scoring, Andrea needs to do what he's SUPPOSED to be doing defending his position and grabbing rebounds, he can take the occasional 3 but he should be scoring in the post or midrange. That's Dirks game, all post and mid range, he'll take the 3 when he's in the flow of the game. Defense, defense, defense.

[RaptorKenny]

If you don't like Donatas, you don't like NBA basketball

Donatas and Bargs combo are going to revolutionize NBA ball.
Think about it, a team probably averages around 40-50% shooting from 2s.
If we have both these studs, and we shoot around 30-40% from 3s. Per 100 possession (minus the 4 point plays that we are destined to have with these 2 tall ballers shooting perfect 3s):

2 Points = 80 to 100 points per game
3 Points = 90 to 120 points per game

Scottie Michael ring a bell? Mario and Luigi?
This duo can't be stopped

[TiKusDom]

DEFENSE WINS IN BASKETBALL.

Evenly matched defense results in a 0 - 0 tie.
No winner;

Perhaps you are okay with that; but in order to keep a guy of Bargnani's talent level from returning to Europe we need to win ballgames, not tie them.

If Andrea were just the greatest basketball player of our lifetimes, then perhaps I wouldn't be as worried. The thing is we are witnessing the greatest athletic specimen in human history 82 games a year, we owe it to this city, this country, these fans, and the entire NBA who can bask in his pure talent to keep him happy by winning,

and the only way to win is to overwhelm your opponent with three balls.

three balls always work better than two balls

[Morris_Shatford]

What new NBA? All you talk about is shooting, first of all Andrea doesn't even shoot well. DIRK is a shooter, Andrea is a chucker who makes some shots, there's a big difference.

Clearly you don't understand what it is to be a leader.

If Andrea made 90% of his shots, which based on the talent we have seen him display I think we can all agree on is certainly possible, but think how his teammate would suffer.

How demoralized would Amir, Davis, and Reggie be if there was no Oboards for them to grab?

You have to keep your team involved, you need to keep them feeling useful on the floor,

You call it "chucking"
I call it the action which will define what leadership is from this moment onward.

[Morris_Shatford]

three balls always work better than two balls

FINALLY!!!
Someone gets it!!!

Three points is ALWAYS better then two;

[The_Original_Baller]

Dude, no it doesn't. Did you miss that Dallas vs Lakers elimination game? Did you see it? If you didn't, watch it, and come back and talk to me. Offense wins basketball. Then you'll see how Donatas + Andrea are miles ahead of Ed and Amir. Amir can't even stay on the floor.

Yeah i didn't realize Tyson Chandler was such an offensive juggernaut...lol.

Dirk can hold his own defensively, he usually outplays the other PF in the game. Chandler is a beast defensively.

For instance in a 2 on 2 game:

"Dirk and Chandler" WOULD BE better than "Andrea and Evans" because Dirk is better than Andrea defensively and offensively, and Chandler and Evans are similar players who in some ways will cancel each other out.

The frontcourt play of Dirk and Chandler was just better than the struggling Gasol and Bynum. Plus you had the D of Marion, Kidd on Kobe and even Brewer. The Lakers struggled because of Mavs D. Kobe was off, Gasol was off, Odom was off. D.

[Morris_Shatford]

Dirk can hold his own defensively, he usually outplays the other PF in the game.

100% Agreed.

We are finally on the same page,
Its Dirks focus on defense that has held him back, he spends all this time trying to placate all this "stats chaser fans" on the defensive end when he should just be shooting.

Then he could be on Bargnani's level,
Well maybe not quite on his level but closer to it, like Mercury in comparison to the Sun.

If he could just stop focusing on having to outplay other fours and shot the three he would be a beast.

The other teams four is going to run to the basket uncontested and dunk;

dunk = two points = fail

Whereas the stars of the new NBA will be perfectly content to give up those two points, while they drop a three ball laughing all the way back to their end.

[The_Original_Baller]

What new NBA? All you talk about is shooting, first of all Andrea doesn't even shoot well. DIRK is a shooter, Andrea is a chucker who makes some shots, there's a big difference.

Clearly you don't understand what it is to be a leader.

If Andrea made 90% of his shots, which based on the talent we have seen him display I think we can all agree on is certainly possible, but think how his teammate would suffer.

How demoralized would Amir, Davis, and Reggie be if there was no Oboards for them to grab?

You have to keep your team involved, you need to keep them feeling useful on the floor,

You call it "chucking"
I call it the action which will define what leadership is from this moment onward.

Are you on crack? For realllll man i'm serious. 90%? Tell me that was a typo please or i'm going to have to stop typing.