Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread Part 9

bboyskinnylegs · Post #141 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:43 am

^^ it was working earlier, I guess DX made it private

Silk Wilkes · Post #142 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:53 am

LOL who's it set to private for? That's not good business at all.

Dr Positivity · Post #143 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:56 am

CanadaB-Ball wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:
wanker wrote:"Val is higher than Kanter on our draft board" means: "please take Val over Kanter so that we can draft the latter (who, in fact, is actually higher on our draft board)."

+1

I just don't see BC getting the greenlight on a "wait till 2013" player. Not with his leash

There's a crapton on pressure on everyone in the lottery to get a rookie who plays immediately, who sells tickets, who proves themselves so the GM can start constructing the team. When you get to the Warriors, Pacers, Sixers, etc. those teams need a guy who can get them to the playoffs

I'm sticking with my prediction that Valanciunas gets picked at #18 to Washington. Washington has no pressure to win immediately and a top 6 pick like Vesely or Leonard out this draft. They want to give McGee more minutes at C. The 18 pick was really just a luxury. That's who I see buying on this Valanciunas 2013+ roulette roll

I can honestly see Cleveland picking him at #4.

With Irving, they'd be able to sell tickets and would be able to take a high risk/high reward prospect like Val, due to the fact that Irving seems to be such a sure thing.

Clev is the team most likely to take him high I think. Same logic of "have another high pick to relieve the wait" + they're in deep tanking for years no matter what they do - had success with Ilgauskas

After that I think it's a hard fall as I see a bunch of the smaller market or wannabe playoff teams like Detroit, Mil, Cha, GS, Indy, Philly, NY having too much pressure to wait 2 years

TheRealDeal · Post #144 » by **TheRealDeal** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:01 am

If Minnesota drafts D-Will and Vesely goes to Washington then we'll have an even better chance at drafting one of the top SF's in 2012. Assuming the age limit doesn't change, one (if not all) of Barnes, Perry Jones, Q-Miller & Gilchrist will be on the board when we pick.

fredericklove · Post #145 » by **fredericklove** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:37 am

TheRealDeal wrote:If Minnesota drafts D-Will and Vesely goes to Washington then we'll have an even better chance at drafting one of the top SF's in 2012. Assuming the age limit doesn't change, one (if not all) of Barnes, Perry Jones, Q-Miller & Gilchrist will be on the board when we pick.

gasol or chandler or jordan
davis
barnes or gilchrist or q-miller
derozan
walker

:rofl:

highness · Post #146 » by **highness** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:59 pm

Draft Express just updated their mock draft post NBA combine:

1. Irving
2. Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Valanciunas
5. Kemba
6. Kanter
7. Leonard
8. Vesely
9. Marcus Morris
10. Biyombo

tdotrep2 · Post #147 » by **tdotrep2** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:04 pm

lol givony needs to understand kanter wont drop that far.

ty123 · Post #148 » by **ty123** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:13 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:lol givony needs to understand kanter wont drop that far.

givony is a much better scouter than you so I think you need to understand.

tdotrep2 · Post #149 » by **tdotrep2** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:18 pm

under stand that every other scout and nba personnel think he could got as high as 2?

ty123 · Post #150 » by **ty123** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:20 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:under stand that every other scout and nba personnel think he could got as high as 2?

Which scouts? Jim Kelly?

McFurious1 · Post #151 » by **McFurious1** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:45 pm

highness wrote:Draft Express just updated their mock draft post NBA combine:

1. Irving
2. Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Valanciunas
5. Kemba
6. Kanter
7. Leonard
8. Vesely
9. Marcus Morris
10. Biyombo

I think the top 5 is accurate.. but for some reason I have this feeling Walker isn't a BC type of guy and will look to trade the 5th pick with someone who like Walker maybe the Bobcats for their two picks?

Rapsfan4life · Post #152 » by **Rapsfan4life** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:02 pm

anyone know when no step vert, max vert, etc will be posted on draft express?

Post #153 » by **5DOM** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:28 pm

Draft Express wrote:Heard Cleveland offered Memphis their #4 pick in exchange for Rudy Gay (w/help of their trade exception). Memphis rejected

fredericklove · Post #154 » by **fredericklove** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:38 pm

Kanter at 6th spot? That's crazy. I don't care if he says he's joining wizards or declining interviews w/ teams...at the end of the day the Cavs will draft him at 4th. And yay Walker at 5th! Yee-ha!

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #155 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:39 pm

Yeah, it's just not worth it from MEM's perspective to deal Gay for the 4th pick in this draft, unless they like Leonard, or Vesely maybe. They want more than cap savings, it appears.

Wo1verine · Post #156 » by **Wo1verine** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:44 pm

McFurious1 wrote:
highness wrote:Draft Express just updated their mock draft post NBA combine:

1. Irving
2. Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Valanciunas
5. Kemba
6. Kanter
7. Leonard
8. Vesely
9. Marcus Morris
10. Biyombo

I think the top 5 is accurate.. but for some reason I have this feeling Walker isn't a BC type of guy and will look to trade the 5th pick with someone who like Walker maybe the Bobcats for their two picks?

BC would be foolish to do something like that..

McFurious1 · Post #157 » by **McFurious1** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:56 pm

fredericklove wrote:Kanter at 6th spot? That's crazy. I don't care if he says he's joining wizards or declining interviews w/ teams...at the end of the day the Cavs will draft him at 4th. And yay Walker at 5th! Yee-ha!

The Cavs have Val over Kanter... I would say the top 6 is 90% likely to happen.
So, say hello to Walker in a Raps uni.

phailing101 · Post #158 » by **phailing101** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:37 pm

McFurious1 wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Kanter at 6th spot? That's crazy. I don't care if he says he's joining wizards or declining interviews w/ teams...at the end of the day the Cavs will draft him at 4th. And yay Walker at 5th! Yee-ha!

The Cavs have Val over Kanter... I would say the top 6 is 90% likely to happen.
So, say hello to Walker in a Raps uni.

I would be surprised if BC passes on a C prospect in favor of a career 6th man prospect.

Plus I don't beloved Cleveland will take Val over Kanter. There is little logic behind that after his workouts and measurements

McFurious1 · Post #159 » by **McFurious1** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:43 pm

^ I dont think it's hard to believe at all... just like how we like Val over Kanter so do the Cavs.
When the Raps pick both Val and Knight will be gone and BC will have a choice at a player who wants no part of our team (Kanter) and Walker.

fredericklove · Post #160 » by **fredericklove** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:12 pm

McFurious1 wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Kanter at 6th spot? That's crazy. I don't care if he says he's joining wizards or declining interviews w/ teams...at the end of the day the Cavs will draft him at 4th. And yay Walker at 5th! Yee-ha!

The Cavs have Val over Kanter... I would say the top 6 is 90% likely to happen.
So, say hello to Walker in a Raps uni.

But u sure cavs can wait for val and his contract oversea? Wouldn't they rather get a guy who can come in and contribute right away especially having Irving who can probably contribute right away as well. They also have Varejao who plays the 5 spot, kanter wants to play 4 and val plays 5 too....see what I'm saying here. Hickson will be a good 6th man too.