Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Moderators: Morris_Shatford, 7 Footer, DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
Chandan
- RealGM
- Posts: 18,350
- And1: 22,015
- Joined: Nov 23, 2017
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Traded our most efficient offensive player for a 34 year old center who is shooting 44% on the season.

Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- Clementine9
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,573
- And1: 26,005
- Joined: Aug 02, 2012
- Location: My mom's basement doing analytics
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
Re: Please post of you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
TheAlchemist
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,978
- And1: 8,709
- Joined: Apr 06, 2010
-
Re: Please post of you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
MEDIC wrote:Hero wrote:This is some spin. he battled and gave so much to the Raptors for charity?MEDIC wrote:Gotta be hard for a guy like JV who had given so much over the years. Battled & worked his azz off to try to get this franchise over the hump. He's finally gets to be on a roster that has a good chance to make it to the NBA final after 7 years of putting work in & he gets shipped to a bottom dweller.
If Derozan thinks they did him dirty.........look at JV's situation now & be thankful.
He was getting overpaid at 17 mil a season for a limited bench role. It's not like he was making a low amount and overperforming. He wasn't.
What does this have to do with money?
Any professional......no matter what industry wants to be in a successful situation.
Some of you act like the only reason we live & breathe is to make money.
Medic,
I totally understand that yeah, it must be hard for Jonas. But on the contrary, I think what Hero is saying is, hey, Jonas has been paid a decent sum of cash, especially since his type of player is devalued in our league today, and he has not produced the same.
Quite frankly I used to love Jonas, but man, has he been underwhelming. He was a severe defensive liability at times, and It was really really hard to play him in lineups outside of a lanky bigs like a Drummond, or Embiid.
Now we get the best of both worlds.
Also, it's not like Jonas tried to take the responsibility of leading the Raptors to the finals. He was a byproduct of the organization.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
omar36
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,572
- And1: 4,708
- Joined: Aug 30, 2014
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
a healthy and motivated gasol will be great. im happy with this trade. jonas or delon arent part of the young core if we rebuild anyways.
all we gave up is a 2024 2nd pick,
this was a great low risk/high reward move.
all we gave up is a 2024 2nd pick,
this was a great low risk/high reward move.

Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- peralta
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,402
- And1: 894
- Joined: Apr 02, 2007
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
its a good trade...Gasol will be motivated as well

Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
vesku888
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,518
- And1: 6,201
- Joined: Feb 02, 2018
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
BDDray420 wrote:I don't understand why we trade players who WANT to be here. Gasol has been crap all season and is clearly declining. Meanwhile JV is producing at his normal rate in FEWER minutes.
Wanting to be here and producing in the clutch are entirely different things. Demar wanted to be here, and he was benched in game 3. Jonas wanted to be here, and he missed about 6 or 7 bunnies in game 1 against Cleveland that changed the entire complexion of that series. Listen I like JV, but we got a better player and we are looking to make a splash in the playoffs THIS year.
I feel like people here don't mind being Barney's in the playoffs and a long term treadmill because of the loyalty of some players.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- Clementine9
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,573
- And1: 26,005
- Joined: Aug 02, 2012
- Location: My mom's basement doing analytics
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
vesku888 wrote:BDDray420 wrote:I don't understand why we trade players who WANT to be here. Gasol has been crap all season and is clearly declining. Meanwhile JV is producing at his normal rate in FEWER minutes.
Wanting to be here and producing in the clutch are entirely different things. Demar wanted to be here, and he was benched in game 3. Jonas wanted to be here, and he missed about 6 or 7 bunnies in game 1 against Cleveland that changed the entire complexion of that series. Listen I like JV, but we got a better player and we are looking to make a splash in the playoffs THIS year.
I feel like people here don't mind being Barney's in the playoffs and a long term treadmill because of the loyalty of some players.
Clementine9 wrote:Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- TdotRap4Lyfe
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,885
- And1: 5,079
- Joined: Feb 02, 2013
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
I'm not mad. But I feel this is a lateral move. I'd still rather have kept Delon over Fred.

Credits to Jstock12
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- wow09
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,445
- And1: 2,622
- Joined: Mar 10, 2010
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
I love Gasol I just don't understand improving a position that was probably already the strongest on the team.
Would you rather have Ibaka and Gasol or Ibaka + JV and someone like Mirotic.
Would you rather have Ibaka and Gasol or Ibaka + JV and someone like Mirotic.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
vesku888
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,518
- And1: 6,201
- Joined: Feb 02, 2018
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Clementine9 wrote:vesku888 wrote:BDDray420 wrote:I don't understand why we trade players who WANT to be here. Gasol has been crap all season and is clearly declining. Meanwhile JV is producing at his normal rate in FEWER minutes.
Wanting to be here and producing in the clutch are entirely different things. Demar wanted to be here, and he was benched in game 3. Jonas wanted to be here, and he missed about 6 or 7 bunnies in game 1 against Cleveland that changed the entire complexion of that series. Listen I like JV, but we got a better player and we are looking to make a splash in the playoffs THIS year.
I feel like people here don't mind being Barney's in the playoffs and a long term treadmill because of the loyalty of some players.Clementine9 wrote:Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Is it hard to just put their **** ng names? Like are you trying to be sly or something.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
NY 567
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,237
- And1: 7,438
- Joined: Dec 18, 2016
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Great trade for you guys. Gasol is 27th in RPM, plays defense, and can score and make plays when it matters most. If your goal is to genuinely compete for a championship within these next couple of years, Gasol over JV is a complete no brainer.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- Clementine9
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,573
- And1: 26,005
- Joined: Aug 02, 2012
- Location: My mom's basement doing analytics
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
NY 567 wrote:Great trade for you guys. Gasol is 27th in RPM, plays defense, and can score and make plays when it matters most. If your goal is the genuinely compete for a championship within these next couple of years, Gasol over JV is a complete no brainer.
Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- hst420
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 778
- And1: 446
- Joined: Jul 18, 2012
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
The fact Gasol can step out and hit the three, post-up, and play make with a high bball IQ those passing skills makes this team more dynamic offensively. They're a better team with a C like Gasol, as much as I love JV. Plus I've noticed Gasol has a quick release, tough to contest those shots.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
goinrogue
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,386
- And1: 3,329
- Joined: Oct 17, 2010
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
I feel like some people here don’t understand how much of a liability JV can be on defence. It’s actually a little embarrassing to read all the posts about who is going to start, serge or gasol? Marc is one of the best defenders in the NBA. He has more talent in his pinky toe than Serge could ever dream
of having.
of having.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- Clementine9
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,573
- And1: 26,005
- Joined: Aug 02, 2012
- Location: My mom's basement doing analytics
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
goinrogue wrote:I feel like some people here don’t understand how much of a liability JV can be on defence. It’s actually a little embarrassing to read all the posts about who is going to start, serge or gasol? Marc is one of the best defenders in the NBA. He has more talent in his pinky toe than Serge could ever dream
of having.
Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- GP2
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,191
- And1: 5,290
- Joined: Jun 17, 2008
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
I'm coming around on the trade. I think Marc was going through the motions a bit this season and I hope to see him rejuvenated when coming here and battling in the East.
Delon was expiring and it was hard to see us retaining him (although I prefer him over FVV). CJ...c ya.
JV though...he will be sorely missed. What a great guy.
Delon was expiring and it was hard to see us retaining him (although I prefer him over FVV). CJ...c ya.
JV though...he will be sorely missed. What a great guy.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- Johnny Bball
- RealGM
- Posts: 55,005
- And1: 59,393
- Joined: Feb 01, 2015
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
And this is why they are called insufferable.
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
- Rapsobsessed7
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,631
- And1: 4,590
- Joined: May 11, 2008
-
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Clementine9 wrote:goinrogue wrote:I feel like some people here don’t understand how much of a liability JV can be on defence. It’s actually a little embarrassing to read all the posts about who is going to start, serge or gasol? Marc is one of the best defenders in the NBA. He has more talent in his pinky toe than Serge could ever dream
of having.
Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Bud. How many times are you going to post the same thing? We get it, we saw it the first 5 times you posted it.
Canadafan wrote:Bojan Burks Stewart for Siakam.
2 expiring vets that help now. A young big to add to the Scottie timeline
I'd prefer to keep Stew and give Monte Morris
I'd really prefer to keep Morris and Stew and give the great Killian Hayes and 2nd round picks
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
vesku888
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,518
- And1: 6,201
- Joined: Feb 02, 2018
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Johnny Bball wrote:And this is why they are called insufferable.
Clementine9 takes insufferable to a whole new level. Makes Boogie look tolerable
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
-
mademan
- RealGM
- Posts: 32,064
- And1: 31,152
- Joined: Feb 18, 2010
Re: Please post if you are UNHAPPY with the GASOL TRADE!
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Clementine9 wrote:goinrogue wrote:I feel like some people here don’t understand how much of a liability JV can be on defence. It’s actually a little embarrassing to read all the posts about who is going to start, serge or gasol? Marc is one of the best defenders in the NBA. He has more talent in his pinky toe than Serge could ever dream
of having.
Player 1:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 104.3
DEFRTG: 105
TS%: 54%
EFG%: 49.9%
Reb%: 13.1%
AST%: 23.2%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: +.3%
3pt Diff: +3.1%
Greater than 15ft: -1.3%
2 Pointers: -1.7%
Less than 10 ft: -2.6%
Less than 6ft: -3.4%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 61.7%
Player 2:
Offense + Rebounding
OFFRTG: 106.7
DEFRTG: 101.3
TS%: 63.9%
EFG%: 59.3%
Reb%: 18%
AST%: 8.4%
Defensive
Opponent %s (positive is worse)
Overall: -5.1%
3pt Diff: -8.7%
Greater than 15ft: 2.2%
2 Pointers: -7.0%
Less than 10 ft: -9.9%
Less than 6ft: -15.7%
DFG% at rim (lower is better): 48.9%
Bud. How many times are you going to post the same thing? We get it, we saw it the first 5 times you posted it.
Dude thinks that JV having good defensive stats for 30 games in 18 mpg is somehow gonna make everybody forget he's been (at best) below average defensively his entire career.












