Official 2019 Offseason Training Thread (Update: New Pascal Footage)

[ATLTimekeeper]

It needs to be said it's worthless to analyze mistakes in these runs. These are just game speed workouts, and nothing more. You can see some skills that may have developed or previously not been evident in NBA play, but that's about all it's good for. I can see people here already overrating these Rico Hines runs because Pascal showed well in them last year, but as stated by someone else there were clips of him struggling against guys like Chris Copeland (might have gotten the wrong guy, but a scrub nonetheless). Pascal was also launching 3s nonstop the previous year in 1am workouts throughout the season. He was always working on his game, and the improvements just presented themselves in these runs, making people think that Hines had brought it out of him.

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not. If OG is as hard a worker as everyone around him claims, he's working at getting better in a private setting. If Stan Johnson is ****ing up, who cares? He locked up Kawhi Leonard last year. That's what he's proven he can do in the NBA. Getting torched a few times by Jordan Crawford in a loosey-goosey summer run has no connection to what he'll do in the NBA.

[Anatomize]

It needs to be said it's worthless to analyze mistakes in these runs. These are just game speed workouts, and nothing more. You can see some skills that may have developed or previously not been evident in NBA play, but that's about all it's good for. I can see people here already overrating these Rico Hines runs because Pascal showed well in them last year, but as stated by someone else there were clips of him struggling against guys like Chris Copeland (might have gotten the wrong guy, but a scrub nonetheless). Pascal was also launching 3s nonstop the previous year in 1am workouts throughout the season. He was always working on his game, and the improvements just presented themselves in these runs, making people think that Hines had brought it out of him.

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not. If OG is as hard a worker as everyone around him claims, he's working at getting better in a private setting. If Stan Johnson is ****ing up, who cares? He locked up Kawhi Leonard last year. That's what he's proven he can do in the NBA. Getting torched a few times by Jordan Crawford in a loosey-goosey summer run has no connection to what he'll do in the NBA.

I don’t care for the offseason runs much, but I look for cues and contrasts. I see Trae effortlessly dominate, I see SJ not showing anything new. Pascal in his Rico runs showed a much improved handle and confidence in his jumpshot, he was taking guys in the post and off the dribble, SJ in two runs now has shown nothing, I don’t care because it’s not the regular season, but he should have a chip on his shoulder - it doesn’t look promising.

[ATLTimekeeper]

It needs to be said it's worthless to analyze mistakes in these runs. These are just game speed workouts, and nothing more. You can see some skills that may have developed or previously not been evident in NBA play, but that's about all it's good for. I can see people here already overrating these Rico Hines runs because Pascal showed well in them last year, but as stated by someone else there were clips of him struggling against guys like Chris Copeland (might have gotten the wrong guy, but a scrub nonetheless). Pascal was also launching 3s nonstop the previous year in 1am workouts throughout the season. He was always working on his game, and the improvements just presented themselves in these runs, making people think that Hines had brought it out of him.

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not. If OG is as hard a worker as everyone around him claims, he's working at getting better in a private setting. If Stan Johnson is ****ing up, who cares? He locked up Kawhi Leonard last year. That's what he's proven he can do in the NBA. Getting torched a few times by Jordan Crawford in a loosey-goosey summer run has no connection to what he'll do in the NBA.

I don’t care for the offseason runs much, but I look for cues and contrasts. I see Trae effortlessly dominate, I see SJ not showing anything new. Pascal in his Rico runs showed a much improved handle and confidence in his jumpshot, he was taking guys in the post and off the dribble, SJ in two runs now has shown nothing, I don’t care because it’s not the regular season, but he should have a chip on his shoulder - it doesn’t look promising.

That's your own projection. Two runs! That's exactly the point. He's out there working, his chip is there for you to see.

[And1Skip]

[Anatomize]

It needs to be said it's worthless to analyze mistakes in these runs. These are just game speed workouts, and nothing more. You can see some skills that may have developed or previously not been evident in NBA play, but that's about all it's good for. I can see people here already overrating these Rico Hines runs because Pascal showed well in them last year, but as stated by someone else there were clips of him struggling against guys like Chris Copeland (might have gotten the wrong guy, but a scrub nonetheless). Pascal was also launching 3s nonstop the previous year in 1am workouts throughout the season. He was always working on his game, and the improvements just presented themselves in these runs, making people think that Hines had brought it out of him.

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not. If OG is as hard a worker as everyone around him claims, he's working at getting better in a private setting. If Stan Johnson is ****ing up, who cares? He locked up Kawhi Leonard last year. That's what he's proven he can do in the NBA. Getting torched a few times by Jordan Crawford in a loosey-goosey summer run has no connection to what he'll do in the NBA.

I don’t care for the offseason runs much, but I look for cues and contrasts. I see Trae effortlessly dominate, I see SJ not showing anything new. Pascal in his Rico runs showed a much improved handle and confidence in his jumpshot, he was taking guys in the post and off the dribble, SJ in two runs now has shown nothing, I don’t care because it’s not the regular season, but he should have a chip on his shoulder - it doesn’t look promising.

That's your own projection. Two runs! That's exactly the point. He's out there working, his chip is there for you to see.

DeMar in every offseason run showed more and more dominance in every game. This is a lax pickup and he has brain farts. This isn’t even summer league level competition, you have Aaron afflalo and bobby brown doing whatever they want, Jordan Crawford, guys who are not even in the league. Show me a new and improved handle, show you want to attack as soon as you get the ball. Show signs of life. Nurse has a lot of work to do to get him turned around, he’s had a horrible
NBA career on the offensive end. I’m one of his biggest proponents, check the Stanley signed thread.

[And1Skip]

[RL82]

In the end of the latest Rico Hines video he talks about how Raptors are bringing 2 teams to his runs in a couple of weeks.

So should be fun to watch

[MixxSRC]

damn Stanley is reminding me so much of Derozan.

[And1Skip]

Rico Hines working with Pascal this morning on ball handling, step-back, and building that muscle memory for above-the-break 3's.

https://storiesig.com/stories/ricohinesbball

[Bruin]

Stanley actually looks intriguing here. I said it before and I’ll say it again. I wouldn’t be surprised if he beats out norm to start at the 2

[DonDoolie]

Stanley Johnson sucks at everything basketball related other than defence. Shot is broken, dribbles are worse than OGs dribbling, can’t pass. Don’t expect anything from this dude. Hollis Jefferson is the intriguing pickup with potential.

[Lukeem]

damn Stanley is reminding me so much of Derozan.

The way he has played great D and doesn’t score ?

[MixxSRC]

damn Stanley is reminding me so much of Derozan.

The way he has played great D and doesn’t score ?

Exactly that

[tecumseh18]

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not.

This is a crucially important truism. For example, after Serge had a miserable 2017-2018 season, who would have guessed that he was putting in work all last summer, coming back in amazing shape and with a butter-ish mid-range game? Unfortunately, he lost his ~40% 3-pointer in the process, but hopefully he'll correct that this summer.

And last season wasn't even a contract year for Serge, but this upcoming season is. His IG and twitter was full of vacay pics for the last month, but it's radio silence now. Can't wait to see what he's cooking up basketball-wise. There's nobody who gets more frustrated with his dumb fouls, etc than I do. But Serge is the emotional heart of this team. If he Fred and Kyle can just keep pounding that PnR to death and some of the other guys can score on the kickouts at a high percentage, we'll all be like "Kawhi who?"

[And1Skip]

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not.

This is a crucially important truism. For example, after Serge had a miserable 2017-2018 season, who would have guessed that he was putting in work all last summer, coming back in amazing shape and with a butter-ish mid-range game? Unfortunately, he lost his ~40% 3-pointer in the process, but hopefully he'll correct that this summer.

And last season wasn't even a contract year for Serge, but this upcoming season is. His IG and twitter was full of vacay pics for the last month, but it's radio silence now. Can't wait to see what he's cooking up basketball-wise. There's nobody who gets more frustrated with his dumb fouls, etc than I do. But Serge is the emotional heart of this team. If he Fred and Kyle can just keep pounding that PnR to death and some of the other guys can score on the kickouts at a high percentage, we'll all be like "Kawhi who?"

There were sprinkles of him in his IG last week working out in Spain with his trainer (Hugo I think his name is)

[lebron stopper]

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not.

This is a crucially important truism. For example, after Serge had a miserable 2017-2018 season, who would have guessed that he was putting in work all last summer, coming back in amazing shape and with a butter-ish mid-range game? Unfortunately, he lost his ~40% 3-pointer in the process, but hopefully he'll correct that this summer.

And last season wasn't even a contract year for Serge, but this upcoming season is. His IG and twitter was full of vacay pics for the last month, but it's radio silence now. Can't wait to see what he's cooking up basketball-wise. There's nobody who gets more frustrated with his dumb fouls, etc than I do. But Serge is the emotional heart of this team. If he Fred and Kyle can just keep pounding that PnR to death and some of the other guys can score on the kickouts at a high percentage, we'll all be like "Kawhi who?"

1. Ibaka was always an amazing mid-range shooter, which is what made OKC coaching staff think that he could expand his range to the three-point line in the first place.

2. Ibaka isn't a three-point shooting threat and is very streaky from beyond the arc. He's far more consistent shooting from mid-range.

Don't hold your breath for Ibaka turning into a lights-out three-point gunner again. 40% three-point shooter? He was a career 36.7% shooter coming into last season and is now at 35.7% on three-pointers in his career. And while Ibaka's not going to shoot 70% on long 2s for a whole season, career 48% on mid-range shots and career 46% on long 2s are still incredible figures on non-paint 2s, especially in an era where teams defend the mid-range area less than before to sell out on defending the paint and the three-point line.

[HeadtopChunes]

Every player is doing something to get better, whether it's publicly available or not.

This is a crucially important truism. For example, after Serge had a miserable 2017-2018 season, who would have guessed that he was putting in work all last summer, coming back in amazing shape and with a butter-ish mid-range game? Unfortunately, he lost his ~40% 3-pointer in the process, but hopefully he'll correct that this summer.

And last season wasn't even a contract year for Serge, but this upcoming season is. His IG and twitter was full of vacay pics for the last month, but it's radio silence now. Can't wait to see what he's cooking up basketball-wise. There's nobody who gets more frustrated with his dumb fouls, etc than I do. But Serge is the emotional heart of this team. If he Fred and Kyle can just keep pounding that PnR to death and some of the other guys can score on the kickouts at a high percentage, we'll all be like "Kawhi who?"

1. Ibaka was always an amazing mid-range shooter, which is what made OKC coaching staff think that he could expand his range to the three-point line in the first place.

2. Ibaka isn't a three-point shooting threat and is very streaky from beyond the arc. He's far more consistent shooting from mid-range.

Don't hold your breath for Ibaka turning into a lights-out three-point gunner again. 40% three-point shooter? He was a career 36.7% shooter coming into last season and is now at 35.7% on three-pointers in his career. And while Ibaka's not going to shoot 70% on long 2s for a whole season, career 48% on mid-range shots and career 46% on long 2s are still incredible figures on non-paint 2s, especially in an era where teams defend the mid-range area less than before to sell out on defending the paint and the three-point line.

He is a better 3pt shooter than last year tho which was uncharacteristically bad for him

I dont think its crazy to think he will shoot close to his career numbers from 3pt range again

although 40% is a bit too much

[tecumseh18]

1. Ibaka was always an amazing mid-range shooter, which is what made OKC coaching staff think that he could expand his range to the three-point line in the first place.

2. Ibaka isn't a three-point shooting threat and is very streaky from beyond the arc. He's far more consistent shooting from mid-range.

Don't hold your breath for Ibaka turning into a lights-out three-point gunner again. 40% three-point shooter? He was a career 36.7% shooter coming into last season and is now at 35.7% on three-pointers in his career. And while Ibaka's not going to shoot 70% on long 2s for a whole season, career 48% on mid-range shots and career 46% on long 2s are still incredible figures on non-paint 2s, especially in an era where teams defend the mid-range area less than before to sell out on defending the paint and the three-point line.

I didn't follow his career at OKC, but I've never seen anyone shoot the way Serge did to start this past season - especially the Lakers/Kings B2B (I think it was) where he was nearly perfect for two games. It was clearly something he worked on last summer. But maybe playing with a volume iso superstar disrupted Ibaka's rhythm as the season wore on.

The season he was traded to the Raps, Serge had been shooting 38.8% with the Magic, and shot 39.8% to finish the season with the Raps. That's where the "legend" of Serge as a ~40% shooter came from. But then Casey must have told him to just stand out at the arc and shoot 3s, and Serge had a miserable following season. Jonas got all the pick and roll opportunities. Serge needs to be more active offensively to have maximum impact. The trick is not to let him handle the ball too much. PLEASE ... not too much.

[GordanFreeman]

Stanley Johnson sucks at everything basketball related other than defence. Shot is broken, dribbles are worse than OGs dribbling, can’t pass. Don’t expect anything from this dude. Hollis Jefferson is the intriguing pickup with potential.

You just described Rondae bruh. They're both pretty mediocre basketball players right now.

[Raptors_128]

Rico Hines working with Pascal this morning on ball handling, step-back, and building that muscle memory for above-the-break 3's.

https://storiesig.com/stories/ricohinesbball

Damn, my boy is working on everything. Pull-up 3s, jumpers off-the-dribble, fade-away jumpers, etc. Looks KD-esque.