ImageImageImageImageImage

Patrick McCaw Apology Thread

Moderators: Morris_Shatford, 7 Footer, DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX

User avatar
duppyy
RealGM
Posts: 19,341
And1: 13,859
Joined: Aug 04, 2004
Location: ???????, ??????
       

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#141 » by duppyy » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:26 pm

Can we lock this terrible thread. 3 threads on the front page for a srcub.
djsunyc
RealGM
Posts: 100,162
And1: 74,043
Joined: Dec 28, 2003

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#142 » by djsunyc » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:25 pm

nWo and tWo ain't got sh t on the mWo!
User avatar
LoveMyRaps
RealGM
Posts: 29,636
And1: 49,971
Joined: Jun 10, 2013
       

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#143 » by LoveMyRaps » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:29 pm

This thread pisses me the f*** off.
In Masai We Trust :meditate:
Image
Clementine64
Starter
Posts: 2,032
And1: 2,523
Joined: Jan 04, 2017

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#144 » by Clementine64 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:36 pm

I apologize for giving u the benefit of the doubt

Sent from my SM-G970W using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
duppyy
RealGM
Posts: 19,341
And1: 13,859
Joined: Aug 04, 2004
Location: ???????, ??????
       

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#145 » by duppyy » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:46 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:This thread pisses me the f*** off.


Read the first few pages if you want to a have a good laugh.
GreatWhiteStiff
RealGM
Posts: 15,265
And1: 12,684
Joined: Oct 17, 2011
Location: Overusing finna
 

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#146 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:56 pm

djsunyc wrote:nWo and tWo ain't got sh t on the mWo!


Intro music plays

Image

Image
Image

Let's playin for 9th!

"OG puts the clamps on point guards like Trae Young." -DelAbbot
User avatar
dTox
RealGM
Posts: 16,251
And1: 17,406
Joined: Jan 26, 2007
Location: Basement
   

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#147 » by dTox » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:08 pm

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:I laugh at the argument that playing for the Warriors proves McCaw is a valuable player.

You could've slotted me next to Steph, Klay, Dray, and Durant and they would still be a 60+ win team.

Now that I think of it, McCaw's numbers on the GSW were even more underwhelming considering he played next to 3 HOFers. This season he's averaging 7 more MPG than with the Warriors yet he's still averaging 4 PPG. Dude is a complete liability on offense. Unlike GSW, the Raptors can't afford to play -1 on offense for 48 minutes every game.

you'll never understand mccaw's value if all you do is watch boxscores.


What?!?
Image
FREE PALESTINE
alienchild
RealGM
Posts: 10,473
And1: 17,191
Joined: Jan 05, 2012

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#148 » by alienchild » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:25 pm

dTox wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:I laugh at the argument that playing for the Warriors proves McCaw is a valuable player.

You could've slotted me next to Steph, Klay, Dray, and Durant and they would still be a 60+ win team.

Now that I think of it, McCaw's numbers on the GSW were even more underwhelming considering he played next to 3 HOFers. This season he's averaging 7 more MPG than with the Warriors yet he's still averaging 4 PPG. Dude is a complete liability on offense. Unlike GSW, the Raptors can't afford to play -1 on offense for 48 minutes every game.

you'll never understand mccaw's value if all you do is watch boxscores.


What?!?


Akela is right. The rabble have decided to pick on McCaw, because they don't know any better and feel they're entitled to a perfect season and anything that get's in their way is an affront to their overblown ego's. All they are proving is their lack of knowledge about the game. They're not the GM, not the coach, but they certainly think they know better than the professionals.
Everybody is losing their freaking minds. Nutbars and wingnuts have infested this forum. We've become a public lavatory without cleaning staff.
User avatar
J-Roc
RealGM
Posts: 33,150
And1: 7,550
Joined: Aug 02, 2008
Location: Sunnyvale
       

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#149 » by J-Roc » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:28 pm

alienchild wrote:
dTox wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:you'll never understand mccaw's value if all you do is watch boxscores.


What?!?


Akela is right. The rabble have decided to pick on McCaw, because they don't know any better and feel they're entitled to a perfect season and anything that get's in their way is an affront to their overblown ego's. All they are proving is their lack of knowledge about the game. They're not the GM, not the coach, but they certainly think they know better that the professionals.


And they change their mind game to game.

Terence Davis wasn't about to bring the ball up the court against pressure. But today we pretend he would have.
User avatar
dTox
RealGM
Posts: 16,251
And1: 17,406
Joined: Jan 26, 2007
Location: Basement
   

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#150 » by dTox » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:46 pm

J-Roc wrote:
alienchild wrote:
dTox wrote:
What?!?


Akela is right. The rabble have decided to pick on McCaw, because they don't know any better and feel they're entitled to a perfect season and anything that get's in their way is an affront to their overblown ego's. All they are proving is their lack of knowledge about the game. They're not the GM, not the coach, but they certainly think they know better that the professionals.


And they change their mind game to game.

Terence Davis wasn't about to bring the ball up the court against pressure. But today we pretend he would have.


what are you guys talking about, there's no statistical number that points favourably for McCaw continuing to play, stop pointing to narratives. And most of this board has been against McCaw so many minutes for a long time, not game to game.
Image
FREE PALESTINE
alienchild
RealGM
Posts: 10,473
And1: 17,191
Joined: Jan 05, 2012

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#151 » by alienchild » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:51 pm

dTox wrote:
J-Roc wrote:
alienchild wrote:
Akela is right. The rabble have decided to pick on McCaw, because they don't know any better and feel they're entitled to a perfect season and anything that get's in their way is an affront to their overblown ego's. All they are proving is their lack of knowledge about the game. They're not the GM, not the coach, but they certainly think they know better that the professionals.


And they change their mind game to game.

Terence Davis wasn't about to bring the ball up the court against pressure. But today we pretend he would have.


what are you guys talking about, there's no statistical number that points favourably for McCaw continuing to play, stop pointing to narratives. And most of this board has been against McCaw so many minutes for a long time, not game to game.


Most of this board are bandwaggoners getting seduced by the madness of crowds.
Everybody is losing their freaking minds. Nutbars and wingnuts have infested this forum. We've become a public lavatory without cleaning staff.
User avatar
J-Roc
RealGM
Posts: 33,150
And1: 7,550
Joined: Aug 02, 2008
Location: Sunnyvale
       

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#152 » by J-Roc » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:53 pm

dTox wrote:
J-Roc wrote:
alienchild wrote:
Akela is right. The rabble have decided to pick on McCaw, because they don't know any better and feel they're entitled to a perfect season and anything that get's in their way is an affront to their overblown ego's. All they are proving is their lack of knowledge about the game. They're not the GM, not the coach, but they certainly think they know better that the professionals.


And they change their mind game to game.

Terence Davis wasn't about to bring the ball up the court against pressure. But today we pretend he would have.


what are you guys talking about, there's no statistical number that points favourably for McCaw continuing to play, stop pointing to narratives. And most of this board has been against McCaw so many minutes for a long time, not game to game.


Statistically we're waiting for Fred to return.
User avatar
dTox
RealGM
Posts: 16,251
And1: 17,406
Joined: Jan 26, 2007
Location: Basement
   

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#153 » by dTox » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:15 pm

alienchild wrote:
dTox wrote:
J-Roc wrote:
And they change their mind game to game.

Terence Davis wasn't about to bring the ball up the court against pressure. But today we pretend he would have.


what are you guys talking about, there's no statistical number that points favourably for McCaw continuing to play, stop pointing to narratives. And most of this board has been against McCaw so many minutes for a long time, not game to game.


Most of this board are bandwaggoners getting seduced by the madness of crowds.


strong argument there
Image
FREE PALESTINE
User avatar
everdiso
General Manager
Posts: 7,885
And1: 10,275
Joined: Nov 18, 2008

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#154 » by everdiso » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:36 pm

Image

The starters are all good to very good.

For the first time in his career, Norm has played himself into legit rotation quality. 538's Raptor rating still has him slightly negative, but barely, and that's probably just a lagging indicator anyway. He's finally deserving of these kinds of legit rotation minutes so good for him.

Ibaka is having one of his worst years impact wise. Not time to give up on him yet but it's a real concern and his minutes should probably be cut in the meantime.

McCaw? He's an outright disaster. No way he should be in any team's main rotation, let alone on a contender's. He's a 12th man at best on this team, though there's a decent chance some of the extra players could outplay him too. It's really too bad that nurse is overplaying him this badly.

RHJ is being used just about perfectly. Thriving in real rotation role but not being overplayed and having his limitations exposed.

Meanwhile, both Davis and Boucher are dominating their limited minutes in a huge way, and the team would benefit from giving both of them more minutes - even significantly more minutes.

Thomas in the exact role he's made for, and doing well.


Overall, there is no clearer change that would improve the team more than swapping McCaw and davis' roles....and tbh McCaw shouldn't even get a role as big as davis has had so far.

There is also good argument to give a bigger chunk of ibaka's minutes to Boucher, too.
"I wasn't gonna act surprised - cuz I wasn't surprised."
spicy4MVP
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,635
And1: 1,963
Joined: Apr 23, 2015

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#155 » by spicy4MVP » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:59 am

so who is going to apologize to Mccaw after tonight?
kid had a steal and 3 blocks and no turnovers on a perfect shooting night, meanwhile his "forum favorite" Davis didn't contribute a single point, steal or a block on defensive end, had 2 turnovers in just 10 minutes and chucked 2 shots and ended with -6. Only Siakam had more turnovers than Davis.
You're all too quick to judge the kid, he's an ace. In Nurse, we trust.
Randle McMurphy
RealGM
Posts: 41,530
And1: 22,594
Joined: Dec 07, 2009

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#156 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:46 am

spicy4MVP wrote:so who is going to apologize to Mccaw after tonight?
kid had a steal and 3 blocks and no turnovers on a perfect shooting night, meanwhile his "forum favorite" Davis didn't contribute a single point, steal or a block on defensive end, had 2 turnovers in just 10 minutes and chucked 2 shots and ended with -6. Only Siakam had more turnovers than Davis.
You're all too quick to judge the kid, he's an ace. In Nurse, we trust.

lol he's been one of the worst players in the league all season, so bad that we've reached the point where even a 2 point game is being treated as some kind of redemption
One flew east, one flew west, one flew over the cuckoo’s nest.
Basketball_Jones
RealGM
Posts: 30,677
And1: 17,974
Joined: Mar 09, 2004
     

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#157 » by Basketball_Jones » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:56 am

Just as I suspected. Fred back and now Davis is buried on the bench. 20 mpg for this scrub to jog up and down the floor and do nothing it’s the freakin twilight zone
2019 Eastern Conference All Stars

Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid

There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
mdenny
General Manager
Posts: 7,558
And1: 7,307
Joined: Jul 05, 2019
         

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#158 » by mdenny » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:28 am

alienchild wrote:
dTox wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:you'll never understand mccaw's value if all you do is watch boxscores.


What?!?


Akela is right. The rabble have decided to pick on McCaw, because they don't know any better and feel they're entitled to a perfect season and anything that get's in their way is an affront to their overblown ego's. All they are proving is their lack of knowledge about the game. They're not the GM, not the coach, but they certainly think they know better than the professionals.



This is so simple but seems above the head of so many Toronto ball fans. TD makes alot of plays and alot of mistakes. McCaw makes very few plays but almost no mistakes. For a third guard on a team with Lowry and FVV.....McCaw's low risk play is what's needed. If you want to construct the most versatile 10 player rotation out of our squad.....TD's best qualities are relatively redundant compared to McCaw. Patrick provides length on the perimeter and a low-risk, low-yield steady hand. TD just makes way too many mistakes in running our schemes. The other players are constantly reminding him of this. You very rarely see other players have to tell or remind McCaw of anything.

Obviously, TD has a higher long-term ceiling. But everyone might as well get used to it...because as things stand as they do now....we will see a steady dose of playoff McCaw with TD only getting heat check momentum type minutes. That's what's best for this team, this year.
Alfred
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,350
And1: 20,853
Joined: Jul 08, 2006
 

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#159 » by Alfred » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:26 pm

spicy4MVP wrote:so who is going to apologize to Mccaw after tonight?
kid had a steal and 3 blocks and no turnovers on a perfect shooting night, meanwhile his "forum favorite" Davis didn't contribute a single point, steal or a block on defensive end, had 2 turnovers in just 10 minutes and chucked 2 shots and ended with -6. Only Siakam had more turnovers than Davis.
You're all too quick to judge the kid, he's an ace. In Nurse, we trust.

Terence Davis just came off a game where he scored 23 points, had 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Patrick McCaw has had back to back 2 point games.

Am I taking crazy pills? McCaw does so little out there.
Image
User avatar
TheWave
Rookie
Posts: 1,125
And1: 800
Joined: Nov 21, 2019
   

Re: Patrick McCaw Apology Thread 

Post#160 » by TheWave » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:47 pm

dTox wrote:
alienchild wrote:
dTox wrote:
what are you guys talking about, there's no statistical number that points favourably for McCaw continuing to play, stop pointing to narratives. And most of this board has been against McCaw so many minutes for a long time, not game to game.


Most of this board are bandwaggoners getting seduced by the madness of crowds.


strong argument there




ad hominem

adjective
1 appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2 attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

Return to Toronto Raptors