WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG (Smh its just the Knicks)

Clutch0z24 · Post #141 » by **Clutch0z24** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:35 am

If OG wants out you have to trade him right now....If he doesn't want out hes a guy i want for the future here long term...

You really have to have a sit down meeting with OG and make him be honest with you about his future plans...

If he wants out hes a Free agent soon and if he pulls the stunt next year where league wide known hes moving on in free agency and has a certain place he wants to play in and the league behind the scenes know this it will derail any control Raptors will have in the trade market for OG and we will be forced to trade OG to whatever team he desires to play for rather than if we trade him now make it a bidding war and get the highest picks/package we can get.

Sadly this has to be explored if your Masai or your potentially screwing yourself.

blastttOFF · Post #142 » by **blastttOFF** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:49 am

Took me close to almost 3 hours to get home from the stupid snow, to refresh my page to see if there were trades yet lol still nothing

will · Post #143 » by **will** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:16 am

If the right deal comes along, everyone is liable to be dealt.

You think you girl ain't creeping around looking for other options? Right deal comes along, she's leaving your dumbass.

Merit · Post #144 » by **Merit** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:12 am

hyper316 wrote:
Merit wrote:
dgr81 wrote:after the KD drama this summer, Scottie is Masai's only untouchable

Scottie has proven to be untouchable this far.

I still think something’s coming. With utah talking about moving Beasley and the rumours earlier of them being interested in Gary Trent Jr., a three way trade with San Diego including Poeltl, Alexander Walker and Kelly olynyk or THT could make some sense. I feel as though Beasley himself could make some sense. While imperfect that trade in theory could solve all the raps biggest issues - a backup shooting big, shot creation and a starting big who can actually move their feet and block shots.

Consider a Scottie/THT/OG/Pascal/Poeltl lineup with Fred, Precious, and NAW available off the bench. We could still use a shooter if the raps opt for THT but I think he would look way better for us than for utah.

I've never been a fan of Fred, but THT starting over Fred is just crazy talk

I see how that read. I moreso meant that as the operation 69 lineup. I would definitely start Fred.

Fred/OG/Scottie/Pascal/Poeltl

NAW/THT/(OPJ)/Thad/Precious

That would be the rotation/depth chart, imo.

Merit · Post #145 » by **Merit** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:15 am

mtcan wrote:
Merit wrote:
mtcan wrote:Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!

Why so much love for Koloko? Agreed on Precious, but even he and Fred can be moved in the right deal imo. I do think Koloko is worth more to us right now than he is in trade.

I believe there is untapped potential with Koloko so too soon to give up on him. 2 years later...maybe I reconsider..

I hear you on rookie scale contracts and yes, Precious and Koloko are unlikely to be moved for the reasons you stated. With that said, they have less realized talent than Scottie, OG and pascal.

Mark_83 · Post #146 » by **Mark_83** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:41 am

If we're trading OG (which I don't want), I'm not moving him until the draft. I'm not trading OG for a bunch of late picks from playoff contenders. I'll trade him to a playoff wannabe during the draft for a high lottery pick. I prefer to keep OG and keep others, but at the very least I'd want one of Brandon Miller, Cam Whitmore, Jarace Walker, or a Thompson twin coming our way.

billy_hoyle · Post #147 » by **billy_hoyle** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:20 am

Mark_83 wrote:If we're trading OG (which I don't want), I'm not moving him until the draft. I'm not trading OG for a bunch of late picks from playoff contenders. I'll trade him to a playoff wannabe during the draft for a high lottery pick. I prefer to keep OG and keep others, but at the very least I'd want one of Brandon Miller, Cam Whitmore, Jarace Walker, or a Thompson twin coming our way.

You just named half the lottery. Can't you trade OG for the Lakers pick + Dyson/Herb/Trey and get your young prospect+ your guaranteed lottery pick + an outside shot at Wemby/Scoot.

That's my preference

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #148 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:03 am

MadDogSHWA wrote:Tankers are breaking out the lotion.

OG puts the lotion on its skin, or he's getting dealt to the Detroit Pistins.

Pointgod · Post #149 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:46 pm

So my guess was right. It was the Knicks that offered 3 first for OG.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2260345

God Squad · Post #150 » by **God Squad** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:49 pm

I'm not even a fan of these Knicks picks. They have the following. But some turn into second rounders if they don't convy by a certain point.
Mavs 23' - Top 10 prot
Pistons 23' - top 18 prot
Wizards 23' - top 14 prot

Bucks 25' - top 5 prot

Not the greatest.

God Squad · Post #151 » by **God Squad** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:51 pm

Pointgod wrote:So my guess was right. It was the Knicks that offered 3 first for OG.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2260345

Those of you that figured it was the Knicks were right. I'm just not a fan of those picks personally. even though its "3 FRP", they're not that desirable IMO. Too much protection on them for my liking.

Fairview4Life · Post #152 » by **Fairview4Life** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:54 pm

First round picks could be anywhere in the first round! Even #1!

*wait, sorry, I'm hearing that no, those picks are all basically ****.

douggood · Post #153 » by **douggood** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:59 pm

God Squad wrote:I'm not even a fan of these Knicks picks. They have the following. But a lot turn into second rounders if they don't convy by a certain point.
Mavs 23' - Top 10 prot
Pistons 23' - top 18 prot
Wizards 23' - top 14 prot

Bucks 25' - top 5 prot

Not the greatest.

also remember the knicks have 4 of their own picks. doesnt have just to be these 4 picks from other teams.

mavs is top 10 protected till 2025, probably will become a pick this year (currently 16th)

pistons pick goes down in protection, 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027;
probably becomes a pick by 2025, but again by 2027 you expect this to be a draft pick as well

wizards 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; again within 4 years you expect this to convey at some point.

buck 2025 pick is top4 protection and no roll over (one giannis injury season and it could get interesting)

God Squad · Post #154 » by **God Squad** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:04 pm

douggood wrote:
God Squad wrote:I'm not even a fan of these Knicks picks. They have the following. But a lot turn into second rounders if they don't convy by a certain point.
Mavs 23' - Top 10 prot
Pistons 23' - top 18 prot
Wizards 23' - top 14 prot

Bucks 25' - top 5 prot

Not the greatest.

also remember the knicks have 4 of their own picks. doesnt have just to be these 4 picks from other teams.

mavs is top 10 protected till 2025, probably will become a pick this year (currently 16th)

pistons pick goes down in protection, 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027;
probably becomes a pick by 2025, but again by 2027 you expect this to be a draft pick as well

wizards 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; again within 4 years you expect this to convey at some point.

buck 2025 pick is top4 protection and no roll over (one giannis injury season and it could get interesting)

Personally I like the Bucks 25' pick as a sleeper. Which 3 would you ask for in return for OG.

mtcan · Post #155 » by **mtcan** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:09 pm

Mark_83 wrote:If we're trading OG (which I don't want), I'm not moving him until the draft. I'm not trading OG for a bunch of late picks from playoff contenders. I'll trade him to a playoff wannabe during the draft for a high lottery pick. I prefer to keep OG and keep others, but at the very least I'd want one of Brandon Miller, Cam Whitmore, Jarace Walker, or a Thompson twin coming our way.

There is arguably more trade value now than waiting until the draft. Teams will value him higher if they can get him in time for the playoffs this season.

He will be essentially an expiring contract if you trade him at the draft and yes the return will be less.

No need to wait if he wants out

douggood · Post #156 » by **douggood** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:09 pm

God Squad wrote:
douggood wrote:
God Squad wrote:I'm not even a fan of these Knicks picks. They have the following. But a lot turn into second rounders if they don't convy by a certain point.
Mavs 23' - Top 10 prot
Pistons 23' - top 18 prot
Wizards 23' - top 14 prot

Bucks 25' - top 5 prot

Not the greatest.

also remember the knicks have 4 of their own picks. doesnt have just to be these 4 picks from other teams.

mavs is top 10 protected till 2025, probably will become a pick this year (currently 16th)

pistons pick goes down in protection, 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027;
probably becomes a pick by 2025, but again by 2027 you expect this to be a draft pick as well

wizards 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; again within 4 years you expect this to convey at some point.

buck 2025 pick is top4 protection and no roll over (one giannis injury season and it could get interesting)

Personally I like the Bucks 25' pick as a sleeper. Which 3 would you ask for in return for OG.

1 pick this year (knicks/mavs)
1 pistons/wizards
1 way in future knicks pick 28/29

God Squad · Post #157 » by **God Squad** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:16 pm

douggood wrote:
God Squad wrote:
douggood wrote:also remember the knicks have 4 of their own picks. doesnt have just to be these 4 picks from other teams.

mavs is top 10 protected till 2025, probably will become a pick this year (currently 16th)

pistons pick goes down in protection, 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027;
probably becomes a pick by 2025, but again by 2027 you expect this to be a draft pick as well

wizards 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; again within 4 years you expect this to convey at some point.

buck 2025 pick is top4 protection and no roll over (one giannis injury season and it could get interesting)

Personally I like the Bucks 25' pick as a sleeper. Which 3 would you ask for in return for OG.

1 pick this year (knicks/mavs)
1 pistons/wizards
1 way in future knicks pick 28/29

I like I like the Wizards pick more than the pistons. But honestly not a bad trade for the build once it's broken down and you can see the protections.

visionquest · Post #158 » by **visionquest** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:22 pm

The deal was probably fine with the Raptors but OG probably didnt like the team he was being sent to.

NotMyKawhi · Post #159 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:39 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:Pistons pick protected top 10 until 2026 and then turns into a 2nd
Wizards pick protected top 10 until 2026 and then turns into a 2nd
Mavs pick top 10 protected until 2025 and then turns into a 2nd.

From the knicks. I wouldn't mind it tbh bc I do think when all is said and done you'll get 3 late lottery picks or mid teen picks,

I'm right most of the time and ppl like to live in denial until the facts come out

Pointgod · Post #160 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:40 pm

God Squad wrote:
Pointgod wrote:So my guess was right. It was the Knicks that offered 3 first for OG.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2260345

Those of you that figured it was the Knicks were right. I'm just not a fan of those picks personally. even though its "3 FRP", they're not that desirable IMO. Too much protection on them for my liking.

I tend to think first round picks are overrated because they’re essentially anything you want them to be until you find out where the pick lands. The Pistons and Wizards picks might never convey, the Bucks and Dallas pick might get you decent starters/role players. Where it becomes interesting is the Knicks own picks. If you could get one or two of those unprotected along with one they they’re owned from another team plus another piece then that trade becomes interesting because the Knicks are an incompetent organization and if you push those picks far enough there’s probably a good probability one of them lands in the lottery.