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Rate the Dick Pick

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How do you feel about the Raps taking Gradey Dick #13

Love it
95
35%
Like it
120
45%
So so
36
13%
Don't like it
10
4%
Hate it
8
3%
 
Total votes: 269

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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#141 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:54 pm

Love the pick. Of the players that went after him only Podziemski at 19 appealed to me.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#142 » by billy_hoyle » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:55 pm

I like it.

Whitmore being there is the only other slider that I would maybe have picked. Sounds like injury concerns, so I get going with the other projected mid-10 slider.

I wanted Cason, and was expecting him after the Coulibaly pick, but someone from that top 10 slid (well two after the Jett pick).

I'm surprised it was Gradey that fell, but I'm also not convinced he will be an adequate defender. He might be, but he's pretty weak and doesn't look laterally quick. He is fairly athletic and isn't soft, so he might be able to hang. If he does the offensive skill set and ceiling (at his height) is inline with other guys that popped in this range (Herro, Booker, Mitchell, Klay).

I really like his game offensively, I'm just concerned about the D.

I think he has a high ceiling (elite secondary scorer).

His floor is decent too.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#143 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:57 pm

It will be interesting to see the Dick vs Hawkins Vs Bufkin vs George battle through the years....4 Guys i was pretty high on in this draft...Will be fun to see who becomes the best out of the 4.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#144 » by Kingsway_fan » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:22 pm

Duffman100 wrote:

Just a lot of potential here.

Already has solid counters to be chased off the line
Some sneaky hops
Makes great cuts and uses screens well
High release with very little movement in his lower half
Can put the ball on the floor a bit
Great size

Like this pick.


Awesome.. getting those Reggie Miller vibes, lol

Is he a sg in the NBA? On raptors?
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#145 » by Los_29 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:31 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:Majority of this board will talk themselves into ANYTHING the FO does so not surprised by the ratings.

I'm actually NOT one of the posters that selected "Hated It" -- but I did select I Don't Like It.

Doesn't mean I think Dick is trash and some scrub. His "value" is obvious, he's a shooter/floor spacer. He's basically a 6'8 Duncan Robinson, maybe as he adds more ballhandling that will be Huerter and that's not hate, those guys are "valuable" players to their teams because yes it's just a fact now that everyone needs shooting...and that's what this FO did, drafted for "need" which is more my gripe with the pick - a true not hating the playa lol but the game/FO. They made that decision and I just don't like their vision (or lack thereof) for the team as it seems they're constructed much of it on public opinion, not any real strategy of their own and they're missing golden opportunities for the sake of playing it safe and I can't get with that.

The hoard of apologists will blab about yesteryear and the same slow build up expecting lightening to strike twice because they seen the world's biggest fluke of a trade in Kawhi, now blindly believe there's some grand plan although literally the FO is changing their answers of what they're after by the press conference (Vision 6'9 abandoned, immediately brought in two 7 footers the very next year, we're drafting a Raptors type guy that defend, oh no ooops, we got some shooting bc we don't wanna admit OKC pulled the trigger on a trade we wouldn't do for the actual player we wanted: Cason Wallace). They're just floating whereever the wind takes them and basically now are beholden to mid-players like Fred & Pascal who will produce mid results for the foreseeable future.

What they're doing is literally a giant waste of time, so I won't be tuning much until there's a MAJOR change (period) whether that's the players or the FO. The outcome is just way too predictable over the next 3-4 years IF they do just "run it back" with Gradey & some other minor pieces around the fringes as is very likely the case now -- it will be good REGULAR season record, quick Playoff elimination (rd 1 or 2 - they won't sniff a Conference Finals). They just wanna play it safe and make sure they even make it that far because of course MLSE wants that $, and instead of planning for the future with some short term pain to take more of a gamble on guys like Whitmore or Bufkin to become the 2nd option scorer that is ACTUALLY needed long term (or flipping either of OG or Pascal for players with higher potentials than their own) they continue to squander opportunity for real chance at growth & sacrifice it (yet again) for short term gain just to stay in their comfort zone. I don't play that way in my own life, so it's just a matter of principles that I disagree on so that's why I "don't like it" and stand by it even if works out "ok", I don't want just "ok" in anything lol but ya'll have fun with that.


I just want to thank you for so clearly explaining exactly what we are doing and why. I hadn't realized masai is constructing this team based on 'public opinion' (though sadly not yours) but I'm glad you made that clear. Also your ability to clearly know exactly how this latest bogus draft pick will perform in years to come is amazing. Thanks again for explaining everything so convincingly. Like how do you even know so much? That we actually needed Whitmore and Bufkin not Dick is such a sick insight. And the fact that you know we were actually targeting Cason Wallace but chickened out on trading up when a great deal was on the table is mind blowing. You must have amazing connects to get all this inside info nobody else has. Word! And I don't think I've ever seen anyone point out that the Kawhi trade was a fluke before. Shows what kind of a head you got for basketball. Serious props my man. Keep it up. Love your positivity.


Some of the players PhilBlackson has been high on include: KPJ, Green, Maledon, Moses Brown. In other words, just a ton of guys who are athletic but can't play. Not surprised that he would also be high on Whitmore who is another example of just an athlete.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#146 » by Kingsway_fan » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:31 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Don’t love it, but I like it. Really wanted cason tho. I hope we didn’t miss out on bufkin. Whitmore I won’t be too sad about if he excels because it felt like the whole league didn’t want him. Will sting abit tho


I liked Cason too. His back concerned me.

Dick was always in my top 5 just because... man, I want someone who can actually reliably bury an open 3 pointer.

After watching more highlights, I like the pick more. He has more skills than just a spot up 3 point guy.


Absolutely... got some Pistol Pete in his game... Def Reggie Miller.. we finally draft a shooter....
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#147 » by KingSebastian » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:45 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:Majority of this board will talk themselves into ANYTHING the FO does so not surprised by the ratings.

I'm actually NOT one of the posters that selected "Hated It" -- but I did select I Don't Like It.

Doesn't mean I think Dick is trash and some scrub. His "value" is obvious, he's a shooter/floor spacer. He's basically a 6'8 Duncan Robinson, maybe as he adds more ballhandling that will be Huerter and that's not hate, those guys are "valuable" players to their teams because yes it's just a fact now that everyone needs shooting...and that's what this FO did, drafted for "need" which is more my gripe with the pick - a true not hating the playa lol but the game/FO. They made that decision and I just don't like their vision (or lack thereof) for the team as it seems they're constructed much of it on public opinion, not any real strategy of their own and they're missing golden opportunities for the sake of playing it safe and I can't get with that.

The hoard of apologists will blab about yesteryear and the same slow build up expecting lightening to strike twice because they seen the world's biggest fluke of a trade in Kawhi, now blindly believe there's some grand plan although literally the FO is changing their answers of what they're after by the press conference (Vision 6'9 abandoned, immediately brought in two 7 footers the very next year, we're drafting a Raptors type guy that defend, oh no ooops, we got some shooting bc we don't wanna admit OKC pulled the trigger on a trade we wouldn't do for the actual player we wanted: Cason Wallace). They're just floating whereever the wind takes them and basically now are beholden to mid-players like Fred & Pascal who will produce mid results for the foreseeable future.

What they're doing is literally a giant waste of time, so I won't be tuning much until there's a MAJOR change (period) whether that's the players or the FO. The outcome is just way too predictable over the next 3-4 years IF they do just "run it back" with Gradey & some other minor pieces around the fringes as is very likely the case now -- it will be good REGULAR season record, quick Playoff elimination (rd 1 or 2 - they won't sniff a Conference Finals). They just wanna play it safe and make sure they even make it that far because of course MLSE wants that $, and instead of planning for the future with some short term pain to take more of a gamble on guys like Whitmore or Bufkin to become the 2nd option scorer that is ACTUALLY needed long term (or flipping either of OG or Pascal for players with higher potentials than their own) they continue to squander opportunity for real chance at growth & sacrifice it (yet again) for short term gain just to stay in their comfort zone. I don't play that way in my own life, so it's just a matter of principles that I disagree on so that's why I "don't like it" and stand by it even if works out "ok", I don't want just "ok" in anything lol but ya'll have fun with that.


I just want to thank you for so clearly explaining exactly what we are doing and why. I hadn't realized masai is constructing this team based on 'public opinion' (though sadly not yours) but I'm glad you made that clear. Also your ability to clearly know exactly how this latest bogus draft pick will perform in years to come is amazing. Thanks again for explaining everything so convincingly. Like how do you even know so much? That we actually needed Whitmore and Bufkin not Dick is such a sick insight. And the fact that you know we were actually targeting Cason Wallace but chickened out on trading up when a great deal was on the table is mind blowing. You must have amazing connects to get all this inside info nobody else has. Word! And I don't think I've ever seen anyone point out that the Kawhi trade was a fluke before. Shows what kind of a head you got for basketball. Serious props my man. Keep it up. Love your positivity.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#148 » by wegotthabeet » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:45 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
Yes, we already know who you'd take 7th overall.

Just can't answer a simple question about 13 though.

Next draft you replicate the call I made there. Can't give credit where it's due huh?


everything but answering a very simple question.


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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#149 » by canz55 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Cason is your prototypical Masai pick multiplied by 1000 - I'm actually surprised we didn't try to trade up for him.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#150 » by will » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:24 pm

canz55 wrote:Cason is your prototypical Masai pick multiplied by 1000 - I'm actually surprised we didn't try to trade up for him.


Apparently, OKC made the move knowing that and beat Masai to Cason.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#151 » by canz55 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:26 pm

will wrote:
canz55 wrote:Cason is your prototypical Masai pick multiplied by 1000 - I'm actually surprised we didn't try to trade up for him.


Apparently, OKC made the move knowing that and beat Masai to Cason.
If that's true that means we have something OKC wants. Presti wouldn't pick a player out of spite.
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Post#152 » by Syd-TK3 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:36 pm

Not my preference good pick but I'm definitely gonna be tracking Bufkins career.
Hopefully Gradey can get some sorta self creation going that's the real test beyond just being a top tier role player
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#153 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:39 pm

canz55 wrote:
will wrote:
canz55 wrote:Cason is your prototypical Masai pick multiplied by 1000 - I'm actually surprised we didn't try to trade up for him.


Apparently, OKC made the move knowing that and beat Masai to Cason.
If that's true that means we have something OKC wants. Presti wouldn't pick a player out of spite.


I don't think it's spite. He probably wanted him as well, but since he knew we coveted him too, he traded up.
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Post#154 » by ItsDanger » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:42 pm

canz55 wrote:Cason is your prototypical Masai pick multiplied by 1000 - I'm actually surprised we didn't try to trade up for him.

I don't think Masai has ever traded up, at least with the Raps, that's 10 years. Until it occurs, consider it highly unlikely despite the chatter. Especially considering how often it happens around the league. Its more likely they were just waiting their turn.
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Post#155 » by the_flash__ » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:43 pm

Duffman100 wrote:...
Some sneaky hops
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White :lol: :lol:
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#156 » by Ell Curry » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:54 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:The Raps pick a raw 6'9 guy -- they only take raw 6'9 guys.

The Raps take a shooter -- they only pick for need.


It’s complaining for the sake of complaining. I honestly believe it’s just become a habit for people and it’s hard to break


It really sounded like we had Dick in a higher tier than anyone else available, and when the 8th or 9th guy on your board falls to you at #13 you just take him.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#157 » by Los_29 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:05 pm

I like the pick. To be honest, I was locked in on Cason and thought we were going to go with Bufkin once OKC got Cason. I didn't even realize that Gradey was still on the board. I cringed when I saw Gradey mocked in the top 5 earlier in the year but he's excellent value at 13. The guy is a good basketball player. He will struggle at times defensively but at least he competes hard. And we just watched a playoffs where teams were able to hide liabilities on the defensive end. Gradey will likely never be as bad some of those guys defensively and yet they played significant minutes.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#158 » by JustLucky » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:28 pm

kinda hoping his "bad defense" is just media racism and he can be average at that. obviously this team needs shooting and we only get are talent from the draft. so you have to draft some shooting eventually.

Hes tall for his position with a long wingspan a freshman seems to get alot of steals. dont see why he cant become a plus defender
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Post#159 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:33 pm

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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#160 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:34 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
canz55 wrote:
will wrote:
Apparently, OKC made the move knowing that and beat Masai to Cason.
If that's true that means we have something OKC wants. Presti wouldn't pick a player out of spite.


I don't think it's spite. He probably wanted him as well, but since he knew we coveted him too, he traded up.


There’s a reason the price was so high. If Masai really wanted Cason, we were likely in a bit of a bidding war.

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