Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock

[aj174]

Dave has always been negative, I respect SAS more than him because behind his clown act, SAS once in a while says something where I can agree

Dave Fesuck always says negative things and wants everyone to be traded or fired

Masai has a lifetime deal here, whether you marks like it or not. Yall want a GM who pays FVV 43 mil a year? Go be a Rockets fan

[ItsDanger]

Lifetime deal? LMAO if that's true, no wonder fortunes have turned sour.

[Dude-niagara]

Naw, just some of us believe that the GM who has given us:

A CHAMPIONSHIP
2nd most wins in NBA last decade
4th most playoff wins the last decade
Only 1 sub .500 year the last decade.....the Florida Covid year

....deserves a little rope. But hey, maybe it's because I was a fan when our GM was God awful.

Reminder, the 12 pre-Musai years, we had ONE season better than 42-40. I will take more MU years thank you.

Well if your paying attention, plenty of those wins came from players that Colangelo brought in including JV/DD and Lowry. Yes Lowry who Masai was going to trade for a bag of garbage to the Knicks because he was not his guy. Have made some good moves and some duds

Like trading a first last season for the corpse of Thad Young, or having to give the Nets a 1st and 2nd rebounder to east that bloated contract he gave Carroll. How about screwing the team by trading a first next season with only top 6 protection for Poeltl. Plenty of dumb decisions and had Houston not jumped in with some crazy offer, almost certain Masai is resigning Fred,

He is arrogant and just makes up crap and says things that he never does later. Sounds great for fanboys at the time and then everyone is just waiting for something that never happens.

I THINK MASAI IS THE NEW DOC RIVERS OF EXECUTIVES, ONE TITlE AND LOADS OF TALK LATER

You are do blinded by his mistakes you refuse to see what he HAS done.

But you do you. No one can convince you otherwise. MU is not infallible and no one should ever suggest otherwise. But again, a 'SHIP, top 2 in wins, top 4 in playoff wins. He has EARNED rope.

Dude what has he done since Leonard left, more mistakes and maybe some bunt singles. His biggest error is his emotional attachments to core.

Just glad got in the way for him resigning Fred, from here he will just do nothing and we have not had a meaningful trade in years that made sense. You keep giving him more rope, sooner or later there is no more rope left

[Dude-niagara]

Naw, just some of us believe that the GM who has given us:

A CHAMPIONSHIP
2nd most wins in NBA last decade
4th most playoff wins the last decade
Only 1 sub .500 year the last decade.....the Florida Covid year

....deserves a little rope. But hey, maybe it's because I was a fan when our GM was God awful.

Reminder, the 12 pre-Musai years, we had ONE season better than 42-40. I will take more MU years thank you.

Well if your paying attention, plenty of those wins came from players that Colangelo brought in including JV/DD and Lowry. Yes Lowry who Masai was going to trade for a bag of garbage to the Knicks because he was not his guy. Have made some good moves and some duds

Like trading a first last season for the corpse of Thad Young, or having to give the Nets a 1st and 2nd rebounder to east that bloated contract he gave Carroll. How about screwing the team by trading a first next season with only top 6 protection for Poeltl. Plenty of dumb decisions and had Houston not jumped in with some crazy offer, almost certain Masai is resigning Fred,

He is arrogant and just makes up crap and says things that he never does later. Sounds great for fanboys at the time and then everyone is just waiting for something that never happens.

I THINK MASAI IS THE NEW DOC RIVERS OF EXECUTIVES, ONE TITlE AND LOADS OF TALK LATER

You are do blinded by his mistakes you refuse to see what he HAS done.

But you do you. No one can convince you otherwise. MU is not infallible and no one should ever suggest otherwise. But again, a 'SHIP, top 2 in wins, top 4 in playoff wins. He has EARNED rope.

Are you going to tell everyone on this site that this is not a treadmill ceiling team as currently constructed? If yes then he lied about never wanting to be in the middle, words from his own mouth not mine.

The fact is this team has been in the middle for the past 3 seasons and this one coming up will be #4. Either make a trade to win now or trade Siakam now. Were not talking about a player in Siakam that is just turning 25-26, he will be turning 30 this season. His window is next 2 seasons maybe 3. After that guys playing in the post begin to slow down after hitting 31-32 years old

[ATLTimekeeper]

I finally read the article and it's not bad. There's no "Masai is on the clock" in the entire thing. The mistake in his analysis is thinking the Raptors could get replaceable value for Gasol, Ibaka, Danny Green and Kawhi. It would have been a significant loss either way. Their player value/leadership value would have always been difficult to replace in trade. Same deal with Fred.

[islandboy53]

Lifetime deal? LMAO if that's true, no wonder fortunes have turned sour.

There’s no evidence that things have turned sour, not even in your case. You’ve always been that way. Which begs the question, why so glum, chum?

[islandboy53]

Well if your paying attention, plenty of those wins came from players that Colangelo brought in including JV/DD and Lowry. Yes Lowry who Masai was going to trade for a bag of garbage to the Knicks because he was not his guy. Have made some good moves and some duds

Like trading a first last season for the corpse of Thad Young, or having to give the Nets a 1st and 2nd rebounder to east that bloated contract he gave Carroll. How about screwing the team by trading a first next season with only top 6 protection for Poeltl. Plenty of dumb decisions and had Houston not jumped in with some crazy offer, almost certain Masai is resigning Fred,

He is arrogant and just makes up crap and says things that he never does later. Sounds great for fanboys at the time and then everyone is just waiting for something that never happens.

I THINK MASAI IS THE NEW DOC RIVERS OF EXECUTIVES, ONE TITlE AND LOADS OF TALK LATER

You are do blinded by his mistakes you refuse to see what he HAS done.

But you do you. No one can convince you otherwise. MU is not infallible and no one should ever suggest otherwise. But again, a 'SHIP, top 2 in wins, top 4 in playoff wins. He has EARNED rope.

Are you going to tell everyone on this site that this is not a treadmill ceiling team as currently constructed? If yes then he lied about never wanting to be in the middle, words from his own mouth not mine.

The fact is this team has been in the middle for the past 3 seasons and this one coming up will be #4. Either make a trade to win now or trade Siakam now. Were not talking about a player in Siakam that is just turning 25-26, he will be turning 30 this season. His window is next 2 seasons maybe 3. After that guys playing in the post begin to slow down after hitting 31-32 years old

As has been noted above, this team has 1, one, losing season in the last 10. The last 2 seasons showed us that the roster with VanVleet and Siakam as the main pieces, with Nurse at the helm, was just not good enough. Nurse and VanVleet are gone, and Siakam may or may not stay. The off-season is still young and, once Lillard and Harden move, allowing the market to open up, we’ll see what other moves are made to improve the roster. Even if nothing changes, this group, with Darko at the helm, has potential to get to the playoffs, in my opinion. You clearly feel differently, but the next few months will be interesting.
With all of that said, I don’t know why you and a number of other posters choose to make everything personal. Masai didn’t lie about his desire to win. It’s simply a reality that you can’t always achieve everything you aspire to. You have to accept that, in the vast majority of cases, it takes time to build a champion. The Raptors are firmly on that path.

[Tripod]

Well if your paying attention, plenty of those wins came from players that Colangelo brought in including JV/DD and Lowry. Yes Lowry who Masai was going to trade for a bag of garbage to the Knicks because he was not his guy. Have made some good moves and some duds

Like trading a first last season for the corpse of Thad Young, or having to give the Nets a 1st and 2nd rebounder to east that bloated contract he gave Carroll. How about screwing the team by trading a first next season with only top 6 protection for Poeltl. Plenty of dumb decisions and had Houston not jumped in with some crazy offer, almost certain Masai is resigning Fred,

He is arrogant and just makes up crap and says things that he never does later. Sounds great for fanboys at the time and then everyone is just waiting for something that never happens.

I THINK MASAI IS THE NEW DOC RIVERS OF EXECUTIVES, ONE TITlE AND LOADS OF TALK LATER

You are do blinded by his mistakes you refuse to see what he HAS done.

But you do you. No one can convince you otherwise. MU is not infallible and no one should ever suggest otherwise. But again, a 'SHIP, top 2 in wins, top 4 in playoff wins. He has EARNED rope.

Dude what has he done since Leonard left, more mistakes and maybe some bunt singles. His biggest error is his emotional attachments to core.

Just glad got in the way for him resigning Fred, from here he will just do nothing and we have not had a meaningful trade in years that made sense. You keep giving him more rope, sooner or later there is no more rope left

The Raps were 53-19 in 2020 when covid hit. 2nd best record in basketball. WITHOUT KAWHI.

Guess Musai should have known that Covid was going to suspend the year. Then should have known the Raps would have to play the following year in Florida resulting in no home games all season.

Almost as if context matters.

And even as awful as you feel the last 2 years have been, the Raps are 11th in wins in a 30 team league....so top third. It's almost as if winning a Championship and your best player, leads to a few steps back. Huh, who would have guessed.

Sorry he isn't perfect or as good as you would be.

[Reeko]

I finally read the article and it's not bad. There's no "Masai is on the clock" in the entire thing. The mistake in his analysis is thinking the Raptors could get replaceable value for Gasol, Ibaka, Danny Green and Kawhi. It would have been a significant loss either way. Their player value/leadership value would have always been difficult to replace in trade. Same deal with Fred.

Thank you, I also read the article a couple of days ago. The thread title totally mischaracterizes what the article is about. What he’s saying is that they didn’t get any value from these guys, in some cases I think he’s being unfair/unreasonable but in others… I think some criticism may be warranted.

[Ackshun]

Good listen on the Locked On podcast last week regarding the culture.

Honestly just seems like it was a toxic work environment for everyone last year. That falls on FO and coaching, the “adults in the room”.

I’ll never understand the last two years of raptors basketball. I don’t get it. And then the culture is a mess yet we tried to bring Fred back.



https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/locked-on-raptors-daily-podcast-on-the-toronto-raptors/id1171754319?i=1000619385715

[Fairview4Life]

Good listen on the Locked On podcast last week regarding the culture.

Honestly just seems like it was a toxic work environment for everyone last year. That falls on FO and coaching, the “adults in the room”.

I’ll never understand the last two years of raptors basketball. I don’t get it. And then the culture is a mess yet we tried to bring Fred back.



https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/locked-on-raptors-daily-podcast-on-the-toronto-raptors/id1171754319?i=1000619385715

...2 years ago when Scottie was the ROY and we won 48 games after the Tampa tank year? Christ, I remember when that was the franchise high in wins and we were all overjoyed lol.

[Kingsway_fan]

Masai should be fired if he does a Babcock 2.0 trade for Pascal...

[HiJiNX]

I finally read the article and it's not bad. There's no "Masai is on the clock" in the entire thing. The mistake in his analysis is thinking the Raptors could get replaceable value for Gasol, Ibaka, Danny Green and Kawhi. It would have been a significant loss either way. Their player value/leadership value would have always been difficult to replace in trade. Same deal with Fred.

THANK YOU!

If we “got something back” for those guys what we did get back wouldn’t be of much use or substance anyway. It would have been better than nothing most likely but nothing that would have shifted the needle. Scrubs and second round picks at best.

[TheGeneral99]

I finally read the article and it's not bad. There's no "Masai is on the clock" in the entire thing. The mistake in his analysis is thinking the Raptors could get replaceable value for Gasol, Ibaka, Danny Green and Kawhi. It would have been a significant loss either way. Their player value/leadership value would have always been difficult to replace in trade. Same deal with Fred.

Yes exactly.

It's just absurd for people to claim that it's Masai's fault we got no value back for Kawhi, Green, Ibaka and Gasol.

Does Feschuk expect Masai to trade Kawhi and Green in the middle of our championship season? Kawhi was the 1st player in NBA history not to return to a championship team. He's an anomaly, he wanted only to go to LA and we took a risk and it paid off. Meanwhile, Danny Green got overpaid because of our championship run and we couldn't afford him. With Green taking a bit of a backup role in the playoffs and Fred ascending it didn't make sense to try to keep Green.

Does Feschuk also want us to trade Gasol and Ibaka in the middle of a season were we had the 2nd seed and were on pace for 60 wins before COVID? The team that had the longest winning streak in the league that year and were playing out of their minds despite injuries to key players? Thank God we didn't overpay Gasol and Ibaka that offseason because as soon as they left they sucked. Ibaka suffered a bad back injury in 2020 that required surgery and hasn't been a productive player since. Gasol was basically unplayable once he was in LA and it was last year in the NBA.

To me, this is absolute clown journalism with no substance, no context or informative opinion grounded in facts.

[Ramako]

I have no time for Dave Feschuk's opinion about the Raptors. I remember him consistently writing nothing but negative articles about the franchise as far back as ~20 years ago. At first I just thought he was generally dour, but I've seen him write plenty of positive articles about perennially terrible Leafs. He's got some kind of grudge against the Raptors.

[kalel123]

Masai should be fired if he does a Babcock 2.0 trade for Pascal...

You should be banned for even mentioning the two in the same breath. And I've hated most of the moves they've made from the trade deadline and onwards. At the same time, most of the moves before then were at minimum agreeable IMO even though the recent mistakes have overshadowed everything.

[KL78192020]

Masai should be fired if he does a Babcock 2.0 trade for Pascal...

You should be banned for even mentioning the two in the same breath. And I've hated most of the moves they've made from the trade deadline and onwards. At the same time, most of the moves before then were at minimum agreeable IMO even though the recent mistakes have overshadowed everything.

He's more akin to go the way of Danny Ainge or Joe Dumars after winning a championship. Although Ainge is still doing a solid job in Utah. But I guess he wore out his welcome in Boston.

[carlosey]

This guy lives to create negativity around the raptors for some reason...its almost as if he doesnt want them around.

[Boardbreaker]

I have no time for Dave Feschuk's opinion about the Raptors. I remember him consistently writing nothing but negative articles about the franchise as far back as ~20 years ago. At first I just thought he was generally dour, but I've seen him write plenty of positive articles about perennially terrible Leafs. He's got some kind of grudge against the Raptors.

Goes back to puckheads giving bad basketball takes. One negative of winning the championship was the influx of leafs/hockey fans that jumped on the raps bandwagon to add their terrible takes.

[Dude-niagara]

You are do blinded by his mistakes you refuse to see what he HAS done.

But you do you. No one can convince you otherwise. MU is not infallible and no one should ever suggest otherwise. But again, a 'SHIP, top 2 in wins, top 4 in playoff wins. He has EARNED rope.

Dude what has he done since Leonard left, more mistakes and maybe some bunt singles. His biggest error is his emotional attachments to core.

Just glad got in the way for him resigning Fred, from here he will just do nothing and we have not had a meaningful trade in years that made sense. You keep giving him more rope, sooner or later there is no more rope left

The Raps were 53-19 in 2020 when covid hit. 2nd best record in basketball. WITHOUT KAWHI.

Guess Musai should have known that Covid was going to suspend the year. Then should have known the Raps would have to play the following year in Florida resulting in no home games all season.

Almost as if context matters.

And even as awful as you feel the last 2 years have been, the Raps are 11th in wins in a 30 team league....so top third. It's almost as if winning a Championship and your best player, leads to a few steps back. Huh, who would have guessed.

Sorry he isn't perfect or as good as you would be.

They had a losing record against playoff teams that year, but whatever.