2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[Mark_83]

Yes! Back in the draft! Jojo Tugler is a diamond in the rough. Doesn't fit an immediate need, but the kid is a beast. Reminds me a little of OG at Indiana. Trentyn Flowers, Wooga Poplar (great match with IQ), Trevon Brazile and Otega Oweh are others I'm high on

As funny as it would be to see a Dick-Tugler combo I doubt he's going to be a 1AD. He's interesting but he's also a tweener who needs to figure out what role he has at the next level.

Wooga is one of my top picks at our spot but I'm starting to doubt he makes it to the 2nd given his athleticism, production, and efficiency.

If we miss on him though, I'd love to add/buy a later pick to take (or simply sign as a UDFA) Matthew Murrell. He's an older prospect (22 years old), but he's also an elite-level athlete who is finally figuring out how to use his tools. Reminds me of a cross between Bruce Brown and Norman Powell.

Matthew Murrell, SG, Ole Miss
6'4" 200lbs (6'8.")
16.9pts 4.3reb 3.2ast 2.3stl
47.9%fg 40.8%3fg 70.8%ft

https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2023/5/15/23724328/ole-miss-guard-matthew-murrell-tests-off-the-charts-at-g-league-combine

Murrell has had his name entered into the NBA Draft while maintaining his eligibility at Ole Miss. After seeing his combine numbers, you will see why he is a legitimate NBA prospect all while being criminally misused by the prior coaching staff.

He officially measures at 6’2.25” and 201 pounds. He had a 8’2.5” standing reach and a 6’8” wingspan. His wingspan was tied for fourth widest amongst shooting guards at the event.

His 4.2% body fat is super-freaky and was only bested by Jazian Gortman, who was at 3.6%. Finally, in regards to measurements, the NBA pays attention to hand size. Murrell measured at 8.25” in length and 8.5” in width.

Murrell reminds you of Anthony Richardson, the QB from Florida that was taken by the Indianapolis Colts due to his insane combine results. Matt finished with the third fastest 3⁄4 court sprint time at 3.16 seconds, trailing only Alex Fudge from Florida and Tyrin Lawrence of Vanderbilt.

The only player at the combine with a max vertical jump over 40 inches?

Matthew Murrell at 41.5”.

That was 2.5” higher than second place finisher Markquis Nowell of Kansas State. He also finished the best standing vertical (33.5”), edging out Leaky Black of UNC by a half inch.

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[Mark_83]

I wish we had a shot at Kel’el Ware or Kyle Filipowski, but more so Ware. Our biggest need is going to be a C like him. He’d fit like a glove after the trade.

I like Ware's game but not so much him if that makes sense. I agree that the tools and playing style (stretch 4/5 with size and length to rim run and block shots) are exactly what we need next to Scottie, but I question his ability to reach his full potential (something like a taller Jaren Jackson). He seems soft and lacks aggressiveness. He should be dominating college ball with his skillset but he's inconsistent and can disappear too often during games instead of imposing his will. I see more of a Christian Wood type maybe a poor man's LaMarcus Aldridge on the high end outcome, but it's difficult to teach will and intensity. If you put KG's brain in his body he would be a superstar.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I wish we had a shot at Kel’el Ware or Kyle Filipowski, but more so Ware. Our biggest need is going to be a C like him. He’d fit like a glove after the trade.

I like Ware's game but not so much him if that makes sense. I agree that the tools and playing style (stretch 4/5 with size and length to rim run and block shots) are exactly what we need next to Scottie, but I question his ability to reach his full potential (something like a taller Jaren Jackson). He seems soft and lacks aggressiveness. He should be dominating college ball with his skillset but he's inconsistent and can disappear too often during games instead of imposing his will. I see more of a Christian Wood type maybe a poor man's LaMarcus Aldridge on the high end outcome, but it's difficult to teach will and intensity. If you put KG's brain in his body he would be a superstar.

I see where you’re coming from. Potential is a crazy thing. Although, I’m starting to lean more towards players who are actually proving they can produce. Ware has just been on my radar for a couple of years now so I’m excited to see him improving.

[grant101]

Yes! Back in the draft! Jojo Tugler is a diamond in the rough. Doesn't fit an immediate need, but the kid is a beast. Reminds me a little of OG at Indiana. Trentyn Flowers, Wooga Poplar (great match with IQ), Trevon Brazile and Otega Oweh are others I'm high on

As funny as it would be to see a Dick-Tugler combo I doubt he's going to be a 1AD. He's interesting but he's also a tweener who needs to figure out what role he has at the next level.

Wooga is one of my top picks at our spot but I'm starting to doubt he makes it to the 2nd given his athleticism, production, and efficiency.

If we miss on him though, I'd love to add/buy a later pick to take (or simply sign as a UDFA) Matthew Murrell. He's an older prospect (22 years old), but he's also an elite-level athlete who is finally figuring out how to use his tools. Reminds me of a cross between Bruce Brown and Norman Powell.

Matthew Murrell, SG, Ole Miss
6'4" 200lbs (6'8.")
16.9pts 4.3reb 3.2ast 2.3stl
47.9%fg 40.8%3fg 70.8%ft

https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2023/5/15/23724328/ole-miss-guard-matthew-murrell-tests-off-the-charts-at-g-league-combine

Murrell has had his name entered into the NBA Draft while maintaining his eligibility at Ole Miss. After seeing his combine numbers, you will see why he is a legitimate NBA prospect all while being criminally misused by the prior coaching staff.

He officially measures at 6’2.25” and 201 pounds. He had a 8’2.5” standing reach and a 6’8” wingspan. His wingspan was tied for fourth widest amongst shooting guards at the event.

His 4.2% body fat is super-freaky and was only bested by Jazian Gortman, who was at 3.6%. Finally, in regards to measurements, the NBA pays attention to hand size. Murrell measured at 8.25” in length and 8.5” in width.

Murrell reminds you of Anthony Richardson, the QB from Florida that was taken by the Indianapolis Colts due to his insane combine results. Matt finished with the third fastest 3⁄4 court sprint time at 3.16 seconds, trailing only Alex Fudge from Florida and Tyrin Lawrence of Vanderbilt.

The only player at the combine with a max vertical jump over 40 inches?

Matthew Murrell at 41.5”.

That was 2.5” higher than second place finisher Markquis Nowell of Kansas State. He also finished the best standing vertical (33.5”), edging out Leaky Black of UNC by a half inch.

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Lol! I completely missed the potential for Tugler-Dick puns. I get your points about Tugler being a little raw and between positions, but I think he just has 'IT' on defence and the athletecism is special. He plays like a man among boys. We'll see if he can carve out a role this year. Wouldn't be surprised it he stays another year, as you said. If not, I would be very tempted to take a bet on him.

As for Murrell, I love how he can get down hill, and guys with his build have found success in the league. I worry about the age thing bit (I wish he were dominating more as a senior), but if his efficiency (and 3pt shooting in particular) holds up, he should definitely be in the mix at 31. We need more guards. Also, the steal rate is also wild. Looks like a bit of an outlier, but if this is his new normal, that's very enticing!

[WuTang_CMB]

Likely going to target a wing or big. Would have been nice if koloko made a comeback

[Bruin]

I like Peja’s son

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[Mark_83]

Yes! Back in the draft! Jojo Tugler is a diamond in the rough. Doesn't fit an immediate need, but the kid is a beast. Reminds me a little of OG at Indiana. Trentyn Flowers, Wooga Poplar (great match with IQ), Trevon Brazile and Otega Oweh are others I'm high on

As funny as it would be to see a Dick-Tugler combo I doubt he's going to be a 1AD. He's interesting but he's also a tweener who needs to figure out what role he has at the next level.

Wooga is one of my top picks at our spot but I'm starting to doubt he makes it to the 2nd given his athleticism, production, and efficiency.

If we miss on him though, I'd love to add/buy a later pick to take (or simply sign as a UDFA) Matthew Murrell. He's an older prospect (22 years old), but he's also an elite-level athlete who is finally figuring out how to use his tools. Reminds me of a cross between Bruce Brown and Norman Powell.

Matthew Murrell, SG, Ole Miss
6'4" 200lbs (6'8.")
16.9pts 4.3reb 3.2ast 2.3stl
47.9%fg 40.8%3fg 70.8%ft

https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2023/5/15/23724328/ole-miss-guard-matthew-murrell-tests-off-the-charts-at-g-league-combine

Murrell has had his name entered into the NBA Draft while maintaining his eligibility at Ole Miss. After seeing his combine numbers, you will see why he is a legitimate NBA prospect all while being criminally misused by the prior coaching staff.

He officially measures at 6’2.25” and 201 pounds. He had a 8’2.5” standing reach and a 6’8” wingspan. His wingspan was tied for fourth widest amongst shooting guards at the event.

His 4.2% body fat is super-freaky and was only bested by Jazian Gortman, who was at 3.6%. Finally, in regards to measurements, the NBA pays attention to hand size. Murrell measured at 8.25” in length and 8.5” in width.

Murrell reminds you of Anthony Richardson, the QB from Florida that was taken by the Indianapolis Colts due to his insane combine results. Matt finished with the third fastest 3⁄4 court sprint time at 3.16 seconds, trailing only Alex Fudge from Florida and Tyrin Lawrence of Vanderbilt.

The only player at the combine with a max vertical jump over 40 inches?

Matthew Murrell at 41.5”.

That was 2.5” higher than second place finisher Markquis Nowell of Kansas State. He also finished the best standing vertical (33.5”), edging out Leaky Black of UNC by a half inch.

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Lol! I completely missed the potential for Tugler-Dick puns. I get your points about Tugler being a little raw and between positions, but I think he just has 'IT' on defence and the athletecism is special. He plays like a man among boys. We'll see if he can carve out a role this year. Wouldn't be surprised it he stays another year, as you said. If not, I would be very tempted to take a bet on him.

As for Murrell, I love how he can get down hill, and guys with his build have found success in the league. I worry about the age thing bit (I wish he were dominating more as a senior), but if his efficiency (and 3pt shooting in particular) holds up, he should definitely be in the mix at 31. We need more guards. Also, the steal rate is also wild. Looks like a bit of an outlier, but if this is his new normal, that's very enticing!

Apparently, Tugler has a 7'6 wingspan, which is crazy for a 6'7 guy! It could be hyperbole though as back in the day they said the same thing about Anunoby, which we now know was not the case (his wingspan was actually 7'2.5").

Not sure I would take Murrell at 31. That might be a bit too rich for my blood. I'd probably take Poplar there right now based on current draft boards. Murrell probably goes late second or undrafted (if he tells those teams not to pick him like Champagnie did so he can choose his location).

I'm trying to figure out what kind of SG archetype would fit best with Quickley and Scottie who are going to have the ball a lot. Probably a standard 3 + D type who scores off movement like prime Danny Green? I'm not sure.

[grant101]

As funny as it would be to see a Dick-Tugler combo I doubt he's going to be a 1AD. He's interesting but he's also a tweener who needs to figure out what role he has at the next level.

Wooga is one of my top picks at our spot but I'm starting to doubt he makes it to the 2nd given his athleticism, production, and efficiency.

If we miss on him though, I'd love to add/buy a later pick to take (or simply sign as a UDFA) Matthew Murrell. He's an older prospect (22 years old), but he's also an elite-level athlete who is finally figuring out how to use his tools. Reminds me of a cross between Bruce Brown and Norman Powell.

Matthew Murrell, SG, Ole Miss
6'4" 200lbs (6'8.")
16.9pts 4.3reb 3.2ast 2.3stl
47.9%fg 40.8%3fg 70.8%ft

https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2023/5/15/23724328/ole-miss-guard-matthew-murrell-tests-off-the-charts-at-g-league-combine

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Lol! I completely missed the potential for Tugler-Dick puns. I get your points about Tugler being a little raw and between positions, but I think he just has 'IT' on defence and the athletecism is special. He plays like a man among boys. We'll see if he can carve out a role this year. Wouldn't be surprised it he stays another year, as you said. If not, I would be very tempted to take a bet on him.

As for Murrell, I love how he can get down hill, and guys with his build have found success in the league. I worry about the age thing bit (I wish he were dominating more as a senior), but if his efficiency (and 3pt shooting in particular) holds up, he should definitely be in the mix at 31. We need more guards. Also, the steal rate is also wild. Looks like a bit of an outlier, but if this is his new normal, that's very enticing!

Apparently, Tugler has a 7'6 wingspan, which is crazy for a 6'7 guy! It could be hyperbole though as back in the day they said the same thing about Anunoby, which we now know was not the case (his wingspan was actually 7'2.5").

Not sure I would take Murrell at 31. That might be a bit too rich for my blood. I'd probably take Poplar there right now based on current draft boards. Murrell probably goes late second or undrafted (if he tells those teams not to pick him like Champagnie did so he can choose his location).

I'm trying to figure out what kind of SG archetype would fit best with Quickley and Scottie who are going to have the ball a lot. Probably a standard 3 + D type who scores off movement like prime Danny Green? I'm not sure.

I believe the 7'6 wingspan claims. Jojo looks like caboclo out there (but he actually uses it to his advantage).

I've also been thinking about the SG prototype we should be looking for. I think it depends on what IQ shows as a playmaker for others (i.e. should we be looking for someone with playmaking chops).

That said, in terms of skillset prioritization, I'd go: 1) shooting of the catch 2) ability to create for himself and pressure the rim, 3) off the dribble shooting 4) defence, and 5) passing/playmaking for others. Also, if IQ is going to play point, I'd really like someone with a little size. Not sure if we find all that in the second round...but we can try! Lol

[Bruin]

This kid is an elite shooter 41.5% on 4.6 attempts per game and he has range. He’d be a lotto pick if he wasn’t just 6’. Could be a solid guard to bring off the bench and hit shots

[mihaic]

Any good range shooter with size, from European leagues?

[aminiaturebuddha]

Likely going to target a wing or big. Would have been nice if koloko made a comeback

Have there been any more updates (or dare I say it - rumours)? Is his career over, or is there a chance he'll be back playing again later this season or next year?

[WuTang_CMB]

Likely going to target a wing or big. Would have been nice if koloko made a comeback

Have there been any more updates (or dare I say it - rumours)? Is his career over, or is there a chance he'll be back playing again later this season or next year?

Zero

[aminiaturebuddha]

Likely going to target a wing or big. Would have been nice if koloko made a comeback

Have there been any more updates (or dare I say it - rumours)? Is his career over, or is there a chance he'll be back playing again later this season or next year?

Zero

Ugh. Yeah, if he's done the Raps may look for another big, especially as Boucher will be on the last year of his contract next year. I'd love for Koloko to come back and make good on some of the promise he showed though, so the Raps could look for another guard or wing in the draft. After all Schroder will also be on the last year of his contract, and we'll need a backup to Quickley for the future.

[Mark_83]

What are people's thoughts on Aaron Bradshaw? He was a Five Star recruit whose Kentucky debut was delayed by a foot injury, which has resulted in him currently falling to the back half of the first round.

He's not really my favorite prospect at our pick but if you're looking for a center who can rim run, block shots, and stretch the floor he's a guy who projects to be able to do those things at some capacity. I think he'll be a useful and solid NBA player, but I wish he was either longer (only 7'4 wingspan for a 7-footer), more athletic/explosive, or more skilled to set him apart. My comp on him right now is a cross between Naz Reid and Dewayne Dedmon.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

What are people's thoughts on Aaron Bradshaw? He was a Five Star recruit whose Kentucky debut was delayed by a foot injury, which has resulted in him currently falling to the back half of the first round.

He's not really my favorite prospect at our pick but if you're looking for a center who can rim run, block shots, and stretch the floor he's a guy who projects to be able to do those things at some capacity. I think he'll be a useful and solid NBA player, but I wish he was either longer (only 7'4 wingspan for a 7-footer), more athletic/explosive, or more skilled to set him apart. My comp on him right now is a cross between Naz Reid and Dewayne Dedmon.

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I prefer Ivisic

[Mark_83]

What are people's thoughts on Aaron Bradshaw? He was a Five Star recruit whose Kentucky debut was delayed by a foot injury, which has resulted in him currently falling to the back half of the first round.

He's not really my favorite prospect at our pick but if you're looking for a center who can rim run, block shots, and stretch the floor he's a guy who projects to be able to do those things at some capacity. I think he'll be a useful and solid NBA player, but I wish he was either longer (only 7'4 wingspan for a 7-footer), more athletic/explosive, or more skilled to set him apart. My comp on him right now is a cross between Naz Reid and Dewayne Dedmon.

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I prefer Ivisic

I think I'm there with you too actually. I don't usually like lanky euro big men who play on the perimeter (I wasn't a fan of Poku, for example, when everyone wanted him), call it Post-Bargnani syndrome. But at pick 31 there's minimal risk, and Ivisic might just have the highest upside at that point. He's a physical freak and just looks different. There's an aggressiveness and assertiveness to his game that I like to see in my big men. He has nice form on his shot but he also attacks the rim with vigor. He hunts down blocks on defense and can move his feet. If he has any sort of basketball IQ he could really be something. I low-key hope he doesn't get cleared to play in Kentucky and raise his stock.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

What are people's thoughts on Aaron Bradshaw? He was a Five Star recruit whose Kentucky debut was delayed by a foot injury, which has resulted in him currently falling to the back half of the first round.

He's not really my favorite prospect at our pick but if you're looking for a center who can rim run, block shots, and stretch the floor he's a guy who projects to be able to do those things at some capacity. I think he'll be a useful and solid NBA player, but I wish he was either longer (only 7'4 wingspan for a 7-footer), more athletic/explosive, or more skilled to set him apart. My comp on him right now is a cross between Naz Reid and Dewayne Dedmon.

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I prefer Ivisic

I think I'm there with you too actually. I don't usually like lanky euro big men who play on the perimeter (I wasn't a fan of Poku, for example, when everyone wanted him), call it Post-Bargnani syndrome. But at pick 31 there's minimal risk, and Ivisic might just have the highest upside at that point. He's a physical freak and just looks different. There's an aggressiveness and assertiveness to his game that I like to see in my big men. He has nice form on his shot but he also attacks the rim with vigor. He hunts down blocks on defense and can move his feet. If he has any sort of basketball IQ he could really be something. I low-key hope he doesn't get cleared to play in Kentucky and raise his stock.

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If he gets cleared he’s a pipe dream. He is Porzingis like. I love that he’s so tall and stretches the floor, plus blocks shots. If he even gets close to a Myles Turner or Porzingis style player in the NBA he is literally PERFECT for us.

[GP2]

Pretty much got the 31st pick in the trade right? That's not insignificant.

[OakleyDokely]

Pretty much got the 31st pick in the trade right? That's not insignificant.

It's basically a late first given how bad the Pistons are. Should be able to get a decent prospect from there. Usually up to 35-40, there are decent players to be had.

Not that it happens with the Raps, but it's also easier to move up now that they're in the draft for sure.

[Shakril]

I am only interested which superstar will be picked at 7th from the Spurs. I was told, this will be a Franchise changing Player if we just had kept the Pick.